bluechipper Provisional Member Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 Also from Fangraphs today: Jack C. :Travis Blankenhorn now slashing .308/.356/.538 between Rookie and A-ball. 12 2B, 3 3B, 10 HR in 53 games. He is obviously a few years away from having the chance to make a Major League roster, but should the Twins view him as a third baseman of the future? Or are you not so high on him? Eric Longenhagen: Don't think I'd label him "3B of the Future" already but he's a prospect worth following. PA kid with good hand-eye and bat control, fringe athlete, body has held serve so far.
Guest Guests Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 Wilson provided tremendous value in the field and on the basepaths too. If Buxton gets to 46 career WAR, and 31 WAR from ages 23-28, I really don't care how it breaks down as far as offense/defense/baserunning. It's good. Yeah, he's probably not a star into his 30's, but he's a star in his 20's with those WAR numbers for sure. Crisp is at 29 WAR and very near the end of the line. Also Crisp didn't have much of a peak, as he was only worth 13.9 WAR over his first 6 full seasons.Before the days of WAR and Bill James, Willie Wilson was one of the scariest players in the league, even if All-Star selections were based on RBI's and fame. His career was affected by illegal drugs (it was the 70's, man). Had he been clean, he probably would have easily cleared 50 WAR. That would be a fantastic outcome for any 22 year-old not named Mike Trout.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted September 1, 2016 Author Posted September 1, 2016 JT12:38 What's Byron Buxton's new ceiling (I didn't have time to listen to the podcast)? Eno Sarris12:39 I was saying ceiling is more Carlos Gomez, median more Cameron Maybin.
70charger Verified Member Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 JT12:38 What's Byron Buxton's new ceiling (I didn't have time to listen to the podcast)? Eno Sarris12:39 I was saying ceiling is more Carlos Gomez, median more Cameron Maybin.Carlos Gomez's career, or his peak minus the whole falling off a cliff and getting cut thing? If we get peak Gomez for a decade I'm pretty happy.
jimmer Verified Member Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Up until this season, seemed most had a considerably higher level of expectations Buxton would need to meet without being considered a disappointment. As seems to be the case across the board with this team, we keep lowering our expectations. A Maybin type career, for me, would be a bust. The thing about suggesting a ceiling for a player is that players rarely reach that ceiling. it happens, but rarely.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted September 1, 2016 Author Posted September 1, 2016 Carlos Gomez's career, or his peak minus the whole falling off a cliff and getting cut thing? If we get peak Gomez for a decade I'm pretty happy. must be on the podcast, which I have not listened to...
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted September 1, 2016 Author Posted September 1, 2016 highlights from the AFL post on FG: and Twins top prospect Nick Gordon round out an impressive group of infielders.Sleeper: Twins C Mitch Garver has the requisite defensive chops to stay behind the plate, a patient approach, and saw an uptick in his power output this season. He’s been hitting since his promotion to Triple-A. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/arizona-fall-league-roster-highlights/
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Huh, I hadn't really looked at Garver's numbers in a few months. He's putting together a solid season. He's a bit on the old side but is also a catcher.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Huh, I hadn't really looked at Garver's numbers in a few months. He's putting together a solid season. He's a bit on the old side but is also a catcher. -1.5 of the average age at AAA. and about +1.5 at each other stop. First pro stop E-town at 22, and then a level a season, and 2 this one. Could not be rushed more, his first time with the wooden stick (and took him a year to adjust.) Definitely the Twins should give him a shot to earn a spot in ST. (What that piece got wrong is that he has been hitting all season, not when he went to Rochester. Matter of fact, his AA OPS is pretty much identical - 7 points higher)
HitInAPinch Verified Member Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Garver should be up, now.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 Instagraphs take on Buxton's leg kick.
snepp Verified Member Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 Random Fangraphs nugget. The term “pitch to contact” has become anathema to Minnesota Twins fans. The club has consistently ranked at, or near, the bottom in strikeouts for several seasons running. No team in either league has a lower K-rate over the past decade. Look for that to change. According to acting general manager Rob Antony, the organization’s pitching philosophy has been moving into a missing-more-bats direction. “We’ve ranked fairly high in strikeout percentage in the minor leagues over the last few years,” Antony told me this summer. “That’s been a point of emphasis. For a long time, we were maybe too worried about command and control, about not walking guys. We need to do a better job of putting guys away. That’s become a philosophy — a point of emphasis — for us throughout the minor leagues.”
bluechipper Provisional Member Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 A really great Q&A article with Max Kepler. https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/vice-sports-qa-rookie-twins-outfielder-max-kepler-talks-ballet-berlin-and-baseball
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 A really great Q&A article with Max Kepler. https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/vice-sports-qa-rookie-twins-outfielder-max-kepler-talks-ballet-berlin-and-baseballGreat read ... thanks for the link.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2016 Author Posted September 6, 2016 On Dozier's year: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/how-brian-dozier-put-together-a-season-for-the-ages/ Good stuff, really.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2016 Author Posted September 6, 2016 Dozier stuff from today's chat: Big Tall T 12:44 Just read your great article on Dozier. How long do you think he can be successful with the pull% and Fly%? I mean, he's been successful with it a while now august fagerstrom12:44 I mean he's not a true-talent .300 ISO guy all of the sudden12:45 But if he's learned to lay off the outer-third stuff and punish the mistakes inside, he's still going to get mistakes inside Buxton stuff:Snarfle12:59 Too early to be excited by New Buxton? Normal answer is yes, but has he ever had a stretch like this in the majors? august fagerstrom12:59 I mean, he had 3 homers in his first 109 games, and then has had 3 homers in his last 5 games1:00 So no, he's never had a stretch like thisAdd to that the four homers he hit in a row in AAA two weeks ago, and yeah, consider me excited
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2016 Author Posted September 7, 2016 This is NOT about the Twins.....but the table is NICE if you are Twins' fan.... http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/jose-de-leon-looked-exactly-as-advertised/
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted September 8, 2016 Author Posted September 8, 2016 Klaw chat today... John: Buxton has been on a tear since he was called up again. Is this just small sample size or did he alter his approach or mechanics?Klaw: I know of no change in approach or mechanics, and it’s just seven games, but I’m happy to see it.Brett: Why do you think the Twins didn’t call up ABW or Garver when they’re giving consistent ABs to Schafer and Centeno?Klaw: Walker has 202 strikeouts this season. Those are good reasons. Bruce: Maybe Im having some selction bias, but rookie hitters doing so much better than rookie pitchers this year. Even looking at the distibution in top prospect lists, are we in a down cycle for pitching prospects?Klaw: I’ve mentioned this before but I think differences between the minor and major league baseballs are the root cause.Tye: How historically impressive has Brian Dozier been since the AS break? It seems like you don’t even hear anything about him.Klaw: Playing for a non-contender doesn’t help. I wrote in June that he should be in the All-Star Game over Nunez as the Twins’ rep and was told by a couple of Twins fans that this was dumb because Dozier was having a bad season. Clay: Does Buxton have potential to be as good defensively in center as Kiermaier?Klaw: That’s a very high bar but I think Buxton’s speed and arm could make him a top 3 CF in baseball. Marshall: Has Gonsalves performance this year raised his profile at all in your opinion?Klaw: Not really. Two-pitch starter struggles with the breaking ball. Walked a lot of guys in double-A but was young for the level (turned 22 on July 8th). Back end starter? Marshall: The power that Dozier has developed over the last few years seems really out of character in comparison to his early scouting reports and minor league numbers, can you think of any other players that had something similar happen to them when they made the bigs?Klaw: Matt Duffy’s 2015 season comes to mind. JG: AA is rumored to be a candidate for the prez of baseball operations for the Twins. Would he be a good hire?Klaw: He’d be an outstanding hire. He really fits what they have said they’re looking for. Marshall: If the Twins called would you answer, or is your current gig just too good (work/life balance, time with your daughter, seemingly good editorial freedom) for you to entertain a change at this juncture in your life?Klaw: If the Twins called, I would recommend three candidates who are more qualified than I am.
bluechipper Provisional Member Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 That was pretty encouraging from Klaw, besides the Gonsalves part. Matt Duffy hit 12 HRs in 2015. I know that he had basically no power in the minors, but I don't see how that's much of a comparison to Dozier's MLB transformation.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted September 8, 2016 Author Posted September 8, 2016 I threw in the pitching/hitting/rookie question because that's been his answer about Berrios over and over. As for Gonsalves, if he's now a number 4, while not what we all hope, that's still a pretty good outcome. Having never seen him, I can only scout the stats, and I like the stats a lot.
sthpstm Verified Member Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 Gonsalves has talked about working on his slider, but BA and now Law have talked about not using it and/or it being below average. I'm curious what the reality is and how much he's actually used it in game situations.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 I'm guessing Law hasn't seen Gonsalves personally, so to be fair he's relying on reports that may be old. I do know that Gonsalves spent a lot of this offseason working on a breaking pitch... If that's what really helped him this season, then his ceiling is higher than 4... if it isn't... let's not go there
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted September 12, 2016 Author Posted September 12, 2016 Today's FG Sullivan chat:* gooey jello11:58 since they seem to be several years away still, should the twins trade dozier in the offseason?Dan Szymborski11:58 They should at least listen to offers.12:00 If he keeps hitting a billion home runs, the Twins won't be able to afford him after 2018. And if he doesn't, well, then not trading him loses value. Patrick12:05 Is the value of a middle infielder who can hit 20+ homers reduced because of the huge spike in HRs this year, or do you think this is a one year aberration?Dan Szymborski12:05 It's hard to tell. Home run bumps usually stick more often than not, the Dale Sveums tend to be the exception. Big Joe Mufferaw12:19 Who is having the biggest successful outlier season this year??Dan Szymborski12:19 Probably Dozier now!@ Bork12:37 How will you react when the Braves/Twins go worst to first and face off in the World Series next year?Dan Szymborski12:37 Assume I'm having a coma dream. *I've asked the FG's chats for two weeks what the Twins should do, and now it gets answered....sort of.
jimmer Verified Member Posted September 12, 2016 Posted September 12, 2016 Sullivan was Friday and Dan Z (the ZiPS creator) is chatting now. Fangraphs prospect guy is chatting later today.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted September 12, 2016 Author Posted September 12, 2016 Ooops, ya, my bad. which should be kinda clear given the name in the responses....
jimmer Verified Member Posted September 12, 2016 Posted September 12, 2016 Ooops, ya, my bad. which should be kinda clear given the name in the responses....It was crystal clear, just letting people know who was chatting now if they wanted to join the chat.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted September 12, 2016 Author Posted September 12, 2016 It's still ongoing, and so far, nothing Twins' specific, but the prospect chat on Fangraphs right now has some really good generic questions......
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted September 12, 2016 Author Posted September 12, 2016 Ouch: Holala3:02 Who will have a better career? Luke Weaver or Jose Berrios?Eric A Longenhagen3:02 I'm really down on Berrios, will say Weaver.
nytwinsfan Provisional Member Posted September 12, 2016 Posted September 12, 2016 Ouch: Holala3:02 Who will have a better career? Luke Weaver or Jose Berrios?Eric A Longenhagen3:02 I'm really down on Berrios, will say Weaver.
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