Molitor is a mediocre manager

[Linus]

Molly pulled the right strings last night getting Pelfrey out of there. I like him as the manager.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

Molly pulled the right strings last night getting Pelfrey out of there. I like him as the manager.

he pulled the wrong strings, by trotting Pelfrey out there as the starter and putting May in the bullpen.

[DJSim22]

A chance to win 3 of 4 at the division leader. Yost uses Holland in the 9th, Molitor trots out Boyer and Thompson.  Series ends 2-2 5minutes later. 

[TheLeviathan]

We should really stop getting into bullpen battles with Kansas City.

[jimmer]

 

A chance to win 3 of 4 at the division leader. Yost uses Holland in the 9th, Molitor trots out Boyer and Thompson.  Series ends 2-2 5minutes later. 

haven't you heard, all managers withhold their closers on the road in a tie game.  Groupthink mentality/ traditional thinking always works and is a great reason to continue to do it.

[drivlikejehu]

The Twins are giving up a ton of outs through baserunning errors and bunts. Bullpen usage has been dubious of late. I'm not impressed... I especially thought the former would be a strength of Molitor's. 

[Willihammer]

Perkins cannot relieve every game. Molitor played the righty-righty lefty-lefty matchups with the pieces he was given, the players just aren't up to snuff. Get. Better. Players.

[USAFChief]

 

The Twins are giving up a ton of outs through baserunning errors and bunts. Bullpen usage has been dubious of late. I'm not impressed... I especially thought the former would be a strength of Molitor's. 

I agree with the baserunning and bunt observation.  Bad, and when the hitting is weak, it gets really magnified.

 

I also don't recall the last time they called a pitchout, and with Suzuki unable to throw out my grandmother, they've become really easy to run on, which has hurt them multiple times recently.  I can recall three seperate times in recent games thinking "pitchout," but no, no pitchout, and in 2 of the 3, the runner was off and stole a base easily.  On the one I was wrong, he went the next pitch.

 

Manage the friggin' game.  These things make a difference.

 

 

[TheLeviathan]

 

Perkins cannot relieve every game. Molitor played the righty-righty lefty-lefty matchups with the pieces he was given, the players just aren't up to snuff. Get. Better. Players.

 

This.  There are issues that fall on Molitor for sure, but this bullpen is composed of 1.5 capable relievers.  No way to manage that straw into gold.

[jimmer]

After not being available yesterday, May was available today, yet he also wasn't used.  According to another poster, he read that May will be used in long relief/mop-up.  Wasn't one of the reasons thrown out there that it might be a good move to put May in the bullpen is because his strikeout ability may come in handy in short relief?  Maybe in situations like today?

[Vanimal46]

After not being available yesterday, May was available today, yet he also wasn't used. According to another poster, he read that May will be used in long relief/mop-up. Wasn't one of the reasons thrown out there that it might be a good move to put May in the bullpen is because his strikeout ability may come in handy in short relief? Maybe in situations like today?

That's what they said that May is the new long reliever? Ugh.... The bullpen has become an embarrassment. It's far overdue to trim the fat with Duensing and Thompson. Bring up anyone with a pulse from the farm.

[Kwak]

 

That's what they said that May is the new long reliever? Ugh.... The bullpen has become an embarrassment. It's far overdue to trim the fat with Duensing and Thompson. Bring up anyone with a pulse from the farm.

IIRC, those two prevented disaster in Saturday's game.

[kellyvance]

 

"I'm on record at this point that Paul Molitor is not better then Gardenhire, if he fails to go .500 with this roster he needs to be one and done, no need to waste time with a 60 year old who will never get it."

 

Remind me to write that down someday. Because I want you in my fantasy league.

 

[DaveW]

Wow, pulling Santana at 93 pitches and not putting in Perkins again.

 

Let's not even get into his obsession with bunting and getting guys caught stealing 45% of the time.

 

Could have swept KC, instead we split because of crappy managing.

[Bark's Lounge]

The last month, the Twins offense has sucked... super duper sucked.

 

If you cannot score runs and have to rely on a bullpen containing the mediocre pieces that we have, days like today will happen more often than not.

 

I liken our bullpen to a buffet. When you go to a buffet, I would imagine one is excited to have a different variety of choices. The Twins Bullpen Buffet contains one Cream Cheese Wanton (Perkins) and the rest is dog ****.

 

Certainly, I would like to see the Twins clean out the filler veterans in the bullpen, but who is to say the guys they call up from the minors would be any better. Tonkin has been butt cheese, Nick Burdi has stalled exponentially, Oliveros is more than a wild card and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We best get comfortable with the dog **** buffet.

 

As far as managing goes, hell, Bruce Bochy makes mistakes, all managers make mistakes. It's baseball, you cannot control how the ball bounces. Sure, once in a great while a manager can make a difference, but that is very rare.

 

The way I look at it is this: the Twins split a 4 game series against a very good Royals ball club on their home turf. That's not too awful and we are 4 games over .500. It is July 5th, who would have dreamed that one up?

 

You don't trade top prospects for bullpen help, so I would surmise we buckle up and hold on for our lives and enjoy the Dog **** Buffet with an occasional cream cheese wanton.

[h2oface]

 

A chance to win 3 of 4 at the division leader. Yost uses Holland in the 9th, Molitor trots out Boyer and Thompson.  Series ends 2-2 5minutes later. 

 

Thompson's ERA over his last 15 games is 10.57. Forget lefty/lefty. He can't get anybody out. Boyer's ERA over the last 15 games is 3.75 and the last 7 games is 4.50. Thompson is used up. Boyer is on his way quickly. I guess I just have higher expectations of relief, and that it is supposed to be what is means, instead of giving away games. I sure hate to see great starts wasted, but that is just an much on the anemic, streaky offense as it is on the blowpen. I do not understand the love Molitor gives Thompson by continuing to put him in in these situations. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

Does anyone have a link where Molitor talks about May's role in the pen?

 

If they put him in the long role, that's idiotic.

[SwainZag]

 

Wow, pulling Santana at 93 pitches and not putting in Perkins again.

Let's not even get into his obsession with bunting and getting guys caught stealing 45% of the time.

Could have swept KC, instead we split because of crappy managing.

 

Hunter was the only runner technically caught stealing in the series.  Both Santana and Rosario were picked off, which are very much on the player inexperience and not the manager.  In the two losses combined they had one sac bunt.  You don't win games scoring a combined 4 runs on 12 hits.  The Twins went 1-9 with RISP today, that's why they lost.

[drjim]

 

Thompson's ERA over his last 15 games is 10.57. Forget lefty/lefty. He can't get anybody out. Boyer's ERA over the last 15 games is 3.75 and the last 7 games is 4.50. Thompson is used up. Boyer is on his way quickly. I guess I just have higher expectations of relief, and that it is supposed to be what is means, instead of giving away games. I sure hate to see great starts wasted, but that is just an much on the anemic, streaky offense as it is on the blowpen. I do not understand the love Molitor gives Thompson by continuing to put him in in these situations. 

 

You prefer he uses Duensing?

 

As someone said earlier, Molitor's ability to manage a bullpen will improve drastically once he gets better pitchers.

[Linus]

Wow, pulling Santana at 93 pitches and not putting in Perkins again.

 

Let's not even get into his obsession with bunting and getting guys caught stealing 45% of the time.

 

Could have swept KC, instead we split because of crappy managing.

There is no way any amount of managing could have resulted in a sweep. Comments like that are not credible.

[drjim]

 

Does anyone have a link where Molitor talks about May's role in the pen?

If they put him in the long role, that's idiotic.

 

They aren't going to bring him in in the middle of innings.

 

Might have used him to start tie games or maybe to start innings in the 6th.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Hunter was the only runner technically caught stealing in the series. Both Santana and Rosario were picked off, which are very much on the player inexperience and not the manager. In the two losses combined they had one sac bunt. You don't win games scoring a combined 4 runs on 12 hits. The Twins went 1-9 with RISP today, that's why they lost.

They also lost because they have a bunch of bad pitchers in the bullpen and Molitor can't use Perkins in every situation of every game.

 

As for Santana, very few managers put him out there for the ninth. For all intents and purposes, this was an early April start for him. He needs to ease into games a bit and while 93 pitches doesn't seem like a lot, 8 innings is a lot. That's 8 times where Ervin warmed up, threw pitches, and then sat and cooled off.

[Platoon]

The bull pen is bad, but would be more of a moot point if there was any semblance of an offense. There is never a margin for error, errors, or walks!

[TheLeviathan]

 

They also lost because they have a bunch of bad pitchers in the bullpen and Molitor can't use Perkins in every situation of every game.

As for Santana, very few managers put him out there for the ninth. For all intents and purposes, this was an early April start for him. He needs to ease into games a bit and while 93 pitches doesn't seem like a lot, 8 innings is a lot. That's 8 times where Ervin warmed up, threw pitches, and then sat and cooled off.

 

And it was hot and humid, but great points.  Santana did all he could, we need to score more than 2 runs if we plan to win baseball games.

[Platoon]

And as long as we are delving into inadequacies, something has to be done about the catching. I am not sure how fast Chiefs grandma is, but she would have little chance to be thrown out by either Twins catcher. I would have no problem with Zuke as the backup, but it's time to do something about the position. Being tough and blocking balls in the dirt only get you so far. As far as hitting goes, that apparently was a 3 months apparition.

[curt1965]

Against the Royals, you need to be ahead after 6. Not tied,down by one or worse. Their bullpen is absolutely lights out! Our bullpen is not! They won games 2 and 4 because of this.

We were living on borrowed time with Boyer. Thompson and Duensing could not pitch for another team.

Fien has been ok. Pressly had been coming, but what now? Graham has actually done better than expected, but Molly has no confidence in him. He and Perkins are the only ones that get you a K when you need it.

So, because the FO neglected the bullpen in the spring, we have to live with these guys this year. The farm system does not have any saviors.

Maybe May can help,but IMHO he's going to be back in the rotation when Pelfrey implodes. Come on offense, let's score some runs and put these games away early!

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

 

Does anyone have a link where Molitor talks about May's role in the pen?

If they put him in the long role, that's idiotic.

 

The manager's show is up on itunes. At 24:30 Molitor says: "We do have Trevor available in probably a longer role, if we need it. Graham is also available in a longer role, if needed." He was talking in context of Sunday's game, however, so it's yet to be seen.

 

The irony is that a tie game going into the bottom of the 9th could be considered a long role (no room for error, but possibility of pitching multiple innings).

 

One possibility today, would have been using Perkins in the 9th to pitch to the middle of the order, and then bringing in May to start the 10th for a few innings. Perkins hasn't made many appearances lately. He hasn't pitched in back to back games in a month. I would guess he's rested.

 

 

 

 

[twinsnorth49]

The last month, the Twins offense has sucked... super duper sucked.

 

If you cannot score runs and have to rely on a bullpen containing the mediocre pieces that we have, days like today will happen more often than not.

 

I liken our bullpen to a buffet. When you go to a buffet, I would imagine one is excited to have a different variety of choices. The Twins Bullpen Buffet contains one Cream Cheese Wanton (Perkins) and the rest is dog ****.

 

Certainly, I would like to see the Twins clean out the filler veterans in the bullpen, but who is to say the guys they call up from the minors would be any better. Tonkin has been butt cheese, Nick Burdi has stalled exponentially, Oliveros is more than a wild card and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We best get comfortable with the dog **** buffet.

 

As far as managing goes, hell, Bruce Bochy makes mistakes, all managers make mistakes. It's baseball, you cannot control how the ball bounces. Sure, once in a great while a manager can make a difference, but that is very rare.

 

The way I look at it is this: the Twins split a 4 game series against a very good Royals ball club on their home turf. That's not too awful and we are 4 games over .500. It is July 5th, who would have dreamed that one up?

 

You don't trade top prospects for bullpen help, so I would surmise we buckle up and hold on for our lives and enjoy the Dog **** Buffet with an occasional cream cheese wanton.

Here's the thing about buffets, they are rarely, if ever, good.

[jimmer]

 

Here's the thing about buffets, they are rarely, if ever, good.

Golden Corral and many, many Asian food buffets :-)

[Platoon]

Here's the thing about buffets, they are rarely, if ever, good.

Excelent point! A lot of "food" of mediocre quality, but reliably filling!