Saturday's starter in double header

[Otto von Ballpark]

Berardino reports it will be Felix Jorge

 

[King]

Jorge as per Berardino.

[yarnivek1972]

Hip hip, Jorge!

[drjim]

Go get em Felix. Didn't see that one coming.

[Mike Sixel]

That is unexpected. I literally have no way to predict this front office.

[Rosterman]

Hey, at least he's on the 40-man! Give him exposure. Remember, Jorge and Romero will only throw so many pitches this summer...maybe more than we think which will mean no September call-up.

 

[goulik]

Wow Jorge! Didn't see that one as a real possibility yet. Hope it goes well!!

[AlwaysinModeration]

Nice news that it will be Jorge. I'm not sure how optimistic we should be about his spot start, straight out of AA. Realistically, let's hope for five innings, 3 or fewer runs.

 

How good would he have to pitch to get consideration for a second start?

 

I'm also still surprised Jorge didn't get taken in the Rule 5 draft this year - any team could have nabbed him.

[Otto von Ballpark]

I'm also still surprised Jorge didn't get taken in the Rule 5 draft this year - any team could have nabbed him.

Jorge wasn't eligible for Rule 5 this past winter, because he was added to our 40-man roster.

 

He was eligible the previous winter (December 2015) but of course his experience was pretty minimal at that time.

[Bill Brown69]

While we know with almost certainty that this is a temp move, lets hope he does well enough that his send down is to Rochester. With the long line of AAAA and castoff starters we have run out there this year it would be great to start the year with a healthy Jorge, Gonsalves and Romero in Rochester next year.

[ThejacKmp]

 

Nice news that it will be Jorge. I'm not sure how optimistic we should be about his spot start, straight out of AA. Realistically, let's hope for five innings, 3 or fewer runs.

How good would he have to pitch to get consideration for a second start?

I'm also still surprised Jorge didn't get taken in the Rule 5 draft this year - any team could have nabbed him.

 

Well, he has to go back down no matter what so there's nothing he can do to earn a second start.

 

Maybe if he pitched a no-hitter the Twins would feel like they have to bring him back up in a week? Even then it seems unlikely - they're not going to risk wrecking prospects long term for a short term gain.

[Mike Sixel]

 

Well, he has to go back down no matter what so there's nothing he can do to earn a second start.

 

Maybe if he pitched a no-hitter the Twins would feel like they have to bring him back up in a week? Even then it seems unlikely - they're not going to risk wrecking prospects long term for a short term gain.

 

And we know it would wreck him how?

 

People are so certain that "rushing" people "wrecks/ruins/kills their career".

 

I'm not saying we know, but there seem to be a lot of people that do know that promoting Gonsalves to AAA or Jorge to AAA or whatever would "rush" and "ruin" them.....

[gunnarthor]

I don't think there's anything wrong with giving a AA arm a spot start in the majors. Pretty exciting for the guy. Good luck to him.

[yarnivek1972]

 

Well, he has to go back down no matter what so there's nothing he can do to earn a second start.

 

Maybe if he pitched a no-hitter the Twins would feel like they have to bring him back up in a week? Even then it seems unlikely - they're not going to risk wrecking prospects long term for a short term gain.

 

That's not entirely accurate.  There is no rule that says that the 26th man HAS to be the guy sent down after a double header.  It could be someone else.  Kyle Gibson, for example.  Problematically, however, there would be no one to make Gibson's scheduled start on Tuesday.  Could be Matt Belisle though.

[Squirrel]

That is unexpected. I literally have no way to predict this front office.

For now I'm thinking it's a good thing (until I know for sure otherwise) considering the predictability we had with past GM.

[Squirrel]

Nice news that it will be Jorge. I'm not sure how optimistic we should be about his spot start, straight out of AA. Realistically, let's hope for five innings, 3 or fewer runs.

 

How good would he have to pitch to get consideration for a second start?

 

I'm also still surprised Jorge didn't get taken in the Rule 5 draft this year - any team could have nabbed him.

. I think it's too much to expect a win but I like that he's getting a look, both from our side and from his.

[drjim]

I don't think there's anything wrong with giving a AA arm a spot start in the majors. Pretty exciting for the guy. Good luck to him.

Absolutely. You do hope he doesn't blow up, but even if he does he can recover without much problem.

 

I still would have used Romero, but I also am in favor of Romero getting some run in the bullpen down the stretch.

[Steve Lein]

Pleasantly surprised that they are bringing up Jorge for the start.

 

However, of the three guys at AA, he's by far the most hittable and I think he is the one who needs AAA development the most. 40-man roster probably played a big part, but hopefully he's sent to Rochester when it's all said and done. 

 

 

 

 

[beckmt]

Jorge will probably be the 26th man, no roster move needed.  He will be up and then gone.  No harm done, but I wonder how his stuff will play at the major league level.  

[drjim]

Anyone want to guess his line, I say:

 

4.2ip, 4h, 3r, 3bb, 2k

[Oldgoat_MN]

I'm more concerned with how Romero feels about this.

Does he have a right to feel slighted?

[yarnivek1972]

 

I'm more concerned with how Romero feels about this.

Does he have a right to feel slighted?

 

It is a bit odd.  Jorge's most recent couple starts weren't particularly strong.  6 IP, 9 H, 5 ER,1 BB, 4 K in one.  7 2/3 IP, 11 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 7 K  in the most recent.  Doesn't exactly scream "I'm ready for MLB" to me.  

 

Meanwhile, Romero's two most recent starts have been arguably his best of the year.  7 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, 7 K followed by 7 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 6 K.

 

But then, a lot of the moves made by Falvine this year have seemed a bit odd.  No reason why this one should be different.

[lecroy24fan]

Berardino says that Gee might be the 26th man so Jorge might be coming up at the expense of another roster spot.

[Otto von Ballpark]

I wonder if part of it is they want to further evaluate Jorge before a potential trade.  Romero's likely not going anywhere unless they make a really big splash, which is doubtful.  (Eventually, Jorge might find himself on the 40-man bubble earlier too, but probably not this year.)

[yarnivek1972]

Berardino says that Gee might be the 26th man so Jorge might be coming up at the expense of another roster spot.

Could be Vargas. Then Jorge back down afterward. Perhaps for another pitcher for Sunday or for Granite or even Garver for a cup of coffee before the Break.

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Berardino says that Gee might be the 26th man so Jorge might be coming up at the expense of another roster spot.

Here's the line, last paragraph of the Jorge story:

http://www.twincities.com/2017/06/29/twins-miguel-sano-invited-to-all-star-home-run-derby/

 

 

Dillon Gee, who threw 47 pitches in a three-inning start on Wednesday for Rochester, could be summoned as the 26th man to augment Saturday’s bullpen.

 

Makes some sense.  The 26th man is available for both games, so it doesn't make too much sense to use the spot on a starter.  Also, the 26th man can be recalled again within 10 days, which is not likely a concern with Jorge.  (Not that we want Gee back that soon either, though!)

 

My guess is they are looking to drop a reliever for Pressly soon anyway.  Depending on how tonight goes (or even Saturday's game 1?), they could drop that reliever, recall Jorge for the start, and then option Jorge and recall Pressly for Sunday (or even Saturday's game 2, if Jorge started game 1).  (Hopefully dropping Belisle, but more likely optioning Busenitz, or possibly Hildenberger instead pending further results. Boshers seems safe for now, given their recent reliance on him.)

 

If it was Belisle, it would also open up a 40-man spot, so it wouldn't have to be Pressly coming back yet.  Jake Reed? John Curtiss?  Those would be fun.

 

EDIT: Oh yeah, the Twins are still running a 13 man staff, and Adrianza just started a rehab assignment at AAA. He'll be eligible to return Monday, and I'm guessing we will go back down to 12 pitchers then.

[Seth Stohs]

 

I'm more concerned with how Romero feels about this.

Does he have a right to feel slighted?

 

I would hope not... They likely talked a lot about this. My guess is Ivan Arteaga and Jake Mauer were pretty much asked which one they should call up for a spot start, which one was most ready. Obviously there have been other evaluaters there as well. Romero shouldn't feel slighted at all. If he does, that says a lot more about him than anything else. 

[Mike Sixel]

 

I would hope not... They likely talked a lot about this. My guess is Ivan Arteaga and Jake Mauer were pretty much asked which one they should call up for a spot start, which one was most ready. Obviously there have been other evaluaters there as well. Romero shouldn't feel slighted at all. If he does, that says a lot more about him than anything else. 

 

to be clear, you wouldn't feel disappointment you weren't called up? I would. No matter what anyone says, since this would be my dream, not yet come true.

[Mr. Brooks]

I would hope not... They likely talked a lot about this. My guess is Ivan Arteaga and Jake Mauer were pretty much asked which one they should call up for a spot start, which one was most ready. Obviously there have been other evaluaters there as well. Romero shouldn't feel slighted at all. If he does, that says a lot more about him than anything else.

I guess I go the other way. I'd be disappointed and suspicious if Romero DOESN'T feel a bit slighted. Anyone in his shoes that has a competitive fire and self confidence should.

[Seth Stohs]

 

to be clear, you wouldn't feel disappointment you weren't called up? I would. No matter what anyone says, since this would be my dream, not yet come true.

 

Sure, he can be disappointed. No problem with that. He's also likely happy for Felix Jorge. I mean, there's probably many emotions in such a thing... but I don't think that the disappointment should get to any extent that it effects him, his mindset or his pitching. Disappointed is fine, but slighted - in my opinion of the definition - is a bit much...