Twins (Rojas) vs Guardians (Messick): 7/21/26, 5:40pm

[Mortimerkenny21]

Sucks we're not winning, looking grim when we lose 4 in a row. I'm in Denver for training. Watching the Rockies down 2-1 right now. Saw W. Castro hot a foul out. 

[Parfigliano]

2 minutes ago, Patzky said:

Anderson and Jeffers HR are our highlights.

2 in one game!!!

[Patzky]

Just now, mnfireman said:

Use as necessary, they are done....

Just in tine

[Wedman13]

32 minutes ago, Danchat said:

Well, it was fun while Kreidler was hitting over .700 OPS, but it was never going to last.

Blasphemy!

[HarmonK03]

1 minute ago, Western SD Fan said:

Don't take this as a callout.  I'm using your post to ask the question.  If this is what they are doing, why are prospects like Quick and Dasan Hill so highly touted?  I understand they may have the tools to be a ML pitcher, but if they don't get a chance to truly stretch out, then what is the point?

I get it, I am trying to figure it out.  I was in Cedar Rapids and saw Quick pitch, his command was not good, but the strike zone seemed to be tight.  But he threw three innings and they pulled in a close low scoring game.  That is where I saw the stat about the innings pitched.  And shortyly after that game they promoted Quick.  So I am not sure what their goal is anymore.

[The Great Hambino]

4 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

Yes with every pitcher from what I can see looking at the box scores.  Very seldom does anyone throw into the 5th inning and at 60-70 pitches they are pulled.  They are doing this at every level.  In Cedar Rapids their starters are averaging 3.1 innings per start which is the lowest in the Midwest league. I could understand for some younger guys, but I don't see them developing any starters to be ready to pitch up here as a starter.

But weren't Zebby and Abel and Prielipp getting further run in games when they were down there?

I think part of the problem is that pretty much everyone they'd been planning on really developing as a starter is either hurt or called up.  

Having said that, I wouldn't hate it if they were maybe more aggressive with letting true starting prospects go further into games as they get to the upper levels of the minors

[Patzky]

1 minute ago, Hubie29 said:

Should have used him before Paredes blew up and Rogers followed. 

Lose 3-2 or 5-2

[mrguy]

1 minute ago, Hubie29 said:

Should have used him before Paredes blew up and Rogers followed. 

letting him go for a 3rd inning when he didn't have his best stuff today was definitely pushing it, Rojas had a much shorter leash than he did.

[Hubie29]

Just now, Patzky said:

Lose 3-2 or 5-2

 

1 minute ago, Patzky said:

Lose 3-2 or 5-2

True. But that didn't have to happen either if Paredes wasnt allowed to load the bases. 

[Western SD Fan]

Smith spent more time jogging to the mound than he will going through the Twins lineup.

[HarmonK03]

Just now, The Great Hambino said:

But weren't Zebby and Abel and Prielipp getting further run in games when they were down there?

I think part of the problem is that pretty much everyone they'd been planning on really developing as a starter is either hurt or called up.  

Having said that, I wouldn't hate it if they were maybe more aggressive with letting true starting prospects go further into games as they get to the upper levels of the minors

They were throwing about 70 to 80 pitches last year IIRC.  This is why they haven't been able to go very long when getting up here.  I know there are injuries, but you have to have someone ready to step in if needed.   Paredes is a great example, they started to stretch him out and then they pulled back.

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

Season is slip sliding away...

[wesnewy]

Jeez what a catch

[Vanimal46]

He caught that?? Oh my 

[HarmonK03]

Just now, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

Season is slip sliding away...

Has slipped away.

[Permanent Twins Fan]

At least Anderson pitched well today. 

[RpR]

[Patzky]

Try try again.

[wesnewy]

twins season in a nutshell

[Hubie29]

I can't wait until baseball in July means something again. Hopefully it won't be too many years from now. 

[Mortimerkenny21]

7 minutes ago, Mortimerkenny21 said:

Sucks we're not winning, looking grim when we lose 4 in a row. I'm in Denver for training. Watching the Rockies down 2-1 right now. Saw W. Castro hot a foul out. 

Rockies are playing ball, up 4-2 now.

[jkcarew]

14 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

Play-off pipe dream over. No reason to start burning option years or keep Veterans that can help other teams. Trade off what they can and stock up on prospects...

If you sell the veterans, you WILL be burning option years. Still the right thing to do.

[IndyTwinsFan]

3 minutes ago, Permanent Twins Fan said:

At least Anderson pitched well today. 

Very small consolation. 

[Mike Sixel]

13 minutes ago, Hubie29 said:

Problem is management doesn't know what a good prospect is. How many are contributing from our big sell of last year? I know Abel is hurt and some aren't ready, but i am skeptical that they know how to judge talent. Other team GM's probably salivate when they know they can fleece us with "prospects".

Like Ryan and Duran? Or Bradley?

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

They're probably closer to a 70 win team than they are a .500 team. Shelton's done well. Several position players exceeded expectations. Ryan and Bradley have been great at times. It's just hard to stay above water for 162 games. Eventually you regress to the mean. Hopefully it's not happening here, but it likely is.

[wesnewy]

Ober and Taj up next. Hopefully, we get some good starts out of those guys because God knows we need a few good ones.

[Vanimal46]

1 minute ago, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

Season is slip sliding away...

Just like last year and 2024. 

[mrguy]

15 minutes ago, Hubie29 said:

Problem is management doesn't know what a good prospect is. How many are contributing from our big sell of last year? I know Abel is hurt and some aren't ready, but i am skeptical that they know how to judge talent. Other team GM's probably salivate when they know they can fleece us with "prospects".

Only a few of the guys they traded were actually "major league level" players at the time of the trade. Expecting every player received in a trade to immediately be contributing at the big league level kind of misses the goal of what a sell is actually supposed to do. The fact that even 4 of those players have already in some level played a role in the big league club is proof that these were good evaluations of talent with the only real debate being if it was worth dropping the guy they did for them.

[HarmonK03]

4 minutes ago, mrguy said:

Only a few of the guys they traded were actually "major league level" players at the time of the trade. Expecting every player received in a trade to immediately be contributing at the big league level kind of misses the goal of what a sell is actually supposed to do. The fact that even 4 of those players have already in some level played a role in the big league club is proof that these were good evaluations of talent with the only real debate being if it was worth dropping the guy they did for them.

You are saying Roden and Outman were good evaluations.  Is this a Falvey burner account.

[Patzky]

10 minutes ago, wesnewy said:

Ober and Taj up next. Hopefully, we get some good starts out of those guys because God knows we need a few good ones.

Maybe we can score a run.