Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 On Tuesday, many returned to work after celebrating Independence Day on Monday. Of course, the Twins and their minor league affiliates all had to work. They were all back in action again on Tuesday. Continue reading below for an update on everything that happened throughout the organization.Let’s start with a couple of pieces of news and transactions:Brad Hartong was promoted from Cedar Rapids to Ft. Myers.Luis Martinez was returned to the GCL from Ft. Myers.Jaylin Davis was promoted from Elizabethton to Cedar Rapids.The Kernels also activated catcher Kevin Garcia. OF Austin Diemer was placed on the disabled list.Wander Javier re-aggravated his hamstring and will miss more time.RED WINGS REPORTRochester 2, Buffalo 8Box Score It was a rough night for the Red Wings. Andrew Albers started and recorded just six outs. He faced six batters in the third inning without recording an out. In all, he gave up four runs on five hits and four walks. He struck out three. Nick Greenwood came in and gave up two runs on five hits over the next 3.1 innings. He walked two and struck out one. Sean Burnett gave up just a hit over 1.1 innings. JT Chargois gave up two runs on three hits over 1.1 innings. He struck out two. Alex Wimmers pitched a scoreless ninth. Darin Mastroianni went 3-4. Adam Brett Walker went 2-4 with his 12th double. Buck Britton added his 12th double. CHATTANOOGA CHATTERChattanooga 1, Birmingham 9Box Score Ryan Eades was terrific in June, but his first start in July didn’t go well. He gave up six runs on eight hits over four innings. He walked three and struck out three. Corey Williams came on and threw three shutout innings. He walked two and struck out two.Luke Westphal then gave up three runs on five hits and a walk over the final two innings. He struck out four. Mitch Garver went 1-1 with two walks and his 16th double. Dalton Hicks went 2-4. Levi Michael went 1-2 with a walk. MIRACLE MATTERSFt. Myers 14, St. Lucie 0Box Score The Miracle had Felix Jorge on the mound, so they probably didn’t need too much run support. However, the offense came through big time in this 20-hit effort. Trey Vavra went hitless, but all of the other eight spots in the lineup had at least two hits. Nick Gordon and LaMonte Wade were each 3-6 in the game. Alex Perez was 3-4 with a walk and his third and fourth doubles since his promotion to the MIracle. TJ White went 2-6. Brian Navarreto went 2-5 with his third double. Tanner Witt went 2-4 with his sixth double. Edgar Corcino played half the game and went 2-3. Joe Maloney hit his third double and drove in two runs. He was replaced by the newest member of the Miracle, Brad Hartong, who went 2-2. Then again, Felix Jorge was on the mound. The right-hander improved to 9-3 with a 1.55 ERA with seven shutout innings. He gave up six hits, walked none and struck out three. Nick Anderson struck out three over the final two innings. KERNELS NUGGETSCedar Rapids 2, Wisconsin 6Box Score Miles Nordgren was back on the mound for the Kernels. He gave up five runs (three earned) on seven hits over seven innings. He struck out six without issuing a walk. Tom Hackimer came on and gave up a run on one hit over two innings. He walked two and struck out two. Nelson Molina led the offense. He went 3-3 with a walk. Zander Wiel connected for his fifth home run. Jermaine Palacios was 2-4. Luis Arraez played left field in this game as the team awaits Jaylin Davis’s arrival. He hit his 18th double. E-TWINS E-NOTESElizabethton 6, Johnson City 4Box Score Tyler Beardsley made his first start as a pro. He went the first 5.1 innings and gave up two runs on four hits. He walked one and struck out two. Andrew Vasquez came on and was charged with two runs (one earned) on four hits. He walked one and struck out two. Johan Quezada picked up his first save for Elizabethton. He threw two perfect innings and struck out three. Travis Blankenhorn led the offense. He went 3-5 with his second double. Mitchell Kranson went 3-4. He was hit by a pitch and added his fourth double. Ariel Montesino went 2-5 with his first double. Brandon Lopez went 2-3 with a walk, his second double and his first stolen base. Caleb Hamilton went 1-3 with a walk and his second double. Alex Kirilloff went 1-4 with his second double and two RBI. GCL TWINS TAKES GCL Twins 4, GCL Rays 3Box Score Jean Carlos Arias went 2-5 with his second double and first triple. Jose Miranda went 2-3. Zach Featherstone was 1-3 with a walk and his first triple. Manuel Guzman, still on rehab, went 1-4 and stole two bases. Taylor Clemensia started and gave up three runs (one earned) on two hits over 4.1 innings. He walked four and struck out two. Clark Beeker came on and threw 3.2 scoreless innings. He gave up just one hit, walked one and struck out seven. Onas Farfan picked up his first save with a perfect ninth inning. TWINS DAILY PLAYERS OF THE DAY Twins Daily Minor League Pitcher of the Day – Felix Jorge, Ft. Myers MiracleTwins Daily Minor League Hitter of the Day – Alex Perez, Ft. Myers Miracle WEDNESDAY’S PROBABLE STARTERS Rochester @ Lehigh Valley (6:05 CST) - LHP Jason WheelerBirmingham @ Chattanooga (10:15 am CST) - LHP Stephen Gonsalves (vs Carson Fulmer)Ft. Myers @ St. Lucie (5:30 CST) - RHP Keaton SteeleWisconsin @ Cedar Rapids (6:35 CST) – RHP Eduardo Del RosarioElizabethton @ Bristol (6:00 CST) - RHP Domenick CarliniGCL Rays @ GCL Twins (11:00am CST) - TBDPlease feel free to ask any questions and discuss Tuesday's games. Click here to view the article glunn 1
FormerMinnasotan Provisional Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 Still no promotion for Jorge dispite a 1.5ish ERA? I could be wrong, but to me it seems like Jorge is the Twins trade bait in the minors. I mean if Felix was promoted to Chattanooga and struggles a bit, his trade stock drops. But if he keeps posting a great ERA and having dominant starts in Ft Myers some team will have interest in him, that's just my own opinion.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 yeah, under no circumstances should guys like Jorge be danged. Looks like a pretty decent pitching prospect. Mike Sixel and HitInAPinch 2
FormerMinnasotan Provisional Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 Trade bait for what?My thought is he'd be an add on with Nolasco. Just my opinion. Otherwise he should be in Chattanooga, clearly he has dominated A+ ball.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 The guy can deal, they sure have an exciting assortment of SP in A+/AA. HitInAPinch 1
clutterheart Verified Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 I can't stop looking at Zach Granite's stats. Man. Young for his league, good speed,good k rates, good OB%, all he needs now is power...He is overcoming his bad April and keeps getting better. He should be at AAA next year and could be a Sept 2017 call up. I can't think of a prospect at AA/AAA who has improved his stock more than him. d-mac 1
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted July 6, 2016 Author Posted July 6, 2016 No way I'd trade Felix Jorge. nytwinsfan, HitInAPinch, milldam and 3 others 6
HitInAPinch Verified Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) My thought is he'd be an add on with Nolasco. Just my opinion. Otherwise he should be in Chattanooga, clearly he has dominated A+ ball.To get rid of Nolasco, you throw in one of the Twins better prospects? This doesn't make much sense. Edited July 6, 2016 by HitInAPinch Mike Sixel 1
d-mac Verified Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 No way I'd trade Felix Jorge. Meh, if some team gives us something of value back I would include him in a trade. His shiny ERA this year seems partly due to a low BABIP and a very high LOB%. His K rate is pretty meh, so I have my doubts as to whether he can get more advanced hitters out or not.
youngpadawan Provisional Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 Ryan Eades to bullpen and Felix Jorge promoted. Problem solved.
Tibs Verified Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 Ryan Eades to bullpen and Felix Jorge promoted. Problem solved. Except it's ignoring that Eades was pretty good in May and June
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 Meh, if some team gives us something of value back I would include him in a trade. His shiny ERA this year seems partly due to a low BABIP and a very high LOB%. His K rate is pretty meh, so I have my doubts as to whether he can get more advanced hitters out or not. Yeah, I agree. I think the Twins only have a handful of guys who have true FOR potential and Jorge isn't one of them. If they can include him in a package deal, that's fine. d-mac 1
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted July 6, 2016 Author Posted July 6, 2016 I can't stop looking at Zach Granite's stats. Man. Young for his league, good speed,good k rates, good OB%, all he needs now is power...He is overcoming his bad April and keeps getting better. He should be at AAA next year and could be a Sept 2017 call up. I can't think of a prospect at AA/AAA who has improved his stock more than him. I was honestly a little surprised when he was pushed to AA to start this season, but after a short adjustment, he has been terrific. It's fun to see. He has such a professional approach at the plate, perfect for a leadoff type of hitter. d-mac and Mike Sixel 2
FormerMinnasotan Provisional Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 Yeah, I agree. I think the Twins only have a handful of guys who have true FOR potential and Jorge isn't one of them. If they can include him in a package deal, that's fine.That what I feel. To me Felix Jorge is just like Chih Wi Hu last year. A pitcher who probably will be at best a #3 starter or lower. I think Jorge is alright, but I'd rather trade him than trade Gonsalves, Fernando Romero, Kohl Stewart, Tyler Jay, or Lewis Thorpe. I mean with the Twins being sellers at the trade dead line I can see them trading a better young arm to try to get something good in return. gunnarthor 1
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted July 6, 2016 Author Posted July 6, 2016 To get rid of Nolasco, you throw in one of the Twins better prospects? This doesn't make much sense. Agreed... you'd add Jorge to a package including Nolasco to maybe get a prospect as good as Jorge. HitInAPinch and Otto von Ballpark 2
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted July 6, 2016 Author Posted July 6, 2016 Except it's ignoring that Eades was pretty good in May and June Agreed. His stuff, in my opinion, is still good enough to keep starting. Rough one last night, but I'd certainly keep him starting.
MALKITT Verified Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 Most of you form opinions from a stat sheet. I work for the Miracle... and trust me, Jorge's the real deal! To trade him for ????? would make no sense. He's far outshone Kohl Stewart and even Stephen Gonsalves in his time here. He might be with the Miracle this long because of his age, certainly NOT his talent. Craig Arko, Seth Stohs and bluechipper 3
bluechipper Provisional Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 Byung Ho Park went 0-4 with 3 K's. And against a starter with an ERA around 7.
drivlikejehu Verified Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 I'm not super high on Jorge as a starter - he strikes me as a guy that is pitching to contact in a low-scoring run environment. But it's important to have mid-level prospect depth, since some of those guys boost their stuff and turn into higher-level prospects.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 My thought is he'd be an add on with Nolasco. Just my opinion.Seth sort of alluded to this, but it makes no sense. Nolasco is a net negative on any trade package. If someone was willing to eat a significant portion of Nolasco's contract to also acquire Jorge, you'd be better off leaving Nolasco out of it and just trading (or keeping) Jorge. The Twins don't need that level of cash, and just releasing Nolasco could give you the 40-man spot to protect Jorge this winter. alarp33 1
FormerMinnasotan Provisional Member Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 Seth sort of alluded to this, but it makes no sense. Nolasco is a net negative on any trade package. If someone was willing to eat a significant portion of Nolasco's contract to also acquire Jorge, you'd be better off leaving Nolasco out of it and just trading (or keeping) Jorge. The Twins don't need that level of cash, and just releasing Nolasco could give you the 40-man spot to protect Jorge this winter.Ok that does make a lot of sense. To me it seems like the Twins are just dangling Jorge by keeping him in Ft Myers. I strongly believe Jorge has started more than enough games in Ft Myers to prove he needs to be moved up. It seems curious as to why he isn't in Chattanooga yet. Perhaps though he will get moved up as soon as Jose Berrios is called up by the Twins.
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