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    Buxton Not Alone In Early-Season Struggles


    Seth Stohs

    In case you haven’t been following the Minnesota Twins to this point in the season, Byron Buxton has started the season really slowly. On Monday night in Texas, he went 0-2 with two walks and is now hitting just .105/.177/.140 (.318). There is really no way to sugarcoat those numbers. Nick wrote a bit about his struggles yesterday.

    While few have struggled to the level that Buxton has to start this season, there are a lot of hitters who are just not hitting to this point. Heading into play on Monday, 27 qualifying players (have 3.1 at bats per game their team plays for) had a batting average below .200. The average batting average in MLB was .241.

    Image courtesy of Seth Stohs, Twins Daily (photo of Byron Buxton)

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    There are six players in the big leagues who are 22 to 24 years old and hitting under .220 heading into Monday’s games. I thought it would be interesting to see if their teams have done anything about those players. Have they been demoted? Will they be demoted? Have they been moved in the lineup at all? I think I found some consistencies in the research.

    Dansby Swanson - 23 - SS - Atlanta Braves

    2017 Stats*: .139/.162/.194 (.357) in 74 plate appearances over 18 games.

    Swanson was the first overall draft pick in the 2015 draft out of Vanderbilt. Inexplicably, Dave Stewart decided to trade the Georgia native to Atlanta (with two others) for Shelby Miller. The Braves called him up late last year. He played in 38 big league games, he hit .302/.361/.442 (.803) in 145 plate appearances. He had 34 strikeouts, but he also walked 13 times.

    Part of his struggles this season can be tied to his strikeout-to-walk rate. He has 19 strikeouts to go with just two walks.

    He began the 2017 season as Atlanta’s second-place hitter. He stayed in that spot for the first 14 games. He then got a day off. At that point he was in a 3-33 slump which dropped his average to .131. When he returned to the lineup this past weekend, he had been moved to the eighth spot.

    Swanson seems to be taking the struggles in stride. When he was given his one game off, he told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

    “When you’re going like this each at-bat is kind of a battle,” Swanson said. “I was just talking to some people about how, it’s like, they throw those perfect breaking balls on certain counts and they make certain pitches, and then when you do hit balls hard people seem to be standing right there and stuff. But you’ve got to do your best to not let that affect you — just because you’re not getting the result doesn’t mean you’re not doing the right thing.

    “This game, it’s hard. It’s just a weird concept because you can execute everything perfectly and not be successful, whereas in football if you run a play perfectly you’re going to be successful, or in basketball if you shoot the perfect shot it’s going in. It’s just funny how, in this (sport), you can take the perfect swing and it doesn’t matter. Nothing’s really in your control except your immediate action.”

    Tim Anderson - 24 - SS - Chicago White Sox

    2017 Stats*: .179/.203/.254 (.457) in 69 plate appearances

    Anderson was the White Sox first-round pick in 2013 out of Community College. He was called up in mid-June and played in 99 games. He hit .283/.306/.432 (.738).

    Those that have watched the White Sox since his call up know what his issue can be. Throw him a breaking ball outside of the strike zone, and he’ll probably still swing at it. Last year, he saw just 3.7 pitches per plate appearance. This year, that number is down to just 3.3.

    But the White Sox obviously see him as a future star and leader on the team. . This spring, they locked him up to a six year, $25 million contract. With a couple of option years, the value of the contract could exceed $51 million. So, he’s probably got some leeway. He began the season by batting second the first seven games, and then he moved up to the leadoff spot for three games. After a day off, he has hit second four times and led off twice. Through 16 games, Rich Renteria has chosen to keep Anderson near the top of the order.

    Orlando Arcia - 22 - SS - Milwaukee Brewers

    2017 Stats*: .210/.234/.306 (.541) in 64 plate appearances over the first 18 games

    Arcia was signed out of Venezuela. He is the younger brother of former Twins outfielder Oswaldo Arcia. He is known for his premiere defense at shortstop, which may surprise those of us who watched Oswaldo out in the outfield in Target Field.

    He was called up late last year and played in 55 games for the Brewers last year. He hit .219/.273/.358 (.631). The Brewers have him up primarily for his defense and are letting him grow into the offensive side of the game. That is shown, in part, by the fact that they have had him hitting eighth or even ninth in their lineup in each game he’s played.

    Brewers manager Craig Counsell recently told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

    "Development is not a straight line," Counsell said. "Failure is part of it. You don’t know for who and when, but you know that there’s going to be struggles, and you have to get through those times. That’s when most of the learning happens and the biggest adjustments are going to happen."

    "Look, I don’t want to see guys struggle. It’s hard seeing guys struggle. But I know also a lot of good can come from the struggle, and that’s what I always remain hopeful about."

    Jose Peraza - 22 - 2B/SS - Cincinnati Reds

    2017 Stats*: .216/.256/.257 (.513) in 78 plate appearances over 18 games

    Peraza actually made his MLB debut in 2015 when he played in seven games for the Dodgers before being involved in his second, three-team trade in his young career. It sent him to Cincinnati. In 2016, he hit .324/.352/.411 (.762) in 72 games and 256 plate appearances. He played around the infield, but mostly in the two middle spots.

    This year, he is off to a slow start. However, in all 18 games he has played, he has hit first or second.

    Chad Dotson from Redleg Nation doesn’t think that Peraza is in any danger of a demotion:

    As far as I know, there has been no public discussion about either sending Peraza down or dropping him in the lineup. In my opinion, it is highly unlikely that Peraza will be demoted. He’s still just 22 years old, and current management has reason to be patient with the young guys at the heart of the rebuild.

     

    This is a season for the Reds to see who they have and what they can do. Peraza will get a much longer leash than 3 weeks. (Plus, his defense has been good.)

    Trevor Story - 24 - SS - Colorado Rockies

    2017 Stats*: .169/.270/.415 (.686) in 74 plate appearances over 19 games

    Story was the big story early last season. In his MLB debut last year, he hit two home runs. He had six home runs in his first four games. Unfortunately, his season ended after just 97 games due to injury, but he finished by hitting 21 doubles and 27 home runs. He hit .272/.341/.567 (.909).

    So, it’s clear that he isn’t off to the same kind of start as he was last year. However, he has continued to show the home run power. Rockies fans are surprised when Story hits a single so far this year.

    He started the season hitting fifth, and batted fourth or fifth each of the first seven games. Since then, he has hit primarily sixth, but also has three games where he’s batted seventh as well. So for now, he has been dropped a little in the lineup.

    Carlos Correa - 23 - SS - Houston Astros

    2017 Stats*: .197/.286/.295 (.581) with 70 plate appearances in 16 games.

    Correa was the top pick in the 2012 MLB draft, one pick ahead of Byron Buxton. Correa was called up halfway through the 2015 season and hit 22 homers on his way to the AL Rookie of the Year. In 2016, he hit .274/.361/.451 (.811) with 36 doubles, 20 homers and 96 RBI.

    2017 hasn’t started out real well for Correa. However, he has been the Astros cleanup hitter each game that he’s played this season, and that probably won’t change anytime soon.

    SUMMARY

    So what have we noticed from reviewing the six players above? Maybe you’ll think through some more, but here are a few things I noticed.

    1. If you go on Twitter or read comments sections, there are two distinct groups of fans for each of these players. There are the ones who want a guy demoted (or even just given up on), and there are those that will support said player as long as it takes. Here’s a good example from Twitter regarding Dansby Swanson:

    https://twitter.com/santoniobrown/status/855572705994846208

    2.) Defense - you’ll notice that each of these players plays an up-the-middle position, and plays it well. While Buxton is the only outfielder, most of them are shortstops. Each is known for being a plus defender.

    3.) Byron Buxton was the Twins #3 hitter on Opening Day. Having watched him play this spring, it was an aggressive, but understandable plan. Not because of any numbers he put up in spring training, but because of the quality of the at-bats that he was having. After struggling for five games, Paul Molitor moved him down the lineup and he’s primarily been batting ninth since. He’s been pinch-hit for three times and sat out a couple of games too. Swanson stayed in the second spot for 14 games before being moved down this weekend. Story has dropped from five to seven. But the rest have stayed in their spots.

    4.) Online searching tells me that none of the other players are in any danger of being demoted, at least not in the near future.

    5.) Patience is what is being preached. That’s not new. Player development is not linear. Not everyone develops at the same time. Sometimes being optioned helps. Sometimes a player needs to figure things out in the big leagues.

    6.) Walk and strikeout rates are pretty consistently telling in seeing player struggles. I don’t think that surprises anyone. Players that have a better control of the strike zone have a tendency to avoid longer slumps, and they don’t get themselves out by swinging at pitches outside the strike zone.

    Now, we don’t watch these other teams play as often as we watch the Twins. It’s also pretty certain from the stats and the strikeout rates that Buxton’s struggles have exceeded even those mentioned above. Personally, I would like to see the Twins continue to play Buxton most every day and let him try to work through this.

    Finally, here is a list of the 27 players who entered Monday’s game with a sub-.200 batting average.

    Jose Reyes - .104

    Ryan Schimpf - .109

    Jose Bautista - .132

    Devon Travis - .136

    Dansby Swanson - .139

    Danny Valencia - .145

    Curtis Granderson - .149

    Travis Jankowski - .160

    Mike Napoli - .162

    Erick Aybar - .164

    Trevor Story - .169

    Alex Gordon - .169

    Dexter Fowler - .169

    Maikel Franco - .171

    Scott Schebler - .175

    Austin Hedges - .175

    Tim Anderson - .179

    Brett Gardner - .182

    Jonathan Villar - .185

    Rougned Odor - .187

    Alcides Escobar - .190

    Danny Espinosa - .191

    Domingo Santana - .193

    Adonis Garcia - .194

    Justin Bour - .194

    Carlos Gonzalez - .197

    Carlos Correa - .197

    It’s an interesting mix, isn’t it? There are young players and there are old players. There are some former All-Stars, and there are guys you had to look up to see what team they even play for.

    It’s easy to jump to conclusions early in a season even though we all know it’s a very small sample. But with Buxton, the question that Derek Falvey and Thad Levine have to be asking themselves is: What is best for Byron Buxton’s long-term future? Learn in the big leagues or learn in AAA Rochester. The problem is, there is no way to know which answer is more correct than the other. Share your thoughts.

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    Excellent post. 

     

    You could add Greg Bird's .104 as a 24-year-old to your list, unless 48 ABs puts him below your threshold. Plus Yan Gomes (.171) and Kurt Suzuki (.160).

     

    What those three have in common with Brett Gardner (.182) from your list is that they are killing my fantasy team's average, with some help from Neil Walker (.206), Pablo Sandoval (.213) and Stephen Piscotty (.218).

     

    Thank God for Freddie Freeman. 

     

    And it isn't sustainable to be that good, last year the TOP player had around half.....for /150. And, a lot of people here are super down on the defensive metrics, so I am assuming they think Buxton is worth less than this....

    It may not be sustainable at that level, but it certainly is good to see he really is an elite (top 5) CF and that's not just hype. If he could just be an average hitting CF he'd be an all star player.

    I'm not saying a demotion is the answer, but I do wish Molitor would quit pinch hitting for Buxton late in games. He's already hitting ninth now, so he's not gonna get tons of plate appearances. I'd much rater see Byron get four PAs a night in Triple A than two on the Twins.

     

    I'm not saying a demotion is the answer, but I do wish Molitor would quit pinch hitting for Buxton late in games. He's already hitting ninth now, so he's not gonna get tons of plate appearances. I'd much rater see Byron get four PAs a night in Triple A than two on the Twins.

     

    I'm very conflicted on this. While I think they need to be playing for the future this year, if you have a chance to win a game, I think you have to PH for him. And yes, that seems contradictory, but I don't think it is. You give him a chance to play, but you are also honoring the other players in game. PH Vargas (or Kepler) for him is also about the future.

     

     

    Finally, here is a list of the 27 players who entered Monday’s game with a sub-.200 batting average.

     

    That's an incomplete list.  Likely the players who only have the qualified PAs.

     

    Missing Danny Santana (.105) and Chris Gimenez (.190) for starters.  

    Oh Manny Machado fell to .197 as well ;)

     

    Batting average is one thing, and really does not say the whole story, especially about Buxton.  These are the lists that matter:

     

    MLB players with > 45% K%

     

    Buxton

     

    MLB players with > 38% K%

     

    Buxton

     

    MLB players with >35% K%, <100 wRC+ and > 60 PA:

     

    Buxton

     

    He has a known issue:  Striking out on off-speed and breaking stuff.  And until he fixes it, he will not be a major leaguer with the stick. 

    The question here is whether the Twins are willing to let him figure it out at the MLB level or in the AAA level.  The answer should be based on, whether they think they can compete this season and whether they think that Buxton's glove is good enough to let him hang around.

     

    Based on the fact that they wanted Mejia to figure it out in AAA, I suspect that the answer on the competing question is yes.  So the only thing that keeps Buxton in the majors is his glove.  It think that he is about another lazy throw like the one vs. the Wsux, which lost the game, or letting another ball go to the wall dive, away from his glove not being good enough to keep him in the majors.

     

    Unless they decide they don't want to compete.

     

    I have been equal parts concerned and patient when it comes to Buxton. 

     

    My concern will not change until I see him stopping trying to pull outside breaking pitches for 6 run blasts. 

     

    My patience has been recharged after last night's game. He had some great AB's where he simply didn't chase and got on base via the walk. It was his best game so far in 2017. Keep it up Byron. 

     

    By the way... it was very classy of Dozier to deflect the focus of his 3 run double to Buxton keeping the inning alive with a hard fought walk. 

     

    Dozier was right... If Byron doesn't have a good AB in that two out situation... Dozier doesn't get a chance to drive all those runs in. 

     

    I hope Molitor has Buxton back in the lineup tonight so he can build on his good game and I hope Byron does it again. 

     

    Don't care about Power from him right now... I want him focusing on making contact and not making outs. He can do the power thing later. 

     

    I'd say that any fan that expected a good season this year was setting themselves up for disappointment. This is a mid70s win team, that needs to see what players are good or not. Frankly, I wish they'd actually commit to rebuilding, but that does not seem to be the path.

     

    I'm hoping for a mid-70s win team!  That's my dream.  I just can't handle another 59 win team, and I worry about that happening again if Bux continues to hit .107 all year.  

     

    With a strikeout rate half that of Buxton's, and a K/BB rate closer to 2 instead of 7.

    Just adding Becker as another name to the mix.

     

    Jetes had an 0-32 streak one April (with fewer strikeouts than Buxton has!) but you'd never be able to tell for sure which season it was by looking at his career lines. 

     

    If Buxton has Becker's career, that will be bad. Very bad. How were Becker's previous 450 ABs?

    In the season prior, Becker batted 93-392 in 438 PA, for a line of .237/.303/.296 (599 OPS)

     

    Even after that horrid start, Becker finished the 1996 season at  291/372/434, with an .807 OPS, so whatever chocolate milk he started drinking was working. 

     

    In the season prior, Becker batted 93-392 in 438 PA, for a line of .237/.303/.296 (599 OPS)

     

    Even after that horrid start, Becker finished the 1996 season at  291/372/434, with an .807 OPS, so whatever chocolate milk he started drinking was working. 

     

    let's hope that happens again! 

     

    Just adding Becker as another name to the mix.

     

    Jetes had an 0-32 streak one April (with fewer strikeouts than Buxton has!) but you'd never be able to tell for sure which season it was by looking at his career lines. 

     

    All players have slumps that even out in the long run, we know this. That doesn't relate to what Buxton is going through because this isn't just a slump, he's been totally inept with the bat (until yesterday). Other than his September swoon he hasn't shown that he can handle major league pitching at even a basic level in what is now his 3rd year in the show.

     

    It would be one thing if he was repeatedly oscillating between stretches of competence and slumps as he makes adjustments back and forth with pitchers. But this isn't that, this has been a guy that's totally lost at the plate and just trying random things to find something that works.

     

    All players have slumps that even out in the long run, we know this. That doesn't relate to what Buxton is going through because this isn't just a slump, he's been totally inept with the bat (until yesterday). Other than his September swoon he hasn't shown that he can handle major league pitching at even a basic level in what is now his 3rd year in the show.

     

    It would be one thing if he was repeatedly oscillating between stretches of competence and slumps as he makes adjustments back and forth with pitchers. But this isn't that, this has been a guy that's totally lost at the plate and just trying random things to find something that works.

    Other people have said he starts slow at new levels of competition, so I think the best move is to let this play out. 

     

    Other people have said he starts slow at new levels of competition, so I think the best move is to let this play out. 

     

    I think that's pretty much the consensus. Nobody is saying he's toast or to give up on him. Just that there are legitimate concerns because of the ongoing severity of his struggles and ineptitude to this point.

     

    I just don't think pointing to mini slumps that other players have had really says anything useful one way or the other about Buxton. Particularly when those slumps don't really compare all that well (different root cause, different types of players, different era, etc). It would be more helpful to find cases of talented players that had his level of strikeout and pitch recognition issues and actually overcame them.

    I could be wrong but his pitch recognition has looked fine to me on the few occasions I have seen him bat recently. 

     

    He has not been swinging at fastballs outside the zone, and he swings and misses at breaking pitches like everyone else does. Batting against Leclerc last night (44% K rate), Buxton looked like Ted Williams compared to how a couple other guys looked against him (Dozier, Sano). 

    Edited by Hosken Bombo Disco

    Two good things happened for Buxton at the plate today in Tuesday's game at Rangers. First, Buxton took a walk against a pitcher that was having command problems. At his worst, Buxton was swinging at crap, even from a struggling pitcher. Second, Buxton got a scratch hit _to the opposite field_. Very important because Buxton has been trying waaaay too hard to pull everything...over the left field fence. This time he slapped the ball to right center. Very good sign.

     

    Also, I noticed on playback that Buxton did a much better job following the ball into the bat on his single, rather than looking ahead where he hoped the ball would end up. Better use of the eyeballs. Keep it up, kid!

     

    According to Fangraphs, Buxton is worth 0.0 WAR.  Imagine having a .304 OPS and still not being worth negative WAR. That's how good his defense and baserunning have been. Players that Fangraphs says have less WAR: Eddie Rosario (-0.1), Joe Mauer (-0.3), Danny Santana (-0.2), Kyle Gibson (-0.4). 

     

    I don't know all that goes into WAR especially for defense but if Buxton is getting that much credit for defense you have got to consider Mauer's defense more critically.     He is not getting throws from Joe Crede and JJ Hardy over there where all he has to do is hold up his glove chest high and they hit it.  The rockets from Sano that are ankle high or nearly hit the runner and the in between hops from Polanco have been a regular thing and Mauer gobbling them up has been just as regular.    They have been just as run saving as Buxton's extended coverage in center.    It has been Hrbekesque and in my world that is the guy that should own at least half of Mattingly's Gold Glove awards.    

     

        Personally, when I see the lineup I like seeing Buxton out there.   I want to witness the game where it all clicks and he gets in a groove.   Its a less interesting lineup when he is not in it.

    Did I just witness it last night?

     

    I don't know all that goes into WAR especially for defense but if Buxton is getting that much credit for defense you have got to consider Mauer's defense more critically.     He is not getting throws from Joe Crede and JJ Hardy over there where all he has to do is hold up his glove chest high and they hit it.  The rockets from Sano that are ankle high or nearly hit the runner and the in between hops from Polanco have been a regular thing and Mauer gobbling them up has been just as regular.    They have been just as run saving as Buxton's extended coverage in center.    It has been Hrbekesque and in my world that is the guy that should own at least half of Mattingly's Gold Glove awards.    

    Mauer is a fine defender at first but catching the ball isn't very hard. There's an expected level of competency at the MLB level and first basemen catching the ball isn't really note-worthy. AFAIK, scooping and catching the ball isn't a focus of first base defense in advanced metrics for that reason: everybody does it well enough to not make it worth much in defensive value.

     

    Again, not knocking Joe, he's a good defender at first... but most of that value seems to come from his range and baseball smarts.

     

    Whereas Byron Buxton is doing things at an up-the-middle position that I'm not sure anyone else in baseball can even do physically, excepting possibly Billy Hamilton.

     

    Mauer is a fine defender at first but catching the ball isn't very hard. There's an expected level of competency at the MLB level and first basemen catching the ball isn't really note-worthy. AFAIK, scooping and catching the ball isn't a focus of first base defense in advanced metrics for that reason: everybody does it well enough to not make it worth much in defensive value.

     

    Again, not knocking Joe, he's a good defender at first... but most of that value seems to come from his range and baseball smarts.

     

    Whereas Byron Buxton is doing things at an up-the-middle position that I'm not sure anyone else in baseball can even do physically, excepting possibly Billy Hamilton.

     

    scoops are included, but as you point out, most MLB 1B can scoop the ball. The delta between good and great isn't as large for 1B as it is for SS or CF.

     

    scoops are included, but as you point out, most MLB 1B can scoop the ball. The delta between good and great isn't as large for 1B as it is for SS or CF.

    I kinda worded that poorly. I should have said "scoops and catches don't have a lot of value in advanced metrics because everyone's pretty good at it". They're important and they count in metrics but if everyone is good at something, players who are great at it won't gain much value.

     

    It's the defensive equivalent of a player having a .320 batting average while wearing a Rockies uniform in 1998. When everyone else is hitting .310, the accomplishment doesn't mean a whole lot.

     

    got to say that Buck is looking better the last few days... hoping something has clicked and he gets a nice little hot streak going.

    I'm cautiously optimistic. It seems that Buxton has started hitting more line drives, which shows good contact. I don't even care if the line drive lands in a fielder's glove at this point, as it did last night in Byron's final plate appearance.

     

    His first single, while exciting to see fall to the grass, was far less impressive than his final out.

     

    I'm cautiously optimistic. It seems that Buxton has started hitting more line drives, which shows good contact. I don't even care if the line drive lands in a fielder's glove at this point, as it did last night in Byron's final plate appearance.

     

    His first single, while exciting to see fall to the grass, was far less impressive than his final out.

    His final out may have actually been his best at bat of the season even though he made an out.  

     

    Roy Smalley was tweeting about Buxton's at bats last night and he noticed and explained something I thought I was seeing but in a much better, clearer way than I would be able to explain.  But basically he is waiting on the ball a fraction of a second longer.  He is able to then recognize the type of pitch.  His bat speed is naturally fast enough that he can catch up to fastballs still and drive them and any thing offspeed he can pull hard.

     

    It seems he also is able to recognize balls and strikes doing this as well since he has had 3 walks in this last 8 plate appearances.

     

    It seems he also is able to recognize balls and strikes doing this as well since he has had 3 walks in this last 8 plate appearances.

    One of the things I wanted to see Buxton do was take more pitches in hopes that repetition of seeing in-game pitches will help his apparent identification problem.

     

    Which he seems to be doing, which is good. His pitchers per plate appearances has nudged over 4 whereas, IIRC, it was around 3.8 a few weeks ago.

     

    He has worked a bunch more three ball counts into his recent plate appearances, which is a good thing. I don't worry about Buxton ever becoming Aaron Hicks with passivity so erring on the side of patience is probably a good strategy at this point, even if he gets rung up looking on occasion.




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