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    A Former Player’s Perspective on What to Expect out of a Big League Manager:

    The Twins have made a managerial decision and there is a lot of misplaced outrage and vitriol about it. While it may be fun, I would urge the malcontent to adjust their expectations of a manager and re-direct their anger elsewhere.

    Alex Boxwell
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    I have had the good fortune of having what some would call a “playing career” in baseball. I have also had the privilege of playing for some of the best leaders at any level that the game has to offer. From 2015 to 2018, I played for the University of Minnesota. I had the honor of suiting up for John Anderson on some of the most talented clubs the Gophers have run out to date. After college, I had parts of four seasons in independent ball, with my longest tenure being with the Fargo-Moorhead RedHawks. For the RedHawks, former big leaguer and World Series champion Chris Coste was at the helm.

    What were the common threads between these two? They knew how to manage the thermostat of a clubhouse and when to turn the dial one way or the other. They also had a keen understanding of where they could actually impact on-field performance: through strong relationships with their players.

    In college ball, there are many more opportunities to have formal practices and develop skills. While in professional baseball, you are relegated to spring training and early work before one of the 162 games. Not to mention, most major leaguers have already played hundreds of games in the minors and/or college by the time they’ve reached this level. At this level, most guys have a routine and have become extremely polished in their skills. What most guys need is someone who will coach their mentality and their confidence. The margin for being a good big leaguer to someone who might not be playable is so thin that a lot of times it comes down to who can handle going 0-4 with three punch outs.

    For all intents and purposes, Derek Shelton is Rocco Baldelli 2.0; anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. Anyone who thinks that, with the current organization's structure, the on-field decisions will change is also fooling themselves. It is very clear in my observations of the Twins that the manager has very little power over what goes on. Everyone says the game is run off of a spreadsheet, and I don’t think that’s too far off here. To me, before each game, there’s a meeting and they decide who is available. After this, a flow chart of “what ifs”. Truthfully, if Rocco had full autonomy during his tenure, I think he would’ve been fired sooner.

    I liked Baldelli, and I like Shelton. I think they both manage personalities well, and players speak highly of them both. The discourse around the managerial position in Minnesota makes me feel like Shelton is going to get considerable innings on the mound this year and maybe take on an Ohtani role while hitting for us, too. The outrage over the hire confuses me. Derek Shelton can’t control whether Royce Lewis, Pablo Lopez, and Byron Buxton are healthy. Derek Shelton will not make us play small ball more often; the front office decides as a whole what the play style will be. He will not convince 30-year-olds with 5,000 at-bats in The Show to choke up with two strikes. At that level, the players are in control of their careers, and if they want to make adjustments, it will be on them.

    What Derek Shelton will do is the only thing he can. He will make a small impact on the day-to-day feel of the clubhouse and manage personalities. People will point to the Brewers and Pat Murphy (I love Murphy), but he proves my point. He had a great pitching staff, managed personalities, and knew when a guy needed to be pushed or needed an “atta boy”. That’s all a manager can do at that level because they will not be physically performing at any point. If the bullpen stinks and they can’t drive in runs, Joe Torre or Dusty Baker would not save them. The manager's job is to put players in a position to succeed (I’d argue the Twins don’t leave much room for this), build a relationship with the players, and know when to throw a bucket of baseballs onto the field.

    I know it’s easy to point the blame at a manager, but I would also argue that’s part of why they are there. A good leader will step in front of the arrows the media fires and deflect praise to his players. I know it’s not a sexy hire, but being a major league manager is not a sexy job.

    Time will also help us understand the hire. If the Twins break this thing down to the studs, he is likely a scapegoat for a 90-100 loss season, and he’s gone in a year, maybe less. If they bring in more talent, it could go the way of Murphy and become a bit of a folk hero. Ultimately, the players' on-field performance will decide his fate.

    The villains in this story are the people who are pulling the strings, and the echoes from 2023 still vibrate through the fan base (rightfully so). Don’t forget who we beat that year. The ones who bore the cross for the organization's poor decisions were Baldelli and our players traded at last year's deadline. Realistically, it should’ve been the decision makers who had to pack their bags, but we can’t always get what we want.

     

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    I agree with your article for the most part.  Bottom line to me is firing Baldelli but keeping Falvey.  The front office should have been replaced as well.  Nothing really against Shelton but the hire is just a continuation of the failed policies of the current front office.  They have succeeded in one thing though:  totally turning off the fan base and perhaps a whole generation of fans.

    Great article, Alex. Many fans, understandably, are very emotional right now. It’s starts at the top with ownership. If they are willing to spend the money for talent, it’s incumbent upon the FO to use those funds to hit on impact players. At that point the onus IS on the manager to take full advantage of the tools he has to use. Right now it’s about leadership communication and team building.. if he can impart some wisdom and awareness on the younger group coming up that will be a win. Until things change with Ownership and the FO, that should be what we hope for and expect.

    It's nice to see this perspective.  Some of that may be confirmation bias on my part because this reinforces what I've been saying for awhile: fans overrate the role of manager in baseball.

    It's mostly a matter of managing personalities and we have very little insight into that to make any real judgements.

    I would be curious @Alex Boxwell - what did you see as being impactful in the development of players?  What people in professional organizations were instrumental in that?

    35 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

    It's nice to see this perspective.  Some of that may be confirmation bias on my part because this reinforces what I've been saying for awhile: fans overrate the role of manager in baseball.

    It's mostly a matter of managing personalities and we have very little insight into that to make any real judgements.

    I would be curious @Alex Boxwell - what did you see as being impactful in the development of players?  What people in professional organizations were instrumental in that?

    I think hitting and pitching coaches have a lot more impact on the on field development of player. I was an an outfielder my whole career, so hitting coach in college, shoutout to Pat Casey, had a huge impact on our approach as a whole and getting the most out of certain guys at the plate. At the professional level things tend to be more hands off unless a player is actively looking for feedback. 

    If what you say is gospel how do you explain Rocco's abrupt change of style after the trade deadline allowing a more aggressive, exciting brand of ball?   Maybe he saw the hand writing on the wall and decided he had nothing to lose.

    @Alex Boxwellgreat article! Totally agree! Although I didn’t play as high of levels as you I would echo your talking points. Even in high level D2 baseball 20 years ago the Head coach is not working individually with players. Also, coaches were not working individually with players all that much but more group work and philosophy. For instance developing change ups at that level.  We would get instruction as a pitching group  and we would be expected to work on it individually. Mechanics were just starting to be implemented and we would have a video day where we were shown different mechanics and how to utilize them and what key positions and movements were. Never was there a coach personally instructing on where and how to move but we needed to find what worked individually to unlock our best movements in a throwing program. The point is even at that level 20 years ago a head coach or manager was merely doing just that. Managing the overall structure of a 35 player roster and the talking head pulling the strings of a game in the dugout. That was D2 20 years ago so I can imagine what a ML organization is like. I would guess that’s why players get payed so much more. Why? Because they are in control of their careers. Yet people seem to think managers and coaches are so much more involved than they really are for some reason. Derek Shelton will be as good as the roster he’s given and how he influences that roster. 

    1 hour ago, Hrbeks Divot said:

    Great article, Alex. Many fans, understandably, are very emotional right now. It’s starts at the top with ownership. If they are willing to spend the money for talent, it’s incumbent upon the FO to use those funds to hit on impact players. At that point the onus IS on the manager to take full advantage of the tools he has to use. Right now it’s about leadership communication and team building.. if he can impart some wisdom and awareness on the younger group coming up that will be a win. Until things change with Ownership and the FO, that should be what we hope for and expect.

    Any owner is not going to spend more than the revenue. A new owner will have a short term tax break if their outside income is high enough to use it. 

    26 minutes ago, Alex Boxwell said:

    I think hitting and pitching coaches have a lot more impact on the on field development of player. I was an an outfielder my whole career, so hitting coach in college, shoutout to Pat Casey, had a huge impact on our approach as a whole and getting the most out of certain guys at the plate. At the professional level things tend to be more hands off unless a player is actively looking for feedback. 

    Thanks so much for the breath of fresh air! Using logic and reality to describe the role of a Manager in MLB is missed here most of the time.

    Players play.

    Position coaches tweak, motivate a bit, try to build confidence, try to improve tendencies, point out bad habits here or there as appropriate. Managers set a time/culture/feel.

    Baldelli, as you pointed out, has been the “face” of the organization’s approach. I get that the FO may, in reality or perception, be calling the shots in general. I do think the FO gets too much static as well with the complete lack of support from Ownership over past 2 years. Can’t sign 2 guys for $57M per year and then cut back $25M per year in spending. The “hope” for this year is Team spends at 2021 levels of $135M & 90% here don’t think it will get anywhere near that total. The ownership is pulling down the effectiveness anyone might have in FO, IMO.

    37 minutes ago, Old Crow said:

    If what you say is gospel how do you explain Rocco's abrupt change of style after the trade deadline allowing a more aggressive, exciting brand of ball?   Maybe he saw the hand writing on the wall and decided he had nothing to lose.

    The odds of what will happen with the talent you have. Determine what the manager does.  He basically was left with small ball talent so he had to play small ball. 

    43 minutes ago, Alex Boxwell said:

    I think hitting and pitching coaches have a lot more impact on the on field development of player. I was an an outfielder my whole career, so hitting coach in college, shoutout to Pat Casey, had a huge impact on our approach as a whole and getting the most out of certain guys at the plate. At the professional level things tend to be more hands off unless a player is actively looking for feedback. 

    Thank you!  I hope you stick around and add more "insider" type knowledge to the site.  It's a different dimension that I think could add a lot to the conversations here.  

    So I'll ask one more in that spirit if you don't mind: What did you see "good" managers do to help with personalities?  Or what did "bad" managers do to sour the clubhouse?  Maybe you didn't have both experiences but heard from other players?

    56 minutes ago, Old Crow said:

    If what you say is gospel how do you explain Rocco's abrupt change of style after the trade deadline allowing a more aggressive, exciting brand of ball?   Maybe he saw the hand writing on the wall and decided he had nothing to lose.

    I think you probably hit the nail on the head. Almost a middle finger from Rocco to the organization like hey look what we could've been if you let me manage.

    I also think this could've been a decision from the front office as well. At least in terms of the spike in stolen bases, trying to figure out what certain guys could do at the major league level. 

    Or as some others have mentioned, having more small ball talent plays a role I'm sure as well.

    Edited by Alex Boxwell

    @Alex Boxwellwhen you played Indy Ball, was there a change in coaching levels/application relative to college? I picture an incremental honing of skills and much like the business world, people who succeed pick up what their mentors share with them and carry it themselves to the next steps in their own development plan/execution. Am I on the right track?

    as to Shelton, I dislike the hire, not because I dislike Shelton, but because of what it represents. Status quo failed because the GM failed to acquire good players, not because the manager was bad.

    Alex, Please write more articles for TD   TD, please encourage Alex to write more articles.  Alex, you really helped me put into proper perspective a manager's possible influence on a baseball team. 

    16 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

    Thank you!  I hope you stick around and add more "insider" type knowledge to the site.  It's a different dimension that I think could add a lot to the conversations here.  

    So I'll ask one more in that spirit if you don't mind: What did you see "good" managers do to help with personalities?  Or what did "bad" managers do to sour the clubhouse?  Maybe you didn't have both experiences but heard from other players?

    I was very fortunate to not have a ton of experience with what I would consider a bad coach/manager but I can do a little story time on the glory days:

    My freshman at the University of Minnesota, before the covid fiasco caused the entire college landscape shift, our 2015 club had one of the two losing seasons in John Anderson’s tenure at Minnesota at that time. I believe Northwestsern had just beat us like 21-4 at home, and I'll never forget the post game in our clubhouse. 14 (we never called him coach Anderson, he was always 14), normally was as cool of a customer as they come and he blew us up post game. It was one of two times in my four years he ever really let us have it and they both came that year. 

    What I'm circling the wagon’s to get to though is after that he met with all us freshman as a group and gave us a more uplifting message that we had a opportunity to change the program. I think that's what being a great manager looks like, knowing how to motivate short and long term and knowing when to give a guy a hug and tell them you care about them. I don't think I ever had a practice where 14 didn't say “Box! How was college today?”even little things like that really add up. I think bad managers miss those opportunities to connect with their players and only tap into “how do I push these guys” and don’t get me wrong there's certainly a time and place for that!

    23 minutes ago, Richie the Rally Goat said:

    @Alex Boxwellwhen you played Indy Ball, was there a change in coaching levels/application relative to college? I picture an incremental honing of skills and much like the business world, people who succeed pick up what their mentors share with them and carry it themselves to the next steps in their own development plan/execution. Am I on the right track?

    as to Shelton, I dislike the hire, not because I dislike Shelton, but because of what it represents. Status quo failed because the GM failed to acquire good players, not because the manager was bad.

    In regards to Shelton, I think that's fair.

    And 100% there were so many different approaches and routines that guys had and it was such blast to talk shop around the batting cage. 

    I learned so much from other players and hearing why they do certain things to prepare for a game. It was amazing to see how guys coming from affiliate ball (A+ or AA typically) did a lot more things based on feel and a guy like me coming from college was more drill focused in my preparation.

    One of my favorites I picked up was from Chris Jacobs. He played in the Dodgers organization, phenomenal hitter. During BP he wanted the BP thrower to mix in breaking balls. By the end of the year I was doing it to. It was so brilliantly simple and so many guys added that to their routine.

    I've wrote about it a bit before but at that level most guys swing’s stay the same. It's the fine tuning of a batting stance or a routine that gets played around with. 

    Long story short. The college level is still very hands on in my opinion. Especially with your position based coaches where Indy ball they're happy to show you the way out of you don't perform so it's a little more hands off.

    I think the article is totally logical. I think the article is also tone deaf because I believe it misses the point.

    Fans are angry because they already know Shelton isn't going to change anything. I don't think anybody is angry at Shelton. The fans are furious with the Pohlad family because fans know Falvey is the problem.

    Like many others, I believe Falvey thinks he's way smarter than everybody else with little evidence to support he's even on par with the median as a strategiest. There was some sort of desperate hope a change would be made which would indicate Falvey has finally been humbled a bit, that there was light at the end of the tunnel for this organization even with the incompetent Pohlads at the top. Shelton was absolute proof there is no change. This franchise is exactly what it has been, and headed in the very same direction as it was.

    I'm not an ex-player. I'm an ex-season ticket holder. I don't hate the Pohlads, I don't hate Shelton, and I don't hate Falvey. That said, I am furious with ownership because they're not doing their job as owners. They have very little true responsibility. Hold the front office accountable, provide resources to run the team. That's it. This ownership group absolutely refuses even the smallest iota of the former, and isn't particularly savvy on the later.

    I want to be able to attend games with an atmosphere again. To be able to share my love of baseball with others who are actually willing to experience it. I don't see that improving. There isn't any talent for understanding fans in the entire Twins organization from what I've seen. Too many mediocre front office employee experiences, no consideration for season ticket holders needs, not even asking the right *^*&^&*^ questions on surveys.

    11 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

    I think the article is totally logical. I think the article is also tone deaf because I believe it misses the point.

    Fans are angry because they already know Shelton isn't going to change anything. I don't think anybody is angry at Shelton. The fans are furious with the Pohlad family because fans know Falvey is the problem.

    Like many others, I believe Falvey thinks he's way smarter than everybody else with little evidence to support he's even on par with the median as a strategiest. There was some sort of desperate hope a change would be made which would indicate Falvey has finally been humbled a bit, that there was light at the end of the tunnel for this organization even with the incompetent Pohlads at the top. Shelton was absolute proof there is no change. This franchise is exactly what it has been, and headed in the very same direction as it was.

    I'm not an ex-player. I'm an ex-season ticket holder. I don't hate the Pohlads, I don't hate Shelton, and I don't hate Falvey. That said, I am furious with ownership because they're not doing their job as owners. They have very little true responsibility. Hold the front office accountable, provide resources to run the team. That's it. This ownership group absolutely refuses even the smallest iota of the former, and isn't particularly savvy on the later.

    I want to be able to attend games with an atmosphere again. To be able to share my love of baseball with others who are actually willing to experience it. I don't see that improving. There isn't any talent for understanding fans in the entire Twins organization from what I've seen. Too many mediocre front office employee experiences, no consideration for season ticket holders needs, not even asking the right *^*&^&*^ questions on surveys.

    Maybe my angle on the hire is a hair nihilistic but I just don't think the “right hire” exists. Would Torii Hunter or Nick Punto be fun to talk about? Sure. Would they be great managers? I don't know. I understand the outrage and that it seems like a sleepy move but the reality is that they need some familiar names to play better or get better players. 

    7 minutes ago, Alex Boxwell said:

    Maybe my angle on the hire is a hair nihilistic but I just don't think the “right hire” exists. Would Torii Hunter or Nick Punto be fun to talk about? Sure. Would they be great managers? I don't know. I understand the outrage and that it seems like a sleepy move but the reality is that they need some familiar names to play better or get better players. 

    I said the same thing about Hunter. No idea if he's any good as a manager. Nobody knows if there is a manager out there who would make a huge difference to the team. I sincerely doubt there's a manager who can implement organizational philosophy changes or take D+ fielders and transform them into B+ fielders. Or a manager with Spidey-sense who knows exactly when to pull a pitcher.

    Being well regarded and liked has no bearing on whether or not a manager is good. A good leader identifies opportunities to improve, gets buy-in from the team, and pushes the entire team in a more efficient direction. Sometimes kicking and screaming through rough transisions. 

    Even if there was such a manager, Falvey wouldn't allow them the autonomy to exercise their philosophy. That said, fans were desperate for hope there would be a hint that could happen. Their unreasonable hopes were dashed.

    7 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

    I said the same thing about Hunter. No idea if he's any good as a manager. Nobody knows if there is a manager out there who would make a huge difference to the team. I sincerely doubt there's a manager who can implement organizational philosophy changes or take D+ fielders and transform them into B+ fielders. Or a manager with Spidey-sense who knows exactly when to pull a pitcher.

    Being well regarded and liked has no bearing on whether or not a manager is good. A good leader identifies opportunities to improve, gets buy-in from the team, and pushes the entire team in a more efficient direction. Sometimes kicking and screaming through rough transisions. 

    Even if there was such a manager, Falvey wouldn't allow them the autonomy to exercise their philosophy. That said, fans were desperate for hope there would be a hint that could happen. Their unreasonable hopes were dashed.

    In regards to the bolded part, I think you are missing a detail. All great managers (any industry) are at minimum, above average leaders. Leadership is not about being liked, as you astutely point out, but it is always penultimately about respect, and excellent communication. No one can be a good leader without those two skills with the ability to give and receive…Those two skills are two way streets. Usually those two skills coincide with some level of affinity. If an individual really dislikes another, it’s almost impossible to hear what they mean. A leader delivers a message in a way that is meaningful to the receiver and listens with empathy to receive the message in the intended way. No one can do that with a certain level of personal dislike.

    on the underlined, that’s my fear too. The executive micromanager too overwhelmed to let things go and can’t lead anymore or execute. It’s a scary thought.

    17 minutes ago, Bigfork Twins Guy said:

    I can optimistically say that I feel that Shelton may be the BEST hire we could have made.  I say that because he is not coming in raw like Baldelli did or inexperienced like Hunter or Punto would be.  He has real-world managing experience and I feel he already has made the basic manager 101 mistakes that the aforementioned folks have not yet encountered.

    Possibly having learned from those mistakes will make him a much better manager this time around.  For that reason, I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.

    The only thing that could mess this up for him is Falvey micro-managing him like he did with Baldelli (IMO).  Hopefully Falvey also learned from his mistakes and can improve in this area.

    Love this take! Shelton hasn't done anything wrong yet, let him start with a clean slate and see what happens!

    Don't know the Pohlads or Falvey. They might be fun, interesting people that get along with many people. Falvey is a good salesman. In my mind, this offseason is his final opportunity to show he has baseball knowledge. The POBO and others managing the manager is not a plan that will work. Can there be collaboration? Absolutely, and there should be conversations, but the job of the front office is to build a roster and the manager must run the games.

    We can't know unless or until someone tells us otherwise whether Baldelli shifted the way the Twins played from mid August onward. An early clue will be the moves in the offseason and the games in April.

    2 hours ago, Alex Boxwell said:

    I think you probably hit the nail on the head. Almost a middle finger from Rocco to the organization like hey look what we could've been if you let me manage.

    I also think this could've been a decision from the front office as well. At least in terms of the spike in stolen bases, trying to figure out what certain guys could do at the major league level. 

    Or as some others have mentioned, having more small ball talent plays a role I'm sure as well.

    The story, I think from the Twins broadcast booth that Jayce Tingler went to Rocco and suggested the accelerated running game. It’s a shame to have wasted that component to winning so long.

    I think a great manager who is a brilliant tactician can mean something around +5-8 wins. This is a small group in my lifetime but I firmly believe it for Gene Mauch, Terry Francona and Jim Leyland. From that perspective Rocco was worth - x-x wins, whether that was dictated from the top or Rocco’s head scratching decisions, like playing the infield in about 99% oof the time, eschewing the bunt in late innings when it might have won a game, taking out a pitcher with 7 IP, 1 H and 87 pitches, etc etc.

    I’m thinking Joe Pohlad, Derek Falvey may straighten up and assemble a decent team after all the turmoil and the upheaval of having to fire Rocco and now bringing in a new manager who they really do owe an honest effort to. And they do know the fanbase is disgusted.

    2 hours ago, bean5302 said:

    I think the article is totally logical. I think the article is also tone deaf because I believe it misses the point.

    Fans are angry because they already know Shelton isn't going to change anything. I don't think anybody is angry at Shelton. The fans are furious with the Pohlad family because fans know Falvey is the problem.

    Like many others, I believe Falvey thinks he's way smarter than everybody else with little evidence to support he's even on par with the median as a strategiest. There was some sort of desperate hope a change would be made which would indicate Falvey has finally been humbled a bit, that there was light at the end of the tunnel for this organization even with the incompetent Pohlads at the top. Shelton was absolute proof there is no change. This franchise is exactly what it has been, and headed in the very same direction as it was.

    I'm not an ex-player. I'm an ex-season ticket holder. I don't hate the Pohlads, I don't hate Shelton, and I don't hate Falvey. That said, I am furious with ownership because they're not doing their job as owners. They have very little true responsibility. Hold the front office accountable, provide resources to run the team. That's it. This ownership group absolutely refuses even the smallest iota of the former, and isn't particularly savvy on the later.

    I want to be able to attend games with an atmosphere again. To be able to share my love of baseball with others who are actually willing to experience it. I don't see that improving. There isn't any talent for understanding fans in the entire Twins organization from what I've seen. Too many mediocre front office employee experiences, no consideration for season ticket holders needs, not even asking the right *^*&^&*^ questions on surveys.

    Sounds like you’re just angry, period. No problem with that. “Shelton won’t change anything…..” None of the other potential hires have any more clout to “change things”. Sounds like there was no “good or acceptable hire”.

    I agree, no reason to HATE anyone. Can’t be any more disappointed in Ownership!! Pretty easy to fix if they take budget back to $130-$135M ………. then it falls on FO. 

    My thoughts are that we don't know if the ownership or front office is aware of the fanbase. I think they do, but there also isn't any evidence. All Falvey's comments have been the same. One could copy/paste the words into virtually any year or situation. Awareness has not been evident, at least to me. Perhaps everyone but me has knowledge of that as pertains to ownership or front office. This made me wonder - Does anyone think or believe there are people within ownership or the front office who read blogs? I can't see it.

    The idea of a payroll above $115M is entirely possible. $130-135M or more is also possible too. Am I the only one who would be surprised? Where is the shock level?  I guess below $60M or above $135M.

    To the post - a manager has to have good relationships with the players, but the win/loss record is almost entirely due to the work of the players. 

    4 hours ago, Alex Boxwell said:

    II don't think I ever had a practice where 14 didn't say “Box! How was college today?”even little things like that really add up. I think bad managers miss those opportunities to connect with their players and only tap into “how do I push these guys” and don’t get me wrong there's certainly a time and place for that!

    So many parallels with my 35+ yrs of business experience. Everyone in the organization knew the best managers. I always made sure they were the faculty at our new managers' training.

    1 hour ago, JD-TWINS said:

    Sounds like you’re just angry, period. No problem with that. “Shelton won’t change anything…..” None of the other potential hires have any more clout to “change things”. Sounds like there was no “good or acceptable hire”.

    I agree, no reason to HATE anyone. Can’t be any more disappointed in Ownership!! Pretty easy to fix if they take budget back to $130-$135M ………. then it falls on FO. 

    Sounds like you put your own spin on my aggregation of commentors and fans I've spoken with. 

    Fans are angry at ownership. Am I wrong about that? I think my perception of that is correct.

    Fans also believe Derek Falvey is the biggest problem, not the manager, and they'd like the Pohlads to do their job and fire him. Again, I don't think I'm wrong about that.

    Some fans are all about hiring a Tom Kelly-ish manager who focuses on fundamentals with the idea the manager will transform a hapless, fundmental-less fielding group who haven't been using solid fundamentals for years into great fielders quickly. I might be misinterpreting this, but I don't think this is plausible. I agree a manager has the power to make a difference, but the difference is going to take time. It won't be immediately transformative. 

    As for me, I'm mad because I feel ownership personally screwed me over. I also 100% believe even if there was a manager who existed who could change the direction of the franchise, Falvey would never have hired them because Falvey wants puppets. Still, from my perspective, it would have been nice to see a hire who wasn't an obvious crony.

    5 hours ago, PDX Twin said:

    I'm afraid you all are right. That will mean further estrange me from the club I've followed since 1961. Adios, Twins.

    Don't give up now.  Things are starting to get interesting.




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