Pius Jefferson Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 My guess would be the Twins President of Baseball Operations would be similar in title to Epstein with the Cubs and Friedman with the Dodgers.
operation mindcrime Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Dear merciful God please let this be true!!! glunn 1
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 That one's gonna get walked back, I'm pretty sure. It depends of course on the timing of hiring the new guy in the big chair. If it's too late in the off-season, it may be expedient to keep Molitor for another season rather than shop the remainder bins.I think you're probably right, I just found the whole situation unnecessary. glunn 1
ashbury Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 The job title ain't what's gonna matter. It's the vision of the new guy. Platoon, Riverbrian, glunn and 6 others 9
glunn Community Moderator Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Arguably, the Cardinals have the best GM in MLB. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2401663-ranking-mlbs-top-10-general-managers/page/12 I would guess that he might have a lieutenant who is ready for a promotion. I hope that someone takes a close look at bringing in someone from the Cardinals for one of the open positions. nicksaviking and Vanimal46 2
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Agree Glunn. I would zero in on about 5-6 organizations and they would be top of the list. howieramone2, glunn and Vanimal46 3
Rosterman Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 It's not the organizational meetings that is the Big IF on the horizon, it is the end of the World Series and then the Winter Meetings. Something has to be in place by then. If you are looking for a Director of Baseball Operations/President, then you are looking for a GM, probably two assistant GM's, a Director of Player Personal, a Director of Scouting and a Director of Minor League Operations, not to mention a Field Manager and then his coaching staff. That's an awful lot of jobs that could have major turnover in the organization on the side of baseball operations, and the trickle down could also come to all the minor league coordinator, manager and coaching positions, too. Whew! Broker, glunn and Riverbrian 3
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Arguably, the Cardinals have the best GM in MLB. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2401663-ranking-mlbs-top-10-general-managers/page/12 I would guess that he might have a lieutenant who is ready for a promotion. I hope that someone takes a close look at bringing in someone from the Cardinals for one of the open positions.I'd be interested in Cardinals employees. However I'd also like to think they could offer Mozeliak himself the PoBO gig. It would be a promotion by title and perhaps after seeing contemporaries Freidman, Epstien and Beane get the promotion, he'd be interested too. Of course the money would have to be right. glunn 1
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 The job title ain't what's gonna matter. It's the vision of the new guy.Or how he/she executes that vision. Riverbrian and glunn 2
The Wise One Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Someone from a "great" organization might not be so great themselves. See Luhnow. Hoyer did nothing special while in San Diego, yet he looks real smart in Chicago. Cherrington. Those who want Cherrington please explain the Boston pitching staffs 0f 2014 and 2015 ken 1
glunn Community Moderator Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 I'd be interested in Cardinals employees.However I'd also like to think they could offer Mozeliak himself the PoBO gig. It would be a promotion by title and perhaps after seeing contemporaries Freidman, Epstien and Beane get the promotion, he'd be interested too.Of course the money would have to be right.I like your thinking on this. It seems to me like he would be a great investment based on his track record.
old nurse Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 I'd be interested in Cardinals employees.However I'd also like to think they could offer Mozeliak himself the PoBO gig. It would be a promotion by title and perhaps after seeing contemporaries Freidman, Epstien and Beane get the promotion, he'd be interested too.Of course the money would have to be right.Promotion by title, not duties. Unless the DeWitt family goes into money saving mode, there is no reason to switch to a smaller market by revenue.
Platoon Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Not overly surprised by this, I think the mere fact they let Ryan go was a pretty good indication that a major change was on the way. Couple that with the fact they hired a head hunting agency to seek the best candidates, along with the fact this is a growing trend in baseball and it all adds up. It's very positive news, although it really furthers my confusion over the commitment the Pohlad's made to Mollie. I can't imagine a President of Baseball Ops is going to be overly pleased by being handed his top field general. The obvious solution: Ladies and Gentlemen, your new Pres. of Baseball Operations, Paul Molitor! twinsnorth49 and ashbury 2
Platoon Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 The job title ain't what's gonna matter. It's the vision of the new guy. THANK YOU! Two bad execs, do no a good one make. diehardtwinsfan 1
ashbury Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 AND how he/she executes that vision.FTFY. One is certainly a prerequisite for the other. I want no part of someone executing a flawed vision flawlessly. twinsnorth49 1
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 In first with my prediction: new PBO, Rob Antony.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Good Move Should have been done right away though. I still believe that a Prez of Baseball OP should have been hired immediately and before Terry Ryan was fired. Oh Well... It appears that someone is coming in with new ideas and in position to make organization wide assessments and that is good news. I hope we don't wait too long since it should have been done yesterday. HitInAPinch 1
Platoon Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 In first with my prediction: new PBO, Rob Antony. 18 min late my friend! Lol USAFChief and ashbury 2
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 In first with my prediction: new PBO, Rob Antony. Why do you hate us so much? Platoon, glunn, ashbury and 1 other 4
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 18 min late my friend! LolI'm only half joking. Platoon and glunn 2
ashbury Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 I'm only half joking.OK, so 36 minutes late. USAFChief and glunn 2
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 FTFY. One is certainly a prerequisite for the other. I want no part of someone executing a flawed vision flawlessly.Touche ashbury 1
Platoon Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 I'm only half joking. Surely you realize I knew that know you were. USAFChief 1
HitInAPinch Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 I think your guy would be Chaim Bloom, Rays assistant GM. He's been working for them in various roles since 2005. I like it. Moved up through the TB hierarchy, has been mentioned as an interview candidate last year and is about 33 yrs old. Used to be a writer for BR? Now that the Twins have chosen to restructure the front office with a new position of "presidential-level executive who will have authority over all baseball decisions yet be freed from the day-to-day particulars of the GM job." where would you want Bloom? The new position with the WAY TO LONG TITLE or GM?
HitInAPinch Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Surely you realize I knew that know you were. stop calling him Shirley........ Couldn't resist Platoon, USAFChief and twinsnorth49 3
HitInAPinch Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) Good Move Should have been done right away though. I still believe that a Prez of Baseball OP should have been hired immediately and before Terry Ryan was fired. Oh Well... It appears that someone is coming in with new ideas and in position to make organization wide assessments and that is good news. I hope we don't wait too long since it should have been done yesterday. I bet when Jim Pohlad started all this in motion, he was really only looking for a GM. Then he hired Korn Ferry and Korn Ferry advised him of the new baseball department structure being used today. Organizational change takes time. I think this is a big step in the right direction. I'd bet my cat on it. Edited August 27, 2016 by HitInAPinch Vanimal46, Riverbrian, twinsnorth49 and 2 others 5
Platoon Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 At one time, I would have had a list of untouchable players, mostly prospects. But I have begun to wonder if the entire roster of players at all levels has to be on the table to straighten this out. One of the following two statements have to be true to explain the pitching, and possibly the development of field prospects as well. A) The Twins scouting and drafting depts are absolutely clueless, and have managed to draft high, and fail. The coaching staff has no idea how to develop promising talent into MLB players. You can be a around the bush, and make excuses against either argument, but the bottom line is its almost impossible to achieve this level of futilely, for this long, and this consistently! peterb18 1
Pardon My Dinger Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 You guys know this means Antony is the GM for the long haul, right? How does that make you feel?
Platoon Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 You guys know this means Antony is the GM for the long haul, right? How does that make you feel? A little like Edward John Smith! peterb18 and Pardon My Dinger 2
Oxtung Verified Member Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 I don't understand the enthusiasm being shown here. The PoBO will still be hired by Pohlad and St. Peter and therefore will follow in the typical Twins baseball mold regardless if hired from within or without. peterb18 1
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