Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 Credit where credit is due. This is a bit on Deadspin that I find interesting and want to get your take on it. We also need something light hearted after the recent developments the last couple of days. Here are some things I wish would stay in 2017... Social Media: You would think a 27 year old would love and embrace all social media outlets. I do not. Instagram does nothing for me. Twitter is a cesspool of hate, anonymity, and terrible takes. Facebook is built on algorithms to keep your eyes and time on their website. They also know more about you then you know about you. And you're you! Hall of Fames: Or should I say Hall of Good? Many like to debate about players of the past and if they should earn a spot in the hall of fame. Many don't care one bit about it. Just let it go! Monopolies: There's been so many mergers of large companies to take control of an entire market. Take cable/internet options in your neighborhood... How many options do you have? I have 2 in a large city! Because of the lack of options, we're stuck paying the rates they set for neccessities we need. Baby pictures on Facebook: I'm in the meat grinder with this topic... I may be a close friend, or I may be a one time acquaintance. I don't need to see 500 pictures of little Sally! And I'm sure little Sally doesn't want 500 baby pictures of her online for all of mom and dad's 2,000 online acquaintances to see! What things do you want to remain in 2017?
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 I’d rather see photos of someone’s baby than their ****ing food.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 The Republican majority in Congress. Scientific illiteracy. All other forms of illiteracy. Faux news.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 Trigger happy policing. School shootings.
Badsmerf Verified Member Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 Kanye West (mostly kidding) partisan politicsGerrymanderingrestrictions to streaming sportsInability to stream local newsscience skepticism
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 The use of the word “perfect.”
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 The use of the word “perfect.”Perfect! Er, I mean, concur!
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2017 Author Posted December 30, 2017 The use of the word “perfect.”"Literally" can also be put on the back burner for a couple of years. I've literally heard it in every day conversation way too many times to count.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2017 Author Posted December 30, 2017 Faux news.Great one. Fake news, bigly, TREMENDOUS... They all need to go!
lecroy24fan Verified Member Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 Death threats because a field goal was missed.
Doomtints Verified Member Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 2017 set this country back and 2018 will probably be more of the same, but I have hopes for 2019 and beyond. Personally I just want to be fully recovered from my pulmonary embolism. I had what I thought was bronchitis but it just never went away, so from July through November I didn't feel well. In early November it got much worse (as in very painful in my back and front, on the right side) and we found out what it was. I'm too young to have such a thing normally, which is why it took so long for it to wear me down. Let me tell ya, PEs are bad news. I felt like I was 75 years old for about six weeks. The actual pain was only for a couple of days, but after that I was WIPED after walking just a couple of feet. Even doing the motion to sit down after standing was exhausting. I'm mostly recovered now, but I sometimes get unexpected reminders from my body that am overdoing it. The PE is unexplained, so I'm going with 2017 broke my heart.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 Death threats because a field goal was missed.or made
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 Credit where credit is due. This is a bit on Deadspin that I find interesting and want to get your take on it. We also need something light hearted after the recent developments the last couple of days. Here are some things I wish would stay in 2017...Social Media: You would think a 27 year old would love and embrace all social media outlets. I do not. Instagram does nothing for me. Twitter is a cesspool of hate, anonymity, and terrible takes. Facebook is built on algorithms to keep your eyes and time on their website. They also know more about you then you know about you. And you're you! Hall of Fames: Or should I say Hall of Good? Many like to debate about players of the past and if they should earn a spot in the hall of fame. Many don't care one bit about it. Just let it go! Monopolies: There's been so many mergers of large companies to take control of an entire market. Take cable/internet options in your neighborhood... How many options do you have? I have 2 in a large city! Because of the lack of options, we're stuck paying the rates they set for neccessities we need. Baby pictures on Facebook: I'm in the meat grinder with this topic... I may be a close friend, or I may be a one time acquaintance. I don't need to see 500 pictures of little Sally! And I'm sure little Sally doesn't want 500 baby pictures of her online for all of mom and dad's 2,000 online acquaintances to see! What things do you want to remain in 2017?A quick remark on the Social Media thing; posting on a site like this one is engaging in Social Media, or what did you think it was? Also, as with most things, one gets out of it what one puts into it. If you wish to improve it, improve.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 "Literally" can also be put on the back burner for a couple of years. I've literally heard it in every day conversation way too many times to count.I literally concur. Er, concur. (You literally had to know that was coming. It was literally just too perfect to pass up!)
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 Great one. Fake news, bigly, TREMENDOUS... They all need to go!News media literacy. https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/12/knowing-how-the-news-media-works-protects-people-from-conspiracy-theories/
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2017 Author Posted December 30, 2017 A quick remark on the Social Media thing; posting on a site like this one is engaging in Social Media, or what did you think it was? Also, as with most things, one gets out of it what one puts into it. If you wish to improve it, improve.I guess this website is considered social media in a way. And this is my favorite method of social media. My issue with Facebook/Twitter etc. is it isolates people more than connect them together. It's scary that some think Facebook is real life and need thumb ups from people to feel justified for their dinner they made that night. I've also literally* had friends ask why I didn't post happy birthday on their Facebook wall when I was seeing them in person that night. *Just for you Chi
jimmer Verified Member Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 Any news that doesn't kiss Trump's behind being called fake news.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Any news that doesn't kiss Trump's behind being called fake news.I'll throw a broader, but similar, net and just say "any news that is factual, researched, and objective being labeled 'fake news' because it doesn't fit the recipient's worldview". About a decade ago, I had several long conversations with my friends about where the world was going and I boiled it down to "there is going to be a rift in this society: those those can parse information and those who cannot". In the mid-2000s, we were becoming inundated with information. Most of it was crap, some of it was interesting, less of it was true. Unfortunately, this has become more real and damaging than I ever imagined it could be. We've gone past the point of disseminating information and arguing its merits, we're now at the point where people believe literally the most absurd things imaginable. It's true on both sides, yes, but one side is obviously more prone to this affliction.
KirbyDome89 Verified Member Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 I'll throw a broader, but similar, net and just say "any news that is factual, researched, and objective being labeled 'fake news' because it doesn't fit the recipient's worldview". About a decade ago, I had several long conversations with my friends about where the world was going and I boiled it down to "there is going to be a rift in this society: those those can parse information and those who cannot". In the mid-2000s, we were becoming inundated with information. Most of it was crap, some of it was interesting, less of it was true. Unfortunately, this has become more real and damaging than I ever imagined it could be. We've gone past the point of disseminating information and arguing its merits, we're now at the point where people believe literally the most absurd things imaginable. It's true on both sides, yes, but one side is obviously more prone to this affliction.Few things are more frustrating/exhausting than having to forage through search results and articles to find facts and data that haven't been presented to encourage leaning in any particular direction. I would make one small amendment though. Rather than one side being more prone to extremism, I would say they are lacking in either the desire or the ability to camouflage that position.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 Few things are more frustrating/exhausting than having to forage through search results and articles to find facts and data that haven't been presented to encourage leaning in any particular direction. I would make one small amendment though. Rather than one side being more prone to extremism, I would say they are lacking in either the desire or the ability to camouflage that position. A fair assessment, I think.
mikecgrimes Verified Member Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 Fake news means the same thing as media bias, difference is people seem to respond better to the term fake news. It's here to stay and the other side is gonna have to figure out how to counter it. Being based in fact has very little to do with it, although at times the facts are wrong.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 Keurig coffee makers in waiting rooms. If I ever visit the Twins Daily offices and am offered a Keurig cup of coffee while I wait to see a moderator, I'm turning right back around and leaving.
drjim Provisional Member Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 Fake news means the same thing as media bias, difference is people seem to respond better to the term fake news. It's here to stay and the other side is gonna have to figure out how to counter it. Being based in fact has very little to do with it, although at times the facts are wrong.Good luck. Big media companies are making more money now than they have in a while, and are as trusted as they've been in many years. I think more and more Americans are seeing the result of attempts at "fairness". Big media slants towards an educated, internationalist, urban perspective, because that's who works there. And they like to make money. Those two things won't change.
mikecgrimes Verified Member Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 Good luck. Big media companies are making more money now than they have in a while, and are as trusted as they've been in many years.I think more and more Americans are seeing the result of attempts at "fairness".Big media slants towards an educated, internationalist, urban perspective, because that's who works there. And they like to make money. Those two things won't change. I don't care if they make money, good for them. As for trusted it only matters who does or doesn't trust them, for example if black lives matter coverage has improved that # it is politically meaningless and can hide a potential lowering of trust where it politically matters most. The point is Republicans in my adult life have never had the upper hand in controlling the message. Remember Republican candidates voters and elected officials have been called racist no matter what, NO MATTER WHAT. If the media narrative is Donald Trump is racist, and we shout fake news and then you say we're stupid I'll take that.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted January 1, 2018 Author Posted January 1, 2018 Keurig coffee makers in waiting rooms. If I ever visit the Twins Daily offices and am offered a Keurig cup of coffee while I wait to see a moderator, I'm turning right back around and leaving.When archaeologists in 2250 sift through the rubble of our once great land, they'll find more Pumpkin Spice K cups than human remains...
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 Keurig coffee makers in waiting rooms.If I ever visit the Twins Daily offices and am offered a Keurig cup of coffee while I wait to see a moderator, I'm turning right back around and leaving.Cameron’s. They use cellulose based pods instead on plastic. And are local. https://www.cameronscoffee.com/filtered-single-serve
drjim Provisional Member Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 I don't care if they make money, good for them. As for trusted it only matters who does or doesn't trust them, for example if black lives matter coverage has improved that # it is politically meaningless and can hide a potential lowering of trust where it politically matters most. The point is Republicans in my adult life have never had the upper hand in controlling the message. Remember Republican candidates voters and elected officials have been called racist no matter what, NO MATTER WHAT. If the media narrative is Donald Trump is racist, and we shout fake news and then you say we're stupid I'll take that.People who are unapologetically racist think Trump is their man. I'll take their word for it and don't really care what the media says. That said, it's not exactly a tough narrative to sell. There are certainly all kinds of reasons to support Trump, but it can't really be denied that those that support Trump share their support with vile racists. Personally, Trump's racism is relatively low on the list of reasons I don't like him. So if a media entity wants to keep pushing that narrative, I'll go somewhere else. It's not like media exists outside of market concerns. They have great incentive to deliver what people want in the way that they want it. If most media was so slanted, I would think there would be more demand for a more serious conservative outlet. I suspect conservatives work and manipulate the mainstream media just fine.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 Cameron’s. They use cellulose based pods instead on plastic. And are local.https://www.cameronscoffee.com/filtered-single-serveNice to know this!
KirbyDome89 Verified Member Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 People who are unapologetically racist think Trump is their man. I'll take their word for it and don't really care what the media says. That said, it's not exactly a tough narrative to sell.There are certainly all kinds of reasons to support Trump, but it can't really be denied that those that support Trump share their support with vile racists.Personally, Trump's racism is relatively low on the list of reasons I don't like him. So if a media entity wants to keep pushing that narrative, I'll go somewhere else.It's not like media exists outside of market concerns. They have great incentive to deliver what people want in the way that they want it. If most media was so slanted, I would think there would be more demand for a more serious conservative outlet. I suspect conservatives work and manipulate the mainstream media just fine.Agreed, Trump undoubtedly does draw support from unsavory groups. Although, I think this is often a starting point for mis-associations that lead to write ups either side would characterize as "fake news." The logic flows along the lines of "If candidate A has support from group X, then he/she also must endorse group X, and subsequently everybody who voted for candidate A supports those views as well, with candidate A serving as their proxy." It's maddening that it's so easy to find any number of articles where these logical leaps are made. Not everybody seems to value the detached approach of your OP, and that's unfortunate. Frankly one of the things I find most embarrassing is that we have an individual in office, who seemingly has made it his mission to outdo himself in an effort to provide opportunity for criticism but apparently that isn't enough. We're still forced to cross reference and filter critiques that come across our screens. Seriously, it's beyond low hanging fruit; the guy is handing it to us on a platter but we're still dealing with revisions, retractions, and resignations because of unfounded reporting. It's unreal. Lazy/unethical journalism and personal agendas are very real, very dangerous, and very serious issues. It's too bad that the idea of "fake news," has become a parody of itself.
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