Game Thread Twins vs. Red Sox 8/31/22 6:40 PM CDT

[Dave The Dastardly]

Fun With Numbers

The Twins are currently in 2nd Place in their division, 1.5 games back of Cleveland.

The BoSox are currently in last place in their division, 17 games back of New York.

Total Twins salary: $143,413,800

Total BoSox salary: $240,168,494

Conclusion: W-2’s don’t win games

 

Top Four Twins Hitters

Player    Ave.        OPS        Salary            OPS Point Return Per Dollar Invested
Arraez    .319        .809        $ 2,125,000        .0003807
Gordon   .276        .752        $    706,000        .0010652
Correa    .274        .788        $35,100,000        .0000225
Miranda  .274        .774        $     700,000        .0011057

Who’s Your Daddy?

 

Twins Top Rookie Relievers (50+ innings) vs. Garrett Whitlock

Player    Innings    Strikeouts    Whip        Tot. Salary    Cost Per Strikeout

Duran       56.2     73          .95        $   700,000              $  9,589
Jax            60        69        1.05        $   700,000              $ 10,145
Whitlock  71.1        72          .95        $1,920,000              $ 26,667

Moneyball anyone?

Starting Pitchers

Twins - Joe Ryan  10-6  3.65 ERA  113K

BoSox - Michael Wacha  9-1  2.53 ERA  69K

Lineups

Twins

Luis Arraez DH .319
Carlos Correa SS .274
Jose Miranda 1B .274
Max Kepler RF .228
Kyle Garlick LF .273
Gio Urshela 3B .268
Nick Gordon 2B .276
Gilberto Celestino CF .251
Sandy Leon C .135

Bosox

Tommy Pham LF .251
Alex Verdugo RF .284
Xander Bogaerts SS .306
Rafael Devers 3B .290
JD Martinez DH .270
Trevor Story 2B .227
Enrique Hernandez CF .217
Bobby Delbec 1B .213
Keven Plawecki C .204    

 

Summer's Gone. But I've always been a Fall Guy!

 

 

[h2oface]

Total Twins salary: $143,413,800

Total BoSox salary: $240,168,494

Conclusion: W-2’s don’t win games

 

Better Conclusion: W-2’s don’t necessarily win games

See link below for updates as of August 8,

 

10 Highest MLB Payrolls 2022

• Los Angeles Dodgers: $265,396,675. 2021 Payroll: $266,020,809. ...
• New York Mets: $261,273,320. ...
• New York Yankees: $251,889,255. ...
• Philadelphia Phillies: $242,215,746. ...
• San Diego Padres: $220,849,135. ...
• Boston Red Sox: $207,710,905. ...
• Chicago White Sox: $196,381,026. ...
• Houston Astros: $182,896,299.

The two SOX are the outliers this year.

But the Dodgers, Yankees, Mets, Phillies, Padres, Astros, and Braves might all beg to differ.

Baltimore and Cleveland are the outliers the other way this year, and Tampa, but they are not really an outlier as they do it all the time with low total salary.

Personally, I would bet on the spenders way more often than the parsimonious efforts.

 

https://boardroom.tv/mlb-team-payrolls-2022/

 

MLB regular season winning percentage vs. relative payroll, 1998-2021 combined (using Opening Day payrolls)... Warning: usage of non-zero baselines

[PDX Twin]

In case any of you missed it, this wonderful story aired yesterday on All Things Considered:

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/30/1120126846/the-story-behind-the-longest-baseball-game-ever

I would have been one of those still there at 4am probably (unless my wife had gone with me).

[h2oface]

Michael Wacha is pitching like he did as a rookie when he came on the scene strong toward the end of 2013 in August and September, and was a bright star in the playoffs (NLCS MVP) for St. Louis up until his last outing against Boston in the World Series. 

[PDX Twin]

Ryan's getting shaggy again. I hope it makes him pitch better.

[PDX Twin]

12 minutes ago, h2oface said:

Michael Wacha is pitching like he did as a rookie when he came on the scene strong toward the end of 2013 in August and September, and was a bright star in the playoffs (NLCS MVP) for St. Louis up until his last outing against Boston in the World Series. 

I'm hoping he'll Wacha buncha Twins tonight.

[BH67]

22 minutes ago, PDX Twin said:

In case any of you missed it, this wonderful story aired yesterday on All Things Considered:

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/30/1120126846/the-story-behind-the-longest-baseball-game-ever

I would have been one of those still there at 4am probably (unless my wife had gone with me).

The Pawtucket Red Sox, alas, are no longer.  Worcester, Mass. is now the home of Boston's AAA farm club.  I suspect that departure was bitterly felt by the Pawtucket faithful.

[rwilfong86]

Let's get the sweep tonight

[PDX Twin]

6 minutes ago, BH67 said:

The Pawtucket Red Sox, alas, are no longer.  Worcester, Mass. is now the home of Boston's AAA farm club.  I suspect that departure was bitterly felt by the Pawtucket faithful.

Bummer for those people! Are they the Worcester Wed Sox?

[Twins_Fan_For_Life]

[BH67]

4 minutes ago, PDX Twin said:

Bummer for those people! Are they the Worcester Wed Sox?

I just looked at their site and indeed, that are they.  They even have their version of the legendary "PawSox" nickname -- they're the "WooSox."  Ewww.

 

 

[h2oface]

44 minutes ago, PDX Twin said:

In case any of you missed it, this wonderful story aired yesterday on All Things Considered:

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/30/1120126846/the-story-behind-the-longest-baseball-game-ever

I would have been one of those still there at 4am probably (unless my wife had gone with me).

Fun listen! It's a shame, after all that, they finally suspended it anyway. I guess it was the longest even with the suspension and restart.. Plus, it is AAA and not MLB, which is..... something. Great productiojn with all the original broadcast bits.....

[USAFChief]

Kepler looks like he jams himself almost every AB. Late and off the hands.

 

 

[Tlaker]

3 hours ago, Dave The Dastardly said:

Fun With Numbers

The Twins are currently in 2nd Place in their division, 1.5 games back of Cleveland.

The BoSox are currently in last place in their division, 17 games back of New York.

Total Twins salary: $143,413,800

Total BoSox salary: $240,168,494

Conclusion: W-2’s don’t win games

 

Top Four Twins Hitters

Player    Ave.        OPS        Salary            OPS Point Return Per Dollar Invested
Arraez    .319        .809        $ 2,125,000        .0003807
Gordon   .276        .752        $    706,000        .0010652
Correa    .274        .788        $35,100,000        .0000225
Miranda  .274        .774        $     700,000        .0011057

Who’s Your Daddy?

 

Twins Top Rookie Relievers (50+ innings) vs. Garrett Whitlock

Player    Innings    Strikeouts    Whip        Tot. Salary    Cost Per Strikeout

Duran       56.2     73          .95        $   700,000              $  9,589
Jax            60        69        1.05        $   700,000              $ 10,145
Whitlock  71.1        72          .95        $1,920,000              $ 26,667

Moneyball anyone?

Starting Pitchers

Twins - Joe Ryan  10-6  3.65 ERA  113K

BoSox - Michael Wacha  9-1  2.53 ERA  69K

Lineups

Twins

Luis Arraez DH .319
Carlos Correa SS .274
Jose Miranda 1B .274
Max Kepler RF .228
Kyle Garlick LF .273
Gio Urshela 3B .268
Nick Gordon 2B .276
Gilberto Celestino CF .251
Sandy Leon C .135

Bosox

Tommy Pham LF .251
Alex Verdugo RF .284
Xander Bogaerts SS .306
Rafael Devers 3B .290
JD Martinez DH .270
Trevor Story 2B .227
Enrique Hernandez CF .217
Bobby Delbec 1B .213
Keven Plawecki C .204    

 

Summer's Gone. But I've always been a Fall Guy!

 

 

Just absolutely classic! Chad and Jeremy! 
Someone explain the difference between Peter and Gordon 

I will hang up and listen to WLS in Chicago’

 

[USAFChief]

Big trouble right here

 

[CRF]

Ryan up to 50 pitches already. Not gonna go deep into the game no matter what. 

[PDX Twin]

1 minute ago, USAFChief said:

Big trouble right here

 

Isn't it automatic that bases loaded with no one out means no runs?

[rwilfong86]

Bad decision, has to touch first base there.

[garn from vancouver]

why didn't miranda at least take first then fire to third?

[USAFChief]

Gotta step on first there, Jose. Still could've gotten the play at the plate 

[garn from vancouver]

great.

[mrtwinsfan]

Miranda, one step back, then look at 3rd . ouch

[rwilfong86]

Now losing 4-0. Gah.

[USAFChief]

Say goodnight. Wacha is too tough to spot em 4

 

[garn from vancouver]

if, in my humble opinion, miranda took first he still could have gotten the play at home and even with a home run we'd be at 2-0 not 4-0

[LVTwinsfan]

1 minute ago, garn from vancouver said:

why didn't miranda at least take first then fire to third?

Rookie out of position, he’s going to make some mistakes

[PDX Twin]

Pagan has been tutoring Ryan.

[rwilfong86]

1 minute ago, USAFChief said:

Gotta step on first there, Jose. Still could've gotten the play at the plate 

Should have gotten a double play there.

[RickOShea]

Can't let the past success go to our heads.

[garn from vancouver]

jesus h.