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    Ryan LaMarre Just Might Make Twins Opening Day Roster


    Seth Stohs

    FORT MYERS - When the Twins signed outfielder Ryan LaMarre in late November, it was a ho-hum minor league signing. A quick look at his Baseball-Reference page shows that he’s a solid outfielder who has had a couple of brief cups of coffee in the big leagues. But he’s one of many similar players who sign minor league contracts each offseason.

    Yet here we are, less than a week from Opening Day and Ryan LaMarre is still in camp. After going 2-4 on Saturday night in Sarasota, LaMarre is hitting a robust .487 with a 1.307 OPS.

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    The Twins outfield appears set. In reality, it’s been set for about two years. Ryan LaMarre knew that when he signed. But after a conversation with Twins minor league director Jeremy Zoll, he felt that this was the right place for him to sign.

    “I talked to Jeremy Zoll. He had some great things to say in terms of where he saw me fitting in, what he thought I could bring to the table. Obviously we’ve got Buck (Byron Buxton), Eddie (Rosario) and (Max) Kepler, so that’s pretty much set. Then Robbie (Grossman) and (Zack) Granite behind them, but behind them there wasn’t as much. So it was an opportunity to come in here and show what you can do.” LaMarre continued, “Also as you know, they use a lot of players throughout the year. There’s always going to be that opportunity. But I just really liked what he said about where I fit in, especially coming off of the injury I had last year, so it seemed like a good opportunity.”

    Ryan LaMarre is not a star. The 29-year-old knows that. He understands that if he were to make the Twins roster, be it for Opening Day or later in the season, it will be as a backup. That’s just fine with him. By definition, Ryan LaMarre is a journeyman. He has played for three MLB clubs (and four organizations) in the last three years. In 2018, he joins his fifth organization, the Twins.

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    LaMarre was the second-round draft choice of the Cincinnati Reds in 2010 out of the University of Michigan. He worked his way up the ladder. He never hit over .300, but he always showed a good approach at the plate and a little bit of pop. He also plays strong defense. In August of 2015, he finally received the call he’d be waiting for his whole life.

    The story of his first big league call up is pretty entertaining. LaMarre explains:

    “I was with Cincinnati. I was in AAA. We were in Gwinnett, the Braves AAA team. I was having a decent year, but they were losing a lot of games. I was hot for about the last three weeks leading up to the series. Billy Hamilton was injured. They ended up calling up someone else on the team.”

    Lamarre was disappointed, but got a motivational chat from his manager, “I was pretty close to the manager. I had played for him for two or three years. He called me in and said ‘Don’t worry. Just keep playing hard. September’s right around the corner. I know they didn’t call you up right here, but just keep playing.’

    LaMarre went out onto the field to stretch, and as he tells it, “Within an hour, he (the manager) came running out to the field and said, ‘You’re going up! It’s four o'clock. I don’t have time to explain. You’ve got to pack your bag. You’ve got to go. You have a six o'clock flight out of Atlanta.’”

    Imagine the excitement of getting that news, but now needing to leave the AAA ballpark, pack up your belonging from the hotel and rush to the airport to catch a flight that is less than two hours away.

    “It was rush hour. I packed my bag and grabbed a bat boy who drove me to the airport. I didn’t even get there until an hour after it left, So I missed my flight. I remember calling the guy from the Reds and I was like, if this is it, I’ll rent a car. I’ll be there by the 8th or 9th inning somehow. They said ‘No, no, no. Just take it easy. It was so last minute, we understand. We’ll just get you a flight tomorrow morning. If you miss that, don’t even bother showing up.’

    A positive message, yet also pretty direct. LaMarre heard it, “So I stayed that night at the airport, and then I got on a flight the next day.”

    It was an exciting time Ryan LaMarre and those close to him. “My family was super excited. My wife was my girlfriend at the time. She was very excited. They were all excited. They came into Cincinnati for the weekend. It was fun.”

    LaMarre played in 21 games over the season’s final six weeks. He was used primarily as a defensive replacement and got just 25 at-bats.

    Following the season, he was DFAd and signed a minor league free agent contract with the Boston Red Sox. In late June of 2016, he was called up and got five at-bats (no hits) in five games played. He actually played in one more game, on July 2nd. The Red Sox were losing 21-3 to the Angels, and LaMarre threw a scoreless ninth inning. He gave up two hits, but the final out of the inning came off the bat of Gregorio Petit who also remains on the Twins spring training roster.

    Following the 2016 season, LaMarre was let go by the Red Sox and signed a minor league deal with the Angels. In late April, he was traded to Oakland. He was immediately called up to the A’s and played in three games (0-7) before being sent down. He remained in AAA until a mid-June injury cost him the rest of his season.

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    The Twins signed LaMarre in late November, 2017. He began to rehab last July and was cleared in October. About that same time, he was getting married to his wife Whitney who is a Minnesota native. Because of his injury and rehab, they spent the majority of their offseason in Florida, but he says he could see himself living in the Twin Cities.

    He noted with a smile, “That wouldn’t be a bad place to play for awhile.”

    It might be even more cool for his wife and her family for LaMarre to make the Twins roster in 2018. “It would be amazing. She obviously represents her family. Her parents are from Minneapolis. Her dad was down here and he got to meet Rod (Carew) and Tony (Oliva), and for him, those were the guys he looked up to as a kid. So it would be special. It’d be a fun time.”

    LaMarre’s big league track record hasn’t been strong, but it’s also been a very small sample size. Paul Molitor was asked how he takes past history into account with spring success.

    “You try to know these guys’ history, but you hear about swing changes and other things he’s been doing. He’s had a nice camp. He can play around the outfield. I think he plays the outfield well. He’s been taking good at-bats all spring. He’ll swing and miss some, but he’s got that opposite field power that we’ve seen more than once. He’s got a little bit of that hockey player mentality.”

    Makes sense since LaMarre played hockey in his younger years. Another reason it makes sense for Ryan LaMarre to make the Twins roster in 2018, is to be part of the State of Hockey. And, with the hopes and expectations of the Twins and their fans for 2018, maybe he can help make it more of a State of Baseball again.

    For LaMarre, he’s happy to be a part of this year’s Twins organization and sees it as a special place. “It’s been fun. It’s an awesome group of guys. The coaches are amazing. The manager. The hitting coach. Everyone’s pulling in the right direction. This is a good place to be right now.”

    And on Thursday, Baltimore would be a great place for Ryan LaMarre to be for his first Opening Day. The odds were long six weeks ago (even two weeks ago), but it just might happen.

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    Sorry to harp on the need for a middle infielder but right now the Twins have the following options for OF:

     

    Buxton
    Rosario

    Kepler

    Grossman

    Garver

    Adrianza

    Morrison (emergency)

     

    and the following options for middle infield

     

    Dozier

    Escobar

    Adrianza

    Rosario? (emergency)

     

    They are one nagging three day injury (that doesn't call for the DL) to Escobar, Adrianza, Sano or Dozier to starting a game with Rosario as the backup middle infielder. How is it not a priority to get a middle infielder? How can they even be thinking about another outfielder? What did Erick Aybar do to get cut?

     

     

     

    Edited by ThejacKmp

     

    How many cute ST stories are sticking on the 25 man for Cleveland, New York, Boston, Seattle, and LA?

    Obviously I'm not down there every day to see the adjustments he's made, and if it's legit or a fluke.

     

    I've seen variations of this many times in the past such as "No team that is a serious contender would ever have a place for a guy like Nick Punto or Drew Butera"   and then they move on and make teams that win championships.   In fact, I think  most teams do have that kind of guy or even a few of that guy.    I am not advocating for LaMarre based on the cute story.   If he is above average defense and if he is a good base runner then that potentially has value any given day in the late innings.    If you want a right handed pinch hitter for Kepler, even if it is Grossman then you still want LaMarre in as defense.   If the roster is constructed a certain way he may fit in with his skill set and he may not.    Most reserves have flaws or they wouldn't be reserves.   Granite might be a better reserve but if they want him playing every day as the insurance against a regular getting hurt then it makes sense to have someone else as a reserve with the Twins.   

    I agree with you completely about questioning whether he is a fluke or legit.   I like the ideas of guys reinventing themselves and the light turning on even in the late 20's but the ST training stats themselves should be taken with a grain of salt.  I am reasonably sure he is not a true 1.307 OPS guy.   If he is sent down it will be interesting to see what he does in the minors.

    Grossman came out of nowhere too and has been a valuable member of the Twins the past few years. I don't see someone better to keep - Granite should play every day, Vargas doesn't fit any positional need and the Twins evidently feel totally okay with just Adrianza as a backup IF so why not this guy? Odds are no one they pick is finishing out April in the role.

    That's fair to say. Grossman had a better minor league track record compared to LaMarre (.770 OPS vs. .714 OPS) Still, there wasn't anything to indicate he'd be an .800+ OPS player and he did just that in 2016.

     

    I agree with you on seeing a need for a middle IF over a 5th OF. We'll see if there's someone intriguing enough to pick up.

    Ryan LaMarre's role shouldn't be making the team as their 5th outfielder.  If he can hit as well as Grossman, with a bit more power, and run and field similar to Granite, shouldn't he be their 4th outfielder?  

     

    Send Granite down to play every day.  Then at some point between now and next winter, decide between Grossman and Granite who you want in the organization next year. 

     

    This is probably going to read in a negative way....

    I'm not interested in cute spring training stories. This organization should be beyond that point.

    If LaMarre can make an impact better than other players, great! There's nothing in his past history that indicates he'll be better than Grossman or the other bench players.

     

    Thank You. I think we all had our fill of this over the last 5 years. 

     

    I've seen variations of this many times in the past such as "No team that is a serious contender would ever have a place for a guy like Nick Punto or Drew Butera" and then they move on and make teams that win championships. In fact, I think most teams do have that kind of guy or even a few of that guy. I am not advocating for LaMarre based on the cute story. If he is above average defense and if he is a good base runner then that potentially has value any given day in the late innings. If you want a right handed pinch hitter for Kepler, even if it is Grossman then you still want LaMarre in as defense. If the roster is constructed a certain way he may fit in with his skill set and he may not. Most reserves have flaws or they wouldn't be reserves. Granite might be a better reserve but if they want him playing every day as the insurance against a regular getting hurt then it makes sense to have someone else as a reserve with the Twins.

    I agree with you completely about questioning whether he is a fluke or legit. I like the ideas of guys reinventing themselves and the light turning on even in the late 20's but the ST training stats themselves should be taken with a grain of salt. I am reasonably sure he is not a true 1.307 OPS guy. If he is sent down it will be interesting to see what he does in the minors.

    He has 2800 PAs in the minors. We already know what he'll do.

     

    I sure wish the Twins had added a RH hitting OFer over the winter, but LaMarre ain't it.

    lots of hard cases in the comments section today - the "I have higher expectations" crowd.  If stories like this never happened I might get it, but they do - See Chris Coste.  I hope for the best for every Twin minor leaguer and see no reason to crap on anybody's dreams on the internet.

    I don’g get the continued calls for Granite to go down because he needs to play “everyday”.

     

    He’s 25. He is OLDER than Max Kepler AND Byron Buxton and barely one year younger than Eddie Rosario. The only way he will ever be a regular starter for the Twins is if one of those 3 gets hurt or traded. And it is not at all certain that he would be next in line should that happen. So, what exactly is to be gained by having him play “everyday” when that is not likely to ever be his role as a Twin?

     

    I’m not advocating that he should for sure be on the 25 man roster. Really don’t have a horse in the race as far as who the reserve reserve OFer should be. Just not understanding why some think there is something to be gained by sending Granite down to play everyday.

    Edited by yarnivek1972

     

    I don’g get the continued calls for Granite to go down because he needs to play “everyday”.

    He’s 25. He is OLDER than Max Kepler AND Byron Buxton and barely one year younger than Eddie Rosario. The only way he will ever be a regular starter for the Twins is if one of those 3 gets hurt or traded. And it is not at all certain that he would be next in line should that happen. So, what exactly is to be gained by having him play “everyday” when that is not likely to ever be his role as a Twin?

    I’m not advocating that he should for sure be on the 25 man roster. Really don’t have a horse in the race as far as who the reserve reserve OFer should be. Just not understanding why some think there is something to be gained by sending Granite down to play everyday.

    So he is a year older than guys that are really pretty young.    

    He doesn't profile so well on some scouting sites but here is one take.

     

     

    "According to KATOH, Zack Granite is the No. 6 prospect — not on the Twins, but in all of baseball. Yes, slappy, scrappy, little Zack Granite ranks ahead of famous sons Bo Bichette and Vladimir Guerrero, Jr., to drop a couple names, and 17 spots ahead of Royce Lewis, the Twins’ top prospect and the first overall pick in last year’s amateur draft. Baseball America and MLB Pipeline think there are 26 Twins prospects better than Granite; KATOH thinks there are only five superior prospects in the whole dang sport.

    Here’s Mitchell’s explanation for why KATOH loves Zack Granite entering the 2018 season:

    Granite’s back for his second tour of duty on the All-KATOH team, and frankly, his prospect case has only improved. He’s still a speed demon who plays elite center-field defense, which takes most of the pressure off of his bat. But more importantly, his offensive numbers took a huge step forward in 2017, as he hit a ridiculous .338/.392/.475 in Triple-A with an elite 11% strikeout rate. He’s also 6-foot-1, which some might find surprising given his style of play."

     

    I truly believe he is the guy if one of our regulars goes down and I would rather him getting 20 at bats a week in the minors than 4 per week in the majors in preparation for that role.   Judgement call.  I am fine with him as the reserve outfielder also.

    I’ll take the upside possibilities of Lamarre and his new swing. The only thing the Twins have to lose is Grossy, and I’m not very concerned about that.

    Edit: If he’s willing to start the year in Rochester than he will. Roster flexibility

    Edited by ahart10

     

    He has 2800 PAs in the minors. We already know what he'll do.

    I sure wish the Twins had added a RH hitting OFer over the winter, but LaMarre ain't it.

    I wish we had added a RH OFer as well.   I always advocated for keeping Hicks as a platoon outfielder.   if there was a right handed doppleganger for Kepler I would have been ok with a trade.  Heck, if there was a right handed doppleganger for Granite I would prefer it but if there are good proven right  handed outfielders out there they probably want more than 1 or two starts a week.    Its not like LaMarre was a bad hitter in the minors.    I'm ok whether they keep him or send him down at this point.   The problem  is that he is on a nice role right now but it hard to keep that momentum going with just an at bat or two here and there.

    I wish we had added a RH OFer as well. I always advocated for keeping Hicks as a platoon outfielder. if there was a right handed doppleganger for Kepler I would have been ok with a trade. Heck, if there was a right handed doppleganger for Granite I would prefer it but if there are good proven right handed outfielders out there they probably want more than 1 or two starts a week. Its not like LaMarre was a bad hitter in the minors. I'm ok whether they keep him or send him down at this point. The problem is that he is on a nice role right now but it hard to keep that momentum going with just an at bat or two here and there.

    I don’t know what your definition of bad hitter is, but he’s got a .719 career minor league OPS and hasn’t slugged .400 at A, AA, or AAA.

     

    I don’t like Granite much, but I’ll take him over LaMarre.

    Still don't understand the infatuation with Grossman.  .255 with a dozen home runs and 60 RBI would be a MONSTER year for him.  Need to find a better option if you plan to go to the next level.

    Logan Morrison says hi.

     

    I don’t know what your definition of bad hitter is, but he’s got a .719 career minor league OPS and hasn’t slugged .400 at A, AA, or AAA.

    I don’t like Granite much, but I’ll take him over LaMarre.

    Yeah, but new swing. New approach launch angle. Late bloomer.

     

    What'd I miss 

    For everyone claiming that LaMarre has "pop" in his bat, where is this "pop" manifesting itself?

     

    Obviously, I know that pop doesn't always translate to HRs, but you often see guys with pop rack up doubles.

     

    LaMarre's hit 10 HRs twice, and only had more than 20 doubles once.

     

    So is he just savagely tearing into his singles, rocketing them everywhere, or is he just hitting line drives right at the defense? Because his "pop" certainly hasn't translated to actual success or numbers that indicate he has any "pop."

     

    Molitor indicates that LaMarre has made swing changes that have lead to his spring training success. That's exactly what JD Martinez and Logan Morrison have done recently. If LaMarre is producing now, it doesn't matter what his historical stats are. What he's doing NOW is what the Twins should look at to make their decision. The guy is batting almost .500 in a healthy number of spring training at bats. That's incredible and not something easily dismissed. Sometimes a tiny adjustment or whatever just makes it click for a player.

    The difference between Martinez and LaMarre is that Martinez had a track record of success in both the majors and minors before making a tweak that took him from very good to MVP level.

     

    As for Morrison, I think the jury is still out as to whether his changes will result in sustained success or if it was a 1-year thing. I'm hopeful it's the former, but it could just as easily be the latter. But again, at least at times in the minors, Morrison flashed the tool that keeps him in an MLB lineup.

    Comparing Lamarre to Burroughs seems weird.  Burroughs was a former #9 overall draft pick and a bit of a lottery ticket.  Lamarre is a journeyman who has had an interesting career with lots of ups and downs.  

    Edited by clutterheart

     

    Why does anyone care about freaking ST stats? Good lord.

    Yeah. He's making a fantastic showing in spring training. But so did Park and he ended up back in Korea after a poor year in the minors. 

     

    It's nice to have optimism that he's turned the corner, but we also need to keep expectations in check, especially with that absurdly high Babip. 

    Sorry to harp on the need for a middle infielder but right now the Twins have the following options for OF:

     

    Buxton

    Rosario

    Kepler

    Grossman

    Garver

    Adrianza

    Morrison (emergency)

     

    and the following options for middle infield

     

    Dozier

    Escobar

    Adrianza

    Rosario? (emergency)

     

    They are one nagging three day injury (that doesn't call for the DL) to Escobar, Adrianza, Sano or Dozier to starting a game with Rosario as the backup middle infielder. How is it not a priority to get a middle infielder? How can they even be thinking about another outfielder? What did Erick Aybar do to get cut?

    Adrianza, Garver, and Morrison are all emergency outfielders. Grossman is almost emergency at this point. If Granite is hurt, you gotta have somebody...

     

    Agreed on middle infield, they are thin there too, but at least Adrianza is a pretty good SS. Two bat only guys on the bench could bite them.

    Edited by Sconnie

    Let me preface this by saying I don't really care who the 4th OF is because unless there's an injury their biggest job is to keep the bench warm. I lean Granite, but I'd be fine if it were Lamarre.

     

    As others have mentioned, Grossman was thought of the same way Lamarre is right now and he's had two good seasons with the bat now. Did any of us expect a combined 115 wRC+ out of Grossman? Think that's an easy no. I wouldn't have even expected the 100 he put up last year, even though he was close one year with the Astros with less power and fewer walks. Maybe Lamarre can do the same, but with better defense?

     

    We type posts about wanting to find the next Kluber. Why can't we want/find that for hitters too? There's never a guarantee that you'll get one but doesn't hurt to try. Some of these surprise guys have needed just one tweak and it's elevated them like someone else mentioned. Lamarre probably needs more than one, but you just never know.

     

    It's hard to go by past results with Lamarre because he said he was always changing his swing to be like other players. You can't have sustained results if you're messing with your swing as much as he says he was. Lamarre may be something. He may be nothing. Rowson has done a good job with our hitters so far. Maybe he can with him too. Rosario, Buxton and Kepler are always going to get the majority of the AB's so to me it really doesn't matter who's keeping the bench warm. If it's Lamarre, great. If not, great.

     

    I don’t know what your definition of bad hitter is, but he’s got a .719 career minor league OPS and hasn’t slugged .400 at A, AA, or AAA.

    I don’t like Granite much, but I’ll take him over LaMarre.

     

    I'd likely lean that way too, though I can see the logic about keeping Granite in AAA and calling him up when someone is inevitably hurt. 

     

    It's probably worth noting that LaMarre was a 2nd round pick, destroyed the NCAA, and is a CF, not a corner OF. A .720 OPS out of a CF isn't all that bad. It's not stellar, but if the defense is good, that's fine. If Lamarre can play above average defense at any position, I'm quite fine with that as a 5th OF, with Granite getting the call when there's an injury. 

     

    I certainly like the excitement of the hot spring, but this is firmly in SSS territory, so yeah, I think the skeptics have a right to be skeptical here, though if has reinvented himself, he's going to have the opportunity to show it. I don't mind it. I really don't think the tradeoff between Lamarre and Granite is going to amount to anything. 




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