Twins call up Meyer

[alarp33]

 

I'm glad the young guys will now get a shot at playing every day, including (particularly) Arcia.

 

I also hope that with Santana as the 4th OF, who is capable but not excellent on defense, Sano no longer is pulled in the 8th.

 

Now the hard part: get the most expendable/expensive/redundant players to play at or above their skill levels until July so they can be traded to clear room for the rest of the youngsters.

 

I think its far more likely you'll see; Murphy - Santana - Sano in the outfield than what you are hoping for, Arcia - Rosario - Sano

 

 

[gunnarthor]

 

That would have been logical, but it doesn't seem to have happened.

Yeah, I saw Neal tweet that he thought it would happen but I guess it didn't.  Strange.  

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

SO, do I have this correct:  for tonight's game, the Twins will feature a 14 man pitching staff and 11 position players?

 

Polanco down, Duffy up.  12 players and 13 pitchers.  Buxton and Kepler down, Meyer up and Santana activated.  11 and 14.

 

I guess that explains why Molly didn't PH for Suzuki late in tonight's game.

Worse than tonight's bench is the implication that there is another move coming to add a position player over the next few days, and given the young players that have been demoted in recent days, it will almost certainly be David Murphy.

 

Although I suppose the two points are related: if they ultimately DL/option/cut a pitcher to add Murphy, why not do it today?  What exactly are they waiting for?  O'Rourke and Duffey probably aren't pitching for the next few days, and Tonkin probably isn't taking the hill unless we see 16 innings again.

[FormerMinnasotan]

If Meyer can do well in the pen I am sure he will get a look at as a starting pitcher as well, I just don't foresee the Twins bring super patient with Meyer though given how long he has been in the minors, especially with better talent right behind him. I feel this is the year Meyer either takes a step in the right direction with the Twins or he might either be traded before the season ends or let go outright after the season ends.

[Bob Sacamento]

 

Cheering for Nolasco to fail is pretty shortsighted. His success thus far offers an excellent chance to move him before the deadline- coupled  with a small chance for something reasonable in return.

Exactly, I don't know if any of you have looked at upcoming free agent starting pitchers for 2017 but it's Strasburg then followed by Brett Anderson, in other words its really really weak.  Even the trade market is thin - Sonny Gray (maybe), Andrew Cashner, Tyson Ross, Charlie Morton.

 

 So if Nolasco can somehow stay healthy and pitch even just average than he can help out a team this year and next, there will be a suitor(s).

[Riverbrian]

 

Except Murphy is not an OF........he's an old former corner OF. But, I get your point. I don't agree with the plans at all right now, this is all because they didn't have a plan for what to do if they won Park....none of this is an issue if Sano is at 3B or DH.

 

If Park has Sano type of power and we really have no evidence... at this moment... That he doesn't. 

 

Park may be the only decent thing the Twins did this off season. 

 

Sano can be moved from RF at any time. The real crime here is Hicks traded to the Yankees for Murphy. Which forced the Buxton dice roll and you rolled a 3. Craps

 

There was no other safety net for Buxton failing in CF besides youth. We had Kepler and Adam Brett Walker on the 40 man and that was it. You want Mastro... Gotta release some one first.  

 

Now the Twins are saying... Well... We did it again... we failed to assess the CF position for the 4th straight year and we failed the exact same way each of the 4 years and now we gotta go to the scrap heap and pull this Murphy guy onto the roster (not a CF'er BTW) to try and fix this unpredictable mess. 

 

I've been a calm supporter of the front office for many years... I've said time and time again that they have more info than we could ever hope to have. I've said time and time again... that they have a room full of baseball professionals who do this for a living... not on the side like all of us. 

 

If Murphy is called up. I'm requesting a written apology from whoever is responsible. 

 

I'm Pissed!!! I've got a crappy catcher on my roster for a multi tooled player with potential that rushed one of the top prospects in the game and he struck out 50% of the time. 

 

I know... It's April!!! I'm a hypocrite... It's just the way it is.

 

DON"T CALL UP ANOTHER MURPHY!!!! 

[USAFChief]

 

Worse than tonight's bench is the implication that there is another move coming to add a position player over the next few days, and given the young players that have been demoted in recent days, it will almost certainly be David Murphy.

 

Although I suppose the two points are related: if they ultimately DL/option/cut a pitcher to add Murphy, why not do it today?  What exactly are they waiting for?  O'Rourke and Duffey probably aren't pitching for the next few days, and Tonkin probably isn't taking the hill unless we see 16 innings again.

Why in heaven's name is Duffey sitting there on the 25 man, unusable and possibly injured?  Either ESantana should be on the DL, or Duffey should already be off the 25 man (sent down or DL'd).

 

But they've got themselves in such a 40 man jam there's no logical position player to recall anyway.

 

Unbelievable.

[TheLeviathan]

Remember when some of us insisted we be ready to hold the Twins accountable for their choices?

 

Well, it's not even May and this thing is going off the freaking rails in a hurry.  And their response is even worse than their initial choices.

[howieramone2]

 

Arguably 2 of the best 5 starting arms in the System are now in the Twins bullpen. One is in the Rochester rotation.  

Or 2 of the top 8 anyway.

[Mike Sixel]

 

Remember when some of us insisted we be ready to hold the Twins accountable for their choices?

 

Well, it's not even May and this thing is going off the freaking rails in a hurry.  And their response is even worse than their initial choices.

 

Not until 2018, or 19, or 20......

[LaBombo]

 

Well, I'm just happy that he's coming up. This guy has shown HOF-caliber Pitch Face at every level so far. 

 

Yikes.     Give him a start already.       According to those pictures he's aging faster than the guy in Indy/Last Crusade who 'chose poorly' and drank from the wrong cup.

 

Kidding aside,     it seems reasonable,   if maybe a little generous,   to give the Twins the benefit of the doubt and wait to see what happens with Meyer,   the pen,   and the rotation after the burn from the Twins'    self-inflicted unscheduled doubleheader wears off.

 

On the other hand,   the Twins have earned just about every bit of negative reaction to the Meyer/bullpen news they've gotten.     The rotation's boycott of the strikeout continues,   the alleged embarrassment of bullpen riches from the amateur draft has yet to materialize,   and you could reasonably argue that a better rotation than the Twins' opening day one could be drawn from their bullpen and minor leagues (May, Berrios, Meyer, Duffey if he's headed for the pen,  and one of the wonderkids like Gonz or Stewart).

 

 

 

[nicksaviking]

 

I think its far more likely you'll see; Murphy - Santana - Sano in the outfield than what you are hoping for, Arcia - Rosario - Sano

 

As far as I can see, Murphy has not been recalled.

[Riverbrian]

 

I thought Duffey got sent to the DL.  Did I miss something?

 

Not Yet

[Vanimal46]

 

But they've got themselves in such a 40 man jam there's no logical position player to recall anyway.

 

Unbelievable.

Not unless you need a pitcher. In which case, there's BOAT LOADS of pitchers to choose from! We've got starting pitchers, relief pitchers, closing pitchers, right handed pitchers, left handed pitchers, underhand pitchers, side arm pitchers, overhand pitchers, fireball pitchers, soft tossing pitchers. EVERYTHING pitchers! Come one! Come all! For PITCHERS. 

[alarp33]

 

As far as I can see, Murphy has not been recalled.

 

They have 11 hitters on the roster. They will have 12 hitters on the roster by Wednesday at the latest. Murphy as far as I can see if the only option.  

 

Are you just trying to play semantics here or what?

[Riverbrian]

 

Why in heaven's name is Duffey sitting there on the 25 man, unusable and possibly injured?  Either ESantana should be on the DL, or Duffey should already be off the 25 man (sent down or DL'd).

 

But they've got themselves in such a 40 man jam there's no logical position player to recall anyway.

 

Unbelievable.

 

Completely agree. 

 

I've never seen such a mess

[Riverbrian]

 

Remember when some of us insisted we be ready to hold the Twins accountable for their choices?

 

Well, it's not even May and this thing is going off the freaking rails in a hurry.  And their response is even worse than their initial choices.

 

Mistakes are one thing... I really don't blame people for making mistakes. 

 

It isn't what you do... It's what you do after. 

 

The After Part is really bugging me right now. 

[LaBombo]

 

Personally, I have a lot more faith in Milone giving me five than Meyer.

 

Yeah, I'd rather not see Meyer's first go at the rotation trapeze take place without a safety net.

 

And with that decision,   Milone takes an early lead in the 2016 running for the Twins' prestigious annual Blackburn Award,   given to the rotation's Devil You Know...

 

[USAFChief]

 

Mistakes are one thing... I really don't blame people for making mistakes. 

 

It isn't what you do... It's what you do after. 

 

The After Part is really bugging me right now. 

I think you can blame people for mistakes, too.  

 

I don't blame people for misfortune.  Accidents.  Plouffe getting hurt, I can't blame anyone for.  It happens.

 

But if you don't consider, ahead of time, what MIGHT happen when you tie your hands and feet  together and jump off a diving board into the deep end, well, that's a mistake, and I hold no sympathy for you.  

[Mike Sixel]

 

I think you can blame people for mistakes, too.  

 

I don't blame people for misfortune.  Accidents.  Plouffe getting hurt, I can't blame anyone for.  It happens.

 

But if you don't consider, ahead of time, what MIGHT happen when you tie your hands and feet  together and jump off a diving board into the deep end, well, that's a mistake, and I hold no sympathy for you.  

 

out of likes, chief, sorry.......

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Yeah, I'd rather not see Meyer's first go at the rotation trapeze take place without a safety net.

Again, if Meyer started tonight, Milone would be his safety net.

[jimbo92107]

So:

 

The starter with the highest upside in the organization fixed his mechanics and is being lights out and the Twins are sending him to the pen to screw him up again?

 

I hope that this is not the case and that he starts tomorrow (in his turn) with Milone in the pen or outta here.

If his mechanics are fixed, then he should be able to pitch well in various situations, like Trevor May, but with hotter stuff.

[LaBombo]

 

 

But if you don't consider, ahead of time, what MIGHT happen when you tie your hands and feet  together and jump off a diving board into the deep end [...]

 

I'm especially down with that analogy if the Twins'    seeming indifference to their pitchers being unable to miss bats equates to having minimal concern about the absence of water in the pool.

[Riverbrian]

 

I think you can blame people for mistakes, too.  

 

I don't blame people for misfortune.  Accidents.  Plouffe getting hurt, I can't blame anyone for.  It happens.

 

But if you don't consider, ahead of time, what MIGHT happen when you tie your hands and feet  together and jump off a diving board into the deep end, well, that's a mistake, and I hold no sympathy for you.  

 

I'm feeling very misfortunate right now

[notoriousgod71]

 

Mistakes are one thing... I really don't blame people for making mistakes. 

 

It isn't what you do... It's what you do after. 

 

The After Part is really bugging me right now. 

 

"I don't blame people for their mistakes but I do ask that they pay for them"- John Hammond, Jurassic Park

 

"Thanks, Dad." Newman

[Riverbrian]

 

out of likes, chief, sorry.......

 

Uff Da

 

Didn't think of that

 

I've used a bunch this afternoon and I still got the game thread to go tonight. 

 

Looks like my likes planning is similar to the front office OF Planning. 

[LaBombo]

 

 

Again, if Meyer started tonight, Milone would be his safety net.

 

That would be ideal,   if the Twins would     a),   actually do that,   and      b},    not refuse to move Milone to the bullpen because of one potentially bad impromptu relief appearance.

 

 

If you    were managing,   on the other hand,    there wouldn't be a problem.

[Riverbrian]

 

I'm especially down with that analogy if the Twins'  seeming indifference their pitchers being unable to miss bats equates to having minimal concern about the absence of water in the pool.

 

I'm conserving my "Likes"

 

I hope you understand

[USAFChief]

 

out of likes, chief, sorry.......

That's a mistake.  

 

No sympathy.

[LaBombo]

 

 

Uff Da

 

Didn't think of that

 

I've used a bunch this afternoon and I still got the game thread to go tonight. 

 

Looks like my likes planning is similar to the front office OF Planning. 

 

 

Ha!   You almost got me to burn a like on that instead of saving it for the game thread.    Denied,   Lundegaard!