nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 I didn't want Leach at 37, but didn't want Carlson or Canning either. I really don't like saving money for 4th round talent that falls to the 10th or whatever the plan is. I don't get excited about 4th round talent. There are still a lot of prep pitchers I like though. And by "like" I mean they have nice bios and profile pics; I got little to go on personally Mike Sixel, gunnarthor and Hosken Bombo Disco 3
Willihammer Provisional Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Well, I'm glad you're happy b/c you probably know more than I do. But why pass on Carlson or Canning? Or Enlow? I mean, Leach seems like a third rounder (although I like that he's Canadian and only 17) so why not take him in the 3rd round and use our picks for higher guys? We'll see how this plays out tomorrow but I'm concerned.Carlson would have been nice but it would have cost pretty much all their savings from the Lewis pick. Canning's got health issues. Dunno about Enlon. I mean they didn't take the 500th ranked prospect, they took the 101st. And obviously its not going to be the same board anyways. They have the spending power going into day two to do some things. I think they're going for and getting good value to stay flexible and sign everyone they draft, which should be priority one IMO. gunnarthor 1
sftwinsfan Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 I guess that something big the Twins were planning was they saved so much money on their top 3 picks the executive lounge at Target Field will now feature a free nacho bar. jud6312, twins_89 and Hosken Bombo Disco 3
Comrade Bork Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Is Falvine going to be far more aggressive with pushing pitchers through the minors then? Hosken Bombo Disco 1
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Any single pick is ok, but combined, this looks a lot like a draft from the 2010 through 2015 years. Vanimal46 and jud6312 2
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 That is a tough quote to reconcile, I don't think there's any way around it.I think the only way to reconcile is that they put the cart before the horse and the guys they hoped would be there weren't - just like some here cautioned with the save $ strategy. jud6312, Einstein1 and Vanimal46 3
drivlikejehu Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Any single pick is ok, but combined, this looks a lot like a draft from the 2010 through 2015 years. The Twins drafts in those years basically aligned with third-party rankings.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Is Falvine going to be far more aggressive with pushing pitchers through the minors then? What pitchers? They need to draft a few dozen still. jud6312 and Mike Sixel 2
Guest Guests Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Landon Leach 6'4 205Is Leach going to be expensive? He's making noises about his commitment to U Texas.
Darius Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Since im just an unenlightened rube that doesn't know "how the draft works," can a higher being enlighten me as to what happens next? Surely, a huge blockbuster with all of the savings. Vanimal46 and Einstein1 2
drivlikejehu Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 I think the only way to reconcile is that they put the cart before the horse and the guys they hoped would be there weren't - just like some here cautioned with the save $ strategy. But none of the picks ahead of them were surprising at all, and Carlson actually fell. They presumably already knew what his bonus demands were. I don't see what scenario was torpedoed here . . . there are still plenty of guys they can go over-slot on, but Radcliff's quote is just bizarre given what happened.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Probably been said somewhere, but the Twins also drafted Rooker in last years draft. 38th round. Twins scouts say he fills out a nice pair of jeans? edit: he did have a monster season Edited June 13, 2017 by Hosken Bombo Disco Mike Sixel 1
Brian Provisional Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Guys I figured it out. Twins have decided to underslot the entire draft and use the remaining funds on their last pick for Tom Pohlad, coincidentally Carl Pohlad's grandson. It will make a great down payment on his new $7.2M Lake Minnetonka home Edited June 13, 2017 by Brian gunnarthor, jud6312, Vanimal46 and 3 others 6
Willihammer Provisional Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 I think the only way to reconcile is that they put the cart before the horse and the guys they hoped would be there weren't - just like some here cautioned with the save $ strategy.I think in retrospect the "boom" meant Rooker's bat. Which produced a 1.318 OPS in the SEC. He's a good bet to win the Golden Spikes award.
jud6312 Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Can't wait to watch them dip to the high 180s to get that 3rd round pick tomorrow. Mike Sixel and Vanimal46 2
Einstein1 Provisional Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 I was led to believe they were picking Lance McCullers at 35-37. sftwinsfan, bluechipper, Twins33 and 7 others 10
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Carlson would have been nice but it would have cost pretty much all their savings from the Lewis pick. Canning's got health issues. Dunno about Enlon. I mean they didn't take the 500th ranked prospect, they took the 101st. And obviously its not going to be the same board anyways. They have the spending power going into day two to do some things. I think they're going for and getting good value to stay flexible and sign everyone they draft, which should be priority one IMO.Why is that bad that Carlson would cost their whole savings? Isn't that kind of the point of saving the money in the first place? To get another top 15 pick? Saving money to get a few better spots in the middle rounds is virtually pointless, IMO. Those guys are all super long shots to ever play a single game in MLB. The 101st prospect at 37 is quite a huge reach, especially with the 15th ranked still on the board. The great thing about sports is we always eventually get a result. Eventually we'll see how these picks work out. Taildragger8791, beckmt, sftwinsfan and 5 others 8
Willihammer Provisional Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Carlson goes to the M's at 55! Bob Sacamento 1
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 I think in retrospect the "boom" meant Rooker's bat. Which produced a 1.318 OPS in the SEC. He's a good bet to win the Golden Spikes award.He was #50 on MLB pipeline and will probably sign underslot. They didn't need to save money at 1 to get Rooker.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Is Falvine going to be far more aggressive with pushing pitchers through the minors then? Certainly not so fast this year. They have promoted no one.
Einstein1 Provisional Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Carlson goes to the M's at 55!They must have gone under slot in round 1. Mike Sixel, sftwinsfan, jud6312 and 1 other 4
twinsfanstreif Provisional Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 dang, there goes Carlson.....my dreams are now dead Yeahright 1
Hrbowski Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 They must have gone under slot in round 1. Nope. Evan White was expected to go in the 15-20 range. Cornholio 1
jud6312 Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 I was hoping to look at MLB.com tonight and see "Twins draft elite baseball player." Instead, "Twins pick elite athlete." Who knew a screening of Cars 3 would be the highlight of my night? KirbyDome89, Mike Sixel, Danchat and 2 others 5
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 So, they drafted three guys ahead of their consensus rankings. Using the same scouts that drafted Stewart and Jay. To save money for what, exactly? jud6312, Einstein1, adorduan and 3 others 6
Willihammer Provisional Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Why is that bad that Carlson would cost their whole savings? Isn't that kind of the point of saving the money in the first place? To get another top 15 pick?Saving money to get a few better spots in the middle rounds is virtually pointless, IMO. Those guys are all super long shots to ever play a single game in MLB. The 101st prospect at 37 is quite a huge reach, especially with the 15th ranked still on the board.The great thing about sports is we always eventually get a result. Eventually we'll see how these picks work out.The MLB board isn't the be all end all. After the first 20-25 picks it becomes a pretty rough prospect guide. Have you been watching all these players taken today, and seen how many of them were previously drafted? There is a ton of talent that goes unsigned every year. If the Twins sign everyone they draft that is a huge win. High schoolers in the mid-late rounds can be very touch to sign so having the spending power will be big. I like Carlson too but taking him would be putting first round eggs in one pitching basket which is a huge risk. Instead, with the savings they can spread the risk around a dozen or more arms if they want to. High beta guys. There's going to be plenty of ceiling there too. But there's no ceiling if they don't sign. Edited June 13, 2017 by Willihammer Jham, Danchat and beckmt 3
Bob Sacamento Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Is Leach going to be expensive? He's making noises about his commitment to U Texas.He shouldn't be more than slot (1.8M) in fact I wouldn't be surprised if he's a tad under.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 So, they drafted three guys ahead of their consensus rankings. Using the same scouts that drafted Stewart and Jay. To save money for what, exactly?To get a slightly better long shot in round 11 I guess.
Einstein1 Provisional Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 So, they drafted three guys ahead of their consensus rankings. Using the same scouts that drafted Stewart and Jay. To save money for what, exactly?You just don't know how the draft works. Sorry, couldn't resist. Mike Sixel, Hosken Bombo Disco and 70charger 3
drivlikejehu Verified Member Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 So, they drafted three guys ahead of their consensus rankings. Using the same scouts that drafted Stewart and Jay. To save money for what, exactly? Stewart and Jay weren't drafted ahead of their consensus rankings. You can't have it both ways. The Twins have had a lot of failures on "consensus" picks. And until the draft is over, it's obviously impossible to answer that question. If they leave a bunch of money unspent, I will be very displeased, and so I think will everyone on here. But it hasn't happened. Carneal&Gordon, gunnarthor, 70charger and 3 others 6
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