ashbury Verified Member Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 More Berrios love at MLB.com http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2017/05/25/232331732/jose-berrios-throws-his-curveball-like-its-a-wiffleball http://m.twins.mlb.com/news/article/232203236/twins-jose-berrios-dominating-strike-zone/Frontrunners. If there's one thing worse in baseball than lollygaggers, it's frontrunners. Frontrunners don't get to extol the virtues of my players once it's blindingly obvious that they are doing well. Not already onboard? Tough. Tell me how great my players are, when it's still in doubt.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 The True Arrival of Jose Berrios is on Fangraphs
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 30, 2017 Author Posted May 30, 2017 From last week:10:05Twinkies: Say that the twins are *somehow* leading a tight division race around the trade deadline – what kind of trade would make sense for them? 10:05Jeff Sullivan: Boring stuff. They’re not going to sell the farm for anything, but they could add depth pieces10:06Jeff Sullivan: Like, a piece like Jason Vargas. Completely unsexy but helpful for them
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 30, 2017 Author Posted May 30, 2017 11:095 Run Homer: Robbie Grossman is walking like crazy. What is happening here? 11:10Jeff Sullivan: You know, at some point, Grossman is going to finally earn his own FP article. He kind of did this last year, too. And as long as the Twins are in the hunt, they’re actually good for publishable material
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 30, 2017 Author Posted May 30, 2017 Lots of Twins' stuff in here: http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/19459567/mlb-roundtable-memorial-day-standings-audit
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 30, 2017 Author Posted May 30, 2017 https://www.jotcast.com/chat/live-chat-with-mlbtrs-steve-adams-5-30-17-2210.html Joel3:23 Anyobody on the Twins "off-limits" if they decide to sell? (Assuming Sano & Berrios only) Steve Adams3:23 They wouldn't trade Sano, Berrios, Buxton, Kepler, Polanco -- anyone they're controlling for 5+ years and also counting on to produce for them. Cory3:26 As a Twins fan, can you add Nick Gordon to your other 5 of not tradeable? Or would you put him on the table potentially? Steve Adams3:27 Yeah I'm sure they wouldn't trade Gordon either -- he fits under the same umbrella. Controllable, long-term piece. I just didn't list him since he's still a prospect while the others are on the roster. Doubt they'd send Fernando Romero, Tyler Jay, Stephen Gonsalves, etc. anywhere either. (at first I read this one incorrectly...)Zach Burdi3:45 I am also a potential pitching prospect bound for a closing role. Steve Adams3:45 Perhaps but not in 2017, I don't think. ChiSox have other good relievers they can plug into the ninth if they move Robertson (e.g. Kahnle, Jones if he's healthy). Twins' bullpen is a mess, and one of their young guys could get the role more easily as a result. joe3:54 who is the future Ace for puerto rico in the WBC Jose Berrios or Jose De LeonSteve Adams3:54 I'm bigger on Berrios than De Leon
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 https://www.jotcast.com/chat/live-chat-with-mlbtrs-steve-adams-5-30-17-2210.html Joel3:23 Anyobody on the Twins "off-limits" if they decide to sell? (Assuming Sano & Berrios only) Steve Adams3:23 They wouldn't trade Sano, Berrios, Buxton, Kepler, Polanco -- anyone they're controlling for 5+ years and also counting on to produce for them. Cory3:26 As a Twins fan, can you add Nick Gordon to your other 5 of not tradeable? Or would you put him on the table potentially? Steve Adams3:27 Yeah I'm sure they wouldn't trade Gordon either -- he fits under the same umbrella. Controllable, long-term piece. I just didn't list him since he's still a prospect while the others are on the roster. Doubt they'd send Fernando Romero, Tyler Jay, Stephen Gonsalves, etc. anywhere either. So, basically nobody any other team might want. Got it. Two observations. 1) That is going to make it difficult to trade assets to acquire pitching. Contrary to what some believe, teams aren't going to trade their best prospects for your garbage. 2) If Falvey isn't willing to trade these assets, why aren't they seeing if they can help at the MLB level? Either they are good enough to help, or they are expendable, not?
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 That would leave Dozier, Erv, and Santiago as trade bait. In other words, not much.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 30, 2017 Author Posted May 30, 2017 That would leave Dozier, Erv, and Santiago as trade bait. In other words, not much. Erv, imo, should fetch at least one top 25-50, and 1-2 more good to very good prospects. Dozier? sigh. Santiago? Not sure I'd trade him right now, unless I got a top 100 prospect. He's worth more than a guy in the 200 range, imo. Especially with this roster.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 30, 2017 Author Posted May 30, 2017 another member pointed me to this: http://m.mlb.com/news/article/232578752/pipeline-podcast-twins-have-no-1-draft-pick/ Lots of really good stuff, in an interview with the Twins.
King Provisional Member Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 I just want to say it's obscene that teams (and certainly, it is not just the Twins) fine the low minor leaguers obscene amounts of money for trivial things such as possession of a slice of pizza. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/where-the-wild-things-are-scenes-from-life-in-the-independent-frontier-league/ Strecker feels the same way about some parts of Twins life. He was living in a baseball academy with minors, so the possession of alcohol was a $100 fine. Pizza was contraband and another $100 fine. Having a beard was a $100 fine, but mustaches were allowed. Strecker held a mini protest and came to camp with a ‘stache epic enough that LaTroy Hawkins bestowed him the nickname “Ron Jeremy.” Now he has a full beard and is happy to report he had pizza for lunch.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2017 Author Posted May 31, 2017 I just want to say it's obscene that teams (and certainly, it is not just the Twins) fine the low minor leaguers obscene amounts of money for trivial things such as possession of a slice of pizza. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/where-the-wild-things-are-scenes-from-life-in-the-independent-frontier-league/ Strecker feels the same way about some parts of Twins life. He was living in a baseball academy with minors, so the possession of alcohol was a $100 fine. Pizza was contraband and another $100 fine. Having a beard was a $100 fine, but mustaches were allowed. Strecker held a mini protest and came to camp with a ‘stache epic enough that LaTroy Hawkins bestowed him the nickname “Ron Jeremy.” Now he has a full beard and is happy to report he had pizza for lunch.Agreed. Awful
sthpstm Verified Member Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 I just want to say it's obscene that teams (and certainly, it is not just the Twins) fine the low minor leaguers obscene amounts of money for trivial things such as possession of a slice of pizza. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/where-the-wild-things-are-scenes-from-life-in-the-independent-frontier-league/ Strecker feels the same way about some parts of Twins life. He was living in a baseball academy with minors, so the possession of alcohol was a $100 fine. Pizza was contraband and another $100 fine. Having a beard was a $100 fine, but mustaches were allowed. Strecker held a mini protest and came to camp with a ‘stache epic enough that LaTroy Hawkins bestowed him the nickname “Ron Jeremy.” Now he has a full beard and is happy to report he had pizza for lunch.I wonder if teams do this with players who play in California.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 It does seem pretty strict. But if it was in the rules, and known ahead of time, then I don't understand the problem.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2017 Author Posted May 31, 2017 http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-power-rankings-time-to-reset-our-thinking-with-one-third-of-the-season-gone/ This guy thinks the Twins are 9th best right now, and that they can contend for a WC.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2017 Author Posted May 31, 2017 http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/79921/your-team-is-in-first-place-but-is-there-reason-to-panic Article on what teams should be worried about that are good right now. shockingly, this author says the Twins should be worried about pitching! Did you see Monday’s game? The Twins led 8-2 in the eighth inning after another great start by Ervin Santana, only to see the Astros score 11 runs in the eighth. As good as Santana has been, he isn't going to keep his ERA at 1.75 all season. Still, it’s the rest of the staff that provides reason to panic -- both the rotation and the bullpen.As a staff, the Twins rank 27th in the majors in strikeout rate and 29th in well-hit average. They don’t strike many batters out, and they give up a lot of hard-hit balls. That puts a lot of pressure on the defense, which has been great. Mediocre pitching and great defense can work, and it could be that the Twins will play 2016 Cubs-level defense all season. Maybe Jose Berrios will step up as a legit No. 2 behind Santana. More likely, the Twins will need to acquire a starter and some bullpen depth.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 Shocking! The Twins need pitching.... It's also encouraging to see Cleveland on the list for their struggling rotation. Little did I know that Salazar is now in the bullpen for them.
drjim Provisional Member Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 Shocking! The Twins need pitching.... It's also encouraging to see Cleveland on the list for their struggling rotation. Little did I know that Salazar is now in the bullpen for them. This is the reason I still hold on to some hope for the Twins this season. The rest of the division and most of the AL just isn't that good.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 Stephen Gonsalves was mentioned in KATOH's Most-Improved Pitching Prospects So Far article
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2017 Author Posted May 31, 2017 Stephen Gonsalves was mentioned in KATOH's Most-Improved Pitching Prospects So Far article Either I don't get that .... or staying with the same projection is improvement? did I read it incorrectly?
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 Either I don't get that .... or staying with the same projection is improvement? did I read it incorrectly? I read it after posting on here... Don't get it either. The projection is still the same.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2017 Author Posted May 31, 2017 Jose Berrios2:36 Am I a top 20 SP next year? Dan Szymborski2:36 I like Berrios, but that's a bit aggressive joe2:58 severino or berrios?Dan Szymborski2:58 Severino http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/dan-szymborski-fangraphs-chat-53117/
snepp Verified Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 While a bit more extreme, it's very similar to the Twins. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-reds-have-been-the-best-and-worst/
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2017 Author Posted June 1, 2017 Gentry1:22 Last calendar year Robbie Grossman is one of the top hitting outfielders, but how good of a hitter do you consider him to be? Eno Sarris1:23 Decent. A bit above average. Has good patience! average or better in patience, contact, power... just doesn't really pop in one place other than patience. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/eno-sarris-baseball-chat-6117/
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Either I don't get that .... or staying with the same projection is improvement? did I read it incorrectly? Only way it makes sense is if the other qualifying prospects all saw decreases.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 2, 2017 Author Posted June 2, 2017 Nick Turley, again. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-fringe-five-baseballs-most-compelling-fringe-prospects-90/
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Sano is #1 on Fangraphs' 2017 Top AL Contract Performers!
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 9:53Terence: What kind of playoff odds would you need to see to be a buyer at the deadline as the GM of the Twins or Brewers? 50% or so? 9:53Paul Swydan: I’d need 70% or higher. They’re ahead of schedule, and in order for me to try to push that schedule ahead with an aggressive trade, I’d need more of a sure thing.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 12:59Tor: Who is closer to being a legitimate contender: Twins or Brewers? 12:59Dave Cameron: Brewers
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 An entire article dedicated to the Twins on FanGraphs! A Glove Story in Minnesota
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