Game Thread: Twins (Ryan) v Red Sox (Garza), 6/22/23 @ 12:10 CT

[Jocko87]

Just now, RpR said:

When a team has become a sub-five hundred team, with the next team within spitting distance, you do not use your team as a quasi-AAA substitute.

Analytics is not blindly following the numbers.  It's knowing when to apply to numbers in the most effective ways.  In that way, fail. Let the computer manage if this is what we are going to do. 

Let the righty bat against a righty in the first inning and save the moves for a more important time if we are so concerned about the opener.  At least its not a completely verboten sbr matchup, the numbers support that for one at bat in question that would be a better option.  Stack the lineup differently if you need to.

I'm a defender of Rocco generally but this is dumb.

[sampleSizeOfOne]

2 minutes ago, wsnydes said:

If you're lucky, you may see Buxton's HR passing overhead any minute now.

Low earth orbit, eh?

Did mlb submit documentation to nasa that baseballs are designed to burn up on reentry, and so do not constitute a danger life and property?

[wsnydes]

Just now, sampleSizeOfOne said:

Low earth orbit, eh?

Did mlb submit documentation to nasa that baseballs are designed to burn up on reentry, and so do not constitute a danger life and property?

Low earth orbit, indeed.

I assume that NORAD picked up the ball before MLB notified anyone.

[USAFChief]

2 minutes ago, Jocko87 said:

Analytics is not blindly following the numbers.  It's knowing when to apply to numbers in the most effective ways.  In that way, fail. Let the computer manage if this is what we are going to do. 

Let the righty bat against a righty in the first inning and save the moves for a more important time if we are so concerned about the opener.  At least its not a completely verboten sbr matchup, the numbers support that for one at bat in question that would be a better option.  Stack the lineup differently if you need to.

I'm a defender of Rocco generally but this is dumb.

It's even worse than the other night when he pinch hit Solano for Kirilloff in like the 6th. I wagered at the time you'd see Solano against a RHer next AB.

I would have won the wager.

I'm a huge believer in platoon advantage.  But gaining the platoon advantage for 1 AB early generally makes no sense. You're just likely giving ut up later.

Use your platoon pinch hitter when it matters. And when it's not likely to be neutralized (or worse) later

 

[sampleSizeOfOne]

Do we have a fighting chance to get back to 500 anytime soon?

[wsnydes]

Just now, sampleSizeOfOne said:

Do we have a fighting chance to get back to 500 anytime soon?

That involves math...this is a game thread!

[USAFChief]

1 minute ago, sampleSizeOfOne said:

Do we have a fighting chance to get back to 500 anytime soon?

With the pitch clock, yes.

 

[Schmoeman5]

3 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

It's even worse than the other night when he pinch hit Solano for Kirilloff in like the 6th. I wagered at the time you'd see Solano against a RHer next AB.

I would have won the wager.

I'm a huge believer in platoon advantage.  But gaining the platoon advantage for 1 AB early generally makes no sense. You're just likely giving ut up later.

Use your platoon pinch hitter when it matters. And when it's not likely to be neutralized (or worse) later

 

Absolutely. And you're late

[USAFChief]

Just now, Schmoeman5 said:

Absolutely. And you're late

Damn day games. I don't normally get out of bed this early. 

[RickOShea]

I don't get to watch Rocco's post game pressers.  Is he asked about the reason by the writers, that let's say chief put out there.?

It's even worse than the other night when he pinch hit Solano for Kirilloff in like the 6th. I wagered at the time you'd see Solano against a RHer next AB.

I would have won the wager.

I'm a huge believer in platoon advantage.  But gaining the platoon advantage for 1 AB early generally makes no sense. You're just likely giving ut up later.

Use your platoon pinch hitter when it matters. And when it's not likely to be neutralized (or worse) later

[Schmoeman5]

1 minute ago, USAFChief said:

Damn day games. I don't normally get out of bed this early. 

I figured it was just you celebrating long into the night after last nights win

[SwainZag]

First player ever in the statcast era with two 460+ home runs in the same game.  Now that's wild.

[RickOShea]

Just now, RickOShea said:

I don't get to watch Rocco's post game pressers.  Is he asked about the reason by the writers, that let's say chief put out there.?

It's even worse than the other night when he pinch hit Solano for Kirilloff in like the 6th. I wagered at the time you'd see Solano against a RHer next AB.

I would have won the wager.

I'm a huge believer in platoon advantage.  But gaining the platoon advantage for 1 AB early generally makes no sense. You're just likely giving ut up later.

Use your platoon pinch hitter when it matters. And when it's not likely to be neutralized (or worse) later

Are the writers asking the tough questions, or just trying to keep everyone happy?

[wsnydes]

1 minute ago, USAFChief said:

Damn day games. I don't normally get out of bed this early. 

So, you're the Joe Mauer of the Game Thread?  No day game threads after night game threads?

[wsnydes]

I'll take the RBI by doink.

[RickOShea]

2 minutes ago, wsnydes said:

So, you're the Joe Mauer of the Game Thread?  No day game threads after night game threads?

 Or do like Mantle did on occasion, just skip bed altogether and go to the ballpark.

[Schmoeman5]

3 minutes ago, RickOShea said:

Are the writers asking the tough questions, or just trying to keep everyone happy?

When they do ask him a tough question he turns into a politician.  But he does get an occasional tough one

[SwainZag]

Were the bats just waiting until summer actually got here to get going?  

[Jocko87]

11 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

It's even worse than the other night when he pinch hit Solano for Kirilloff in like the 6th. I wagered at the time you'd see Solano against a RHer next AB.

I would have won the wager.

I'm a huge believer in platoon advantage.  But gaining the platoon advantage for 1 AB early generally makes no sense. You're just likely giving ut up later.

Use your platoon pinch hitter when it matters. And when it's not likely to be neutralized (or worse) later

 

That’s my main beef, if we are to use a batter for one at bat please make it a high leverage situation.  Benches are short. Lead off and third hitter of the game are pretty darn low leverage. 

I really like the lineup where he stacks handedness lower in the order so he can take advantage of a reliever 3 batters in a row.  That at least creates leverage.  If that time around the order is in the 6th I’m fine with that. 

[Craig Arko]

Just now, SwainZag said:

Were the bats just waiting until summer actually got here to get going?  

It was the Solstice.

[wsnydes]

9 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Damn day games. I don't normally get out of bed this early. 

 

2 minutes ago, RickOShea said:

 Or do like Mantle did on occasion, just skip bed altogether and go to the ballpark.

Yeah, @USAFChief, where's the dedication?!

[Jocko87]

10 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Damn day games. I don't normally get out of bed this early. 

What is it out there, 0600?

[Schmoeman5]

1 minute ago, wsnydes said:

 

Yeah, @USAFChief, where's the dedication?!

Severely lacking 

[SwainZag]

70 pitches thru 6 innings.  Could we possibly see 8 to 8+? innings from Joe today?

[sampleSizeOfOne]

And we didn't score in the fourth? Doom and gloom. Red Sox pitching has figured us out?

[RickOShea]

1 minute ago, SwainZag said:

70 pitches thru 6 innings.  Could we possibly see 8 to 8+? innings from Joe today?

Only when Porky does a Target field fly-by.

[wsnydes]

6 minutes ago, SwainZag said:

70 pitches thru 6 innings.  Could we possibly see 8 to 8+? innings from Joe today?

@Squirrel...JINX ALERT!

[chpettit19]

41 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I’m pretty iffy on these moves but I don’t hate them in this situation. This team could really use a game where they just bury the opponent in the first few innings and these moves made that more likely to happen.

I don't totally disagree with that, but I also think they could really use a game where they keep adding on throughout the game instead of going dormant for a 6 inning stretch with only 1 or 2 guys reaching base.

My bigger problem is who they pinch hit for. Quit taking out your hoped for future/newly current core! Take out Kepler or Castro. Quit turning 2 guys you clearly want to be key parts of your team into platoon only hitters already. You should never have to pinch hit for the top 4 or 5 guys in your lineup if you're truly a contending team. They continually hit for 2 of those guys. I hate it.

[USAFChief]

19 minutes ago, Schmoeman5 said:

I figured it was just you celebrating long into the night after last nights win

Damn night games. I don't normally stay up that late.

[USAFChief]

2 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

I don't totally disagree with that, but I also think they could really use a game where they keep adding on throughout the game instead of going dormant for a 6 inning stretch with only 1 or 2 guys reaching base.

My bigger problem is who they pinch hit for. Quit taking out your hoped for future/newly current core! Take out Kepler or Castro. Quit turning 2 guys you clearly want to be key parts of your team into platoon only hitters already. You should never have to pinch hit for the top 4 or 5 guys in your lineup if you're truly a contending team. They continually hit for 2 of those guys. I hate it.

Yeah...Julien and Kirilloff out...but there's Kepler.