Nine of twelve Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Hello, and welcome to today's game thread. I'm going to use the time-honored five-point format. 1.) Wednesday and Thursday in Detroit provided us with two very disheartening losses. But after last nighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIZUS5rBtFEI think many of us have renewed hope. There is still plenty of time for us to catch and pass Cleveland. 2.) I'm not a stat-head, but in recent years I've come to look at WPA (Win Probability Added) as one of the most important ways to measure how good a player is because it places a higher importance on performance in key situations. However, I have come to think that this needs to be refined. Players who play for very good teams and players who play for very bad teams will come out undervalued using this statistic. If a player's team is often very far ahead or very far behind it becomes more difficult to generate a large WPA. A better way to determine a player's value is to determine the highest possible WPA and the lowest possible WPA for each situation and measure the actual outcome relative to those benchmarks. I suppose you could call it marginal WPA or something like that. I haven't done enough research to know whether anyone is generating such a statistic but I have to believe somebody else must have thought of this already. 3.) At this juncture there will be those who say they were told there would be no math. If someone has said that to you that person was either in denial, ignorant, or just plain lying. There was, is, and ever shall be math. I'd like to recommend the Numberphile videos on YouTube. I find them to be quite accessible to those of us with an interest in the subject. 4.) Today's Joe M. conversation: For those of you who think nothing was there, please do research on virtual particles. Or, alternatively, watch this: 5.) I want to express my admiration for journalists and others who work on deadline. As today's deadline for posting this intro was starting to draw near I received a text message from my editor wondering where it was. That little bit of added pressure provided inspiration for me to think of this, my fifth point for today's intro. So thank you to that person for inadvertently becoming my muse for today. Starting pitchers: Minnesota:Fernando Romero ®, 3-2, 3.92Cleveland:Carlos Carrasco ®, 8-4, 3.90 Lineups and batting orders: Minnesota:1. Joe Mauer (L) DH2. Eddie Rosario (L) LF3. Eduardo Escobar (S) 3B4. Logan Morrison (L) 1B5. Brian Dozier ® 2B6. Robbie Grossman (S) RF7. Max Kepler (L) CF8. Ehire Adrianza (S) SS9. Bobby Wilson ® C Cleveland:1. Francisco Lindor (S) DH2. Michael Brantley (L) LF3. Jose Ramirez (S) 3B4. Edwin Encarnacion ® 1B5. Jason Kipnis (L) 2B6. Yan Gomes ® C7. Lonnie Chisenhall (L) RF8. Tyler Naquin (L) CF9. Erik Gonzalez ® SS Expected game time weather conditions:Partly sunny, 80F, 64F dew point, west wind at 7mph, 0% precipitation probability
ashbury Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Try running both copies of the video, starting at different moments, and see whether the time lag results in genius or diabolical dissonance!
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Oh goody, Grossman in right... I wonder what misadventures he'll have today.
Nine of twelve Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Author Posted June 16, 2018 Try running both copies of the video, starting at different moments, and see whether the time lag results in genius or diabolical dissonance!You must have done that with my original post. I accidentally posted the same video twice. After I realized the error I corrected it. But I think I'll try what you suggested just for the experience of doing it.
ashbury Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 You must have done that with my original post. I accidentally posted the same video twice. After I realized the error I corrected it. But I think I'll try what you suggested just for the experience of doing it.The revised version of your post has the merit of not depending on random events when clicking the two play buttons.
Brandon Brooks Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Amusing that Lindor will make his first start of the year at DH after the two errors last night.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Nice job, NofT.That’s a good one. I still like 3/4, though.
OTPS300 Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Oh goody, Grossman in right... I wonder what misadventures he'll have today.If he would have been there last night, the Twins might have lost the game. Kepler has been struggling at the plate, but I would rather put up with his slump than watch another terrible throw from Grossman.
IndianaTwin Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Dear Eddie, Joe's still a little sluggish from the whole concussion thing. Please hit it a long way so that he can jog. Respectfully,IT
IndianaTwin Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Dear Eddie, Eduardo, Joe's still a little sluggish from the whole concussion thing. Please hit it a long way so that he can jog. Respectfully,IT
Brandon Brooks Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Another double for Double-E! This is the kind of start we needed!
Puckett34 Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Dear Eddie, Eduardo, Eds Joe's still a little sluggish from the whole concussion thing. Please hit it a long way so that he can jog. Respectfully,IT
Brandon Brooks Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Well, we haven't seen him in right yet today, but that was a heck of an at-bat for Grossman.
mrmpls Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Dozier, w.t.f. gotta pull the ball , dont think about moving the runners, nice hit Robbie
Brandon Brooks Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Kepler DH, didn't realize that. Kepler in CF, Mauer DH today. Also, Kepler!!!
sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Can't complain... Excepting the lack of complaints. 4 runs, 1 out. That is impressive ERA eh?
sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 4 runs, 3 outs. Did they catch up?
sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 And sorry about not correctly noting game time... I am not so much a wizard of speed and time (nor master of time and space, sorry to confuse the two) as i wish to be...
Brandon Brooks Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Well, that takes the wind out of the sails just a tad.
mickeymental Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 looks like that new batting order fixed everything. edit: almost everything. re-edit: a few things.
jun Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Bobby Wilson is so worthless offensively. 3 pitches and he's out, watching strike 3 right down the middle. Please get someone better to replace him.
Brandon Brooks Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 That's four homers allowed by Romero in his last 13 innings, versus just one homer allowed in his first 28.2.
jun Verified Member Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Romero decides to throw batting practice?
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