Article: Twins Looking To Hire President Of Baseball Operations

[Platoon]

I don't understand the enthusiasm being shown here. The PoBO will still be hired by Pohlad and St. Peter and therefore will follow in the typical Twins baseball mold regardless if hired from within or without.

This is the TD! There is no optimism. There is only wishful thinking, interspersed with bits of gallows humor! There are a few who put forth a faux happy face, but they are dwindling faster than our chance for the second WC slot!

[Craig Arko]

This is the TD! There is no optimism. There is only wishful thinking, interspersed with bits of gallows humor! There are a few who put forth a faux happy face, but they are dwindling faster than our chance for the second WC slot!

You can build a wall around optimism but you can't make us pay for it.

[Kwak]

The decision to have a PBO likely based on two reasons: a fancy title with a big salary is required to get a big name and respectability and for said person to be a figurehead so the fraternity can be kept (nearly) unchanged to do the "real baseball work". Sadly, the fraternity needs to be dismissed to build a strong franchise.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

The decision to have a PBO likely based on two reasons: a fancy title with a big salary is required to get a big name and respectability and for said person to be a figurehead so the fraternity can be kept (nearly) unchanged to do the "real baseball work". Sadly, the fraternity needs to be dismissed to build a strong franchise.

Yeah, that makes sense. Spend a bunch of money on a consultant firm, spend more money for a figurehead, spend even more money on a new GM, and then continue operating business as normal.

 

C'mon guys, the negativity and presumption on this forum in the past week has become intolerable.

 

Let the process play out, then form an opinion. This is good news, there's no need to **** all over it. If the Pohlads flub the process from this point forward, I'll be right there beside you, pitchfork in hand but there's no indication they're going to flub the process other than wild speculation and blinding resentment toward past actions.

[jimmer]

Yeah, that makes sense. Spend a bunch of money on a consultant firm, spend more money for a figurehead, spend even more money on a new GM, and then continue operating business as normal.

 

C'mon guys, the negativity and presumption on this forum in the past week has become intolerable.

 

Let the process play out, then form an opinion. This is good news, there's no need to **** all over it. If the Pohlads flub the process from this point forward, I'll be right there beside you, pitchfork in hand but there's no indication they're going to flub the process other than wild speculation and blinding resentment toward past actions.

cant like this post enough

[Rosterman]

 

Yeah, that makes sense. Spend a bunch of money on a consultant firm, spend more money for a figurehead, spend even more money on a new GM, and then continue operating business as normal.

 

C'mon guys, the negativity and presumption on this forum in the past week has become intolerable.

 

Let the process play out, then form an opinion. This is good news, there's no need to **** all over it. If the Pohlads flub the process from this point forward, I'll be right there beside you, pitchfork in hand but there's no indication they're going to flub the process other than wild speculation and blinding resentment toward past actions.

So true. If the process doesn't work out, then the Twins have a lot of empty seats. But, hey, that 45% of their revenue that they don't spend on 40-man salaries has to be spent somewhere.

[Platoon]

Yeah, that makes sense. Spend a bunch of money on a consultant firm, spend more money for a figurehead, spend even more money on a new GM, and then continue operating business as normal.

 

C'mon guys, the negativity and presumption on this forum in the past week has become intolerable.

 

Let the process play out, then form an opinion. This is good news, there's no need to **** all over it. If the Pohlads flub the process from this point forward, I'll be right there beside you, pitchfork in hand but there's no indication they're going to flub the process other than wild speculation and blinding resentment toward past actions.

Of course they aren't spending that amount of money for giggles! Nor do I care how much they spend. Money doesn't make good decisions, people do. I don't think anyone here wants them to fail. I certainly don't. The last 21 years have removed any possibility of giving them the benefit of the doubt. And that fact scares many. They get this wrong, and with the history of loyalty in this orginisation, you'll be waving that pitchfork while you are on social security!

[Oxtung]

 

Yeah, that makes sense. Spend a bunch of money on a consultant firm, spend more money for a figurehead, spend even more money on a new GM, and then continue operating business as normal.

 

C'mon guys, the negativity and presumption on this forum in the past week has become intolerable.

 

Let the process play out, then form an opinion. This is good news, there's no need to **** all over it. If the Pohlads flub the process from this point forward, I'll be right there beside you, pitchfork in hand but there's no indication they're going to flub the process other than wild speculation and blinding resentment toward past actions.

 

I fail to see how your sarcasm helps move this discussion forward Brock.  Your opinion of what the future will entail has no more validity than mine or any other on this forum.  To pretend that you and only you have a justifiable vision of the future is insulting.

[Comrade Bork]

I like to see this because it's not just the Twins that are a mess, the minor league teams are also failing to get players ready for the Majors despite being competitive in their respective leagues. This way the GM can focus solely on making the Major League team better, while the new president can focus on the system as a whole. Divide and conquer.

[LaBombo]

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[Brock Beauchamp]

I fail to see how your sarcasm helps move this discussion forward Brock. Your opinion of what the future will entail has no more validity than mine or any other on this forum. To pretend that you and only you have a justifiable vision of the future is insulting.

What sarcasm? And what did I predict?

 

Seriously, the entire point of my post was that I didn't predict anything at all and will withhold judgment until SOMETHING HAPPENS.

[Teflon]

Being on record with a the most dire view of how things will unfold is a prerequisite to the later "I told you so" which, as we all know, is the penultimate of posts.

[spinowner]

 

I don't understand the enthusiasm being shown here. The PoBO will still be hired by Pohlad and St. Peter and therefore will follow in the typical Twins baseball mold regardless if hired from within or without.

I disagree with this.

I think Pohlad's remarks about total system failure were exactly what he thought. With that in mind he and St. Peter have done exactly what they should have done in seeking expert advice on this matter and working to create a new system. They have now taken the first step by restructuring the top levels of operation of the baseball side of the organization and have proceeded to the next step by identifying candidates to fill the top position there. Once the POBO is in place I think s/he will have a lot of freedom to decide how the middle and lower levels of baseball management will be structured and who will be chosen to fill those roles.

I wouldn't describe myself as enthusiastic about this but more reassured that a thorough, proper approach to solving the problem appears to have been put in place.

Edited August 27, 2016 by spinowner

[peterb18]

This should come as a relief to all of us who were worried that Jim Pohlad didn't have the baseball acumen to make the right call.

 

This is a quote from above......Jim Pohlad baseball acumen? Really?

[tobi0040]

I agree with Brock's theme. We really need to wait this out.

 

Had someone asked me on May 15th what needs to happen it would have started with:

 

1 - Fire Terry Ryan

 

2 - Put a third party in charge of the search and to provide general feedback

 

3 - Hire a baseball operations head

 

They can still screw this up a few ways. They could hire an external adult supervision type and promote Antony to GM. Or they could promote St Peter to manage an external GM so the boat does not rock enough. Or simply make a bad hire or two.

 

But let's wait and get mad IF one of those things happen.

[twinsnorth49]

“Cynicism masquerades as wisdom, but it is the farthest thing from it. Because cynics don’t learn anything. Because cynicism is a self-imposed blindness, a rejection of the world because we are afraid it will hurt us or disappoint us.”
― Stephen Colbert

[Brock Beauchamp]

“Cynicism masquerades as wisdom, but it is the farthest thing from it. Because cynics don’t learn anything. Because cynicism is a self-imposed blindness, a rejection of the world because we are afraid it will hurt us or disappoint us.”

― Stephen Colbert

Yes. Cynicism is easy. If you never give anything, you'll never lose anything. The world will ultimately conform to your viewpoint because discarding anything positive and laying in wait for the negative that inevitably comes will prove you right at some point.