Game Thread: Twins (Keuchel) v Diamondbacks (Gallen), 8/6/23 @ 1:10 CT

[RickOShea]

Did I just see a fan tie a plastic bag over their head?  I hope they don't pass out before the game ends.

[USAFChief]

3 minutes ago, mrtwinsfan said:

My Ballys feed is like 2  3  minutes behind reality

Maybe it's just you...since August 1st.

 

 

[rwilfong86]

And there goes the lead

[RpR]

Lead off walk, regardless of pitcher has been a curse to the Twins.

[CRF]

Thanks Emilio. 

[TwinsAlmostWin]

18 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

I feel like the Yankees, Mets, or Phillies, fanbase would boo Correa until he either played better or was forced to leave town.

 

Booing sometimes makes me feel better, but I have doubts it makes baseball players play better.

Sure, maybe CC doesn't care about boos. He's been dealing with them since the cheating scandal. Right now, I personally feel like he is just too comfortable making his $33MM a year and playing the way he does. If nothing changes, neither will he. Maybe if our fans put more pressure on him to perform, he would perform. Maybe if the Twins community overall perspective of Correa was negative, our GM/Coach would put more pressure on him to succeed given he is a main driver in ticket sales. My overall 10,000 foot view is that CC isn't accountable in anyway, shape, or form, for vastly underperforming given his contract, and that bothers me. 

[glunn]

Whew. Now let's hope that Gallen is fatigued..

[MMMordabito]

There's Pagan doing what Pagan does best!!

 

[stringer bell]

Good hitting by Gurriel. Issuing a walk to a 90% base stealer was the no-no. Obviously, I'd still rather see a better pitcher than Pagán in the seventh.

[RpR]

That soldier has PIPES.

[Parfigliano]

5 minutes ago, Tlaker said:

Going to be in Albuquerque next week…. first time ever in NM.

looks like it will be hot!

If you get a chance take the tram ride up Sandia

[mrtwinsfan]

Walk   wild  pitch,   was only matter of time

[stringer bell]

It would be nice to have a stolen base threat to run for Solano. Castro and Taylor are both in the game.

[Sutter50]

2 minutes ago, TwinsAlmostWin said:

Sure, maybe CC doesn't care about boos. He's been dealing with them since the cheating scandal. Right now, I personally feel like he is just too comfortable making his $33MM a year and playing the way he does. If nothing changes, neither will he. Maybe if our fans put more pressure on him to perform, he would perform. Maybe if the Twins community overall perspective of Correa was negative, our GM/Coach would put more pressure on him to succeed given he is a main driver in ticket sales. My overall 10,000 foot view is that CC isn't accountable in anyway, shape, or form, for vastly underperforming given his contract, and that bothers me. 

So booing a player and putting negative pressure on that player will force him to play better? Where in any walk of life does that work? 

[RpR]

Wallner must have taking running lessons from Jeffers.

[glunn]

Nice hustle by Wallner.

[stringer bell]

For a big man, Wallner can motor. That reminds me of Rochester native Michael Restovich. Wallner looks like he might be a better hitter (I hope).

[glunn]

1 minute ago, Sutter50 said:

So booing a player and putting negative pressure on that player will force him to play better? Where in any walk of life does that work? 

Opera?

[Schmoeman5]

9 minutes ago, TwinsAlmostWin said:

Sure, maybe CC doesn't care about boos. He's been dealing with them since the cheating scandal. Right now, I personally feel like he is just too comfortable making his $33MM a year and playing the way he does. If nothing changes, neither will he. Maybe if our fans put more pressure on him to perform, he would perform. Maybe if the Twins community overall perspective of Correa was negative, our GM/Coach would put more pressure on him to succeed given he is a main driver in ticket sales. My overall 10,000 foot view is that CC isn't accountable in anyway, shape, or form, for vastly underperforming given his contract, and that bothers me. 

If all you had to do is put pressure on a struggling superstar, he'd be hitting .300

[rwilfong86]

Different type of DP but rally killed nonetheless

[stringer bell]

Crazy game. Hard hit balls for outs, Lots of squibbers for hits.

[TwinsAlmostWin]

33 minutes ago, RickOShea said:

This is a forum, you better have some stats to back up your 'everyone' designation.

Fair enough. But I don't have stats for a "everyone" designation. I think it's apparent in the baseball industry that the markets I mentioned don't put up with BS, and the Twins market rolls over and just complains, no matter what happens. My point is if the fanbase held ownership more accountable, maybe things could be different. The fans are a primary source of revenue, and with that comes influence, but it doesn't seem like the Twins community wants to pull that lever. 

[Nine of twelve]

Guess that DP is the make-up play for the liner Castro nabbed earlier.

[TwinsAlmostWin]

35 minutes ago, glunn said:

Interesting take. I am wondering about examples of when this worked.

My main point is these fan bases hold their management accountable. 

I don't have specific examples, but I think both you and I can imagine how a disgruntled fanbase can influence management's decisions. 

[rwilfong86]

Another lead off walk. Argh

[stringer bell]

Okay, Julien made a bad misplay.

[Schmoeman5]

2 minutes ago, TwinsAlmostWin said:

Fair enough. But I don't have stats for a "everyone" designation. I think it's apparent in the baseball industry that the markets I mentioned don't put up with BS, and the Twins market rolls over and just complains, no matter what happens. My point is if the fanbase held ownership more accountable, maybe things could be different. The fans are a primary source of revenue, and with that comes influence, but it doesn't seem like the Twins community wants to pull that lever. 

Fan pressure never influenced management with decision making. They can see the results too. The only time pressure might speed up a decision is a case like Trevor Bauer. And the Dodgers acted quickly 

[rwilfong86]

Julien is an absolute defensive liability

[RpR]

 

Maybe some one in the bullpen can play second base.

[rwilfong86]

Just now, RpR said:

Mybe some one in the bullpen can play second base.

Bring Polanco in?