Article: Today's Official Trade Deadline Discussion

[James]

The Trade Deadline has passed... let's see if anything surfaces for the Twins.

I was just thinking that there may be a few more trades that get announced after the deadline passed.  Anything involving a Twins player is going to take a backseat to this Price deal.

[Otto von Ballpark]

It appears the dust has settled, and Nick Franklin is the closest thing to a prospect in this deal
 

DET gets David Price

SEA gets Austin Jackson

TB gets Drew Smyly and Nick Franklin

 

Not crazy about it from the Mariner's perspective.  Depending on how you view Franklin, seems kind of low-upside for the Rays considering that Price is still controlled through 2015 (although as I mentioned previously, this return keeps them in the 2014 race more than prospects would have, if that is still a consideration).

[DaveW]

I thought Seattle was getting Smyly?

 

Pretty disappointing if the only trade the Twins make is Fuld.  

Meh, to be honest, pretty much every player that got moved today with the exception of the Fuld trade involved some really, really good players:

 

Cabrera, Lackey, Price, Lester, Zobrist, Stephen Drew (ok not that good), etc

[Oxtung]

I thought Seattle was getting Smyly?

 

Pretty disappointing if the only trade the Twins make is Fuld.  

Mis-reported originally on mlbtraderumors.  When I refreshed again they switched it to Smyly to Rays.

[John Bonnes]

Trade deadline has passed. We'll see if anything is announced late.

 

FWIW, this has been really fun and kind of watershed moment for me personally. When we started the forums on Twins Daily back in 2012, I was really hoping we would find a great place for a community to weigh in on events like this and today everyone came through. What a great way to share the day.

 

That's a significant accomplishment and is the result of a lot of hard work by moderators and members who have had to adjust to a forum that is a bit different than what finds elsewhere. Thank you everyone for making it happen. Today was personally very rewarding.

 

(Now let's hope the Twins did something rewarding, too.)

[DaveW]

It appears the dust has settled, and Nick Franklin is the closest thing to a prospect in this deal

 

DET gets David Price

SEA gets Austin Jackson

TB gets Drew Smyly and Nick Franklin

 

Not crazy about it from the Mariner's perspective.  Depending on how you view Franklin, seems kind of low-upside for the Rays considering that Price is still controlled through 2015 (although as I mentioned previously, this return keeps them in the 2014 race more than prospects would have, if that is still a consideration).

There has to be more to it. That would be a really terrible haul for Price.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Reports of the Mientkiewicz deal in 2004 only surfaced after the deadline.  Of course, nobody was able to live-tweet it either...

[Danchat]

The Twins rarely make deals at the deadline. I'm happy enough with Fuld, though I wished we moved Suzuki. Maybe he'll sign an extension later.

[John Bonnes]

Don't forget Drew Butera....

[iTwins]

There was ZERO buzz surrounding the Twins as the deadline approached. Either they played their cards very close to the vest (and something is coming)...or they just didn't play at all. If Suzuki isn't signed to an extension before season's end, this will have been a mighty failure by the front office.

[whydidnt]

When it was first reported, the other team wasn't listed.  It now looks like he was acquired by the Nationals.

Cabrera and cash to cover his remaining salary for a questionable SS prospect, #12 in the Nats system. Does not appear to be a sellers market, at least for mid-level or worse position players. Not surprising the Twins weren't able to do more, if this is all you can get. 

Edited July 31, 2014 by whydidnt

[diehardtwinsfan]

Yankess likely out on Price. What does NYY have if the Twins packaged Willingham and Correia to them? Any lower level prospects that look interesting?

Here's their top 20. I was interested in several of their C+ guys personally. Some of them might be had for Hammer/KC

 

 

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/3/12/5501226/new-york-yankees-top-20-prospects-for-2014

[Otto von Ballpark]

Meh, to be honest, pretty much every player that got moved today with the exception of the Fuld trade involved some really, really good players:

 

Cabrera, Lackey, Price, Lester, Zobrist, Stephen Drew (ok not that good), etc

True. This confirms mostly what I've been saying: nobody wants to add a Kevin Correia type at the July 31 deadline.  (Although I was a bit surprised that someone wanted to add a Sam Fuld at the deadline. )

 

Mediocre position players are easier to trade -- usually they offer some kind of positional flexibility (Drew) if not upside.  Although Willingham and Suzuki have very limited positional flexibility... in any case, KC level mediocre pitchers are more likely to move in August if someone is desperate (for minimal/no return, of course).

[Mike Sixel]

If that is it, he gets an A for the trade he made, and a series of Cs or Ds for not moving KC, Willingham, and Suzuki. YMMV, of course.

[cmb0252]

Suzuki extension via ken Rosenthal.

[Thegrin]

per K.Rosenthal & mlb.com = Suzuki stays

[twinsfan34]

Welp, Suzuki was the only 'action' Twins fans got...curious the terms on the extension. Hope it's only 2 years...at no more than $7M per. (aka Salty annual haul) Even so, feel that's a bit high.

[James]

There was ZERO buzz surrounding the Twins as the deadline approached. Either they played their cards very close to the vest (and something is coming)...or they just didn't play at all. If Suzuki isn't signed to an extension before season's end, this will have been a mighty failure by the front office.

No Twins trade would generate enough buzz to get through all the buzz of every other trade that just happened in the past two hours today.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if something happened and hasn't been announced yet.  I also wouldn't be surprised if the Twins didn't move anyone else besides Fuld.

[old nurse]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/07/twins-to-extend-kurt-suzuki.html

[halfchest]

Gotta remember Willingham ad KC could definitely move in August

[Pius Jefferson]

Given the poor state of offense in baseball it's a little surprising the trade deadline was so pitching friendly. 

[Mike Frasier Law]

Other than Suzuki (who apparently got extended) all the other players we fans would like to see gone are exactly the type to be traded in August.

[Winston Smith]

We have 3 more series with the Tigers. Should be fun to watch our guys against that pitching staff. Verlander a  #3 now?

[Otto von Ballpark]

Here's their top 20. I was interested in several of their C+ guys personally. Some of them might be had for Hammer/KC

Again, no.  If they really wanted a bat, maybe we'd fetch one of those guys for Willingham, but KC would be a detriment to that deal.

 

Can you imagine the (well-deserved) riot among any contending team's fanbase if they added career 83 ERA+ (peak 97, current 79) "I don't want to pitch out of the bullpen" Kevin Correia?  Particularly NY.  Maybe a more fringe contender will take him out of desperation in August, but the Twins will get virtually nothing in return but salary relief, mark my words.

[iTwins]

I will wait until I see the contract numbers, but my initial reaction to the Suzuki extension isn't a good one.

[nicksaviking]

Ha, who's going to bat leadoff for the Tigers now?  Is a team that has Rajai Davis as an every day CF and leadoff hitter going to win the World Series?

[teekz]

Two years with a vesting option according to Tim Brown of Yahoo Sports

[Otto von Ballpark]

I wouldn't be surprised if something happened and hasn't been announced yet.  I also wouldn't be surprised if the Twins didn't move anyone else besides Fuld.

This used to happen (see my Mientkiewicz example from 2004), but I am pretty sure with tweeting and live blogging, anything that gets to the league office by the deadline is getting to the public within minutes too.

[Otto von Ballpark]

The Twins are aware the July 31st deadline was for trades, not extensions, right?  

 

Jokes aside, it does seem like a weird time to extend a player.  Have there been other contract extensions announced on July 31st in past seasons?  I don't recall any....

[Oxtung]

Thinking about the Price deal....would people have been interested in the Twins sending a package to the Rays for Price?  They would have had plenty of time to work out an extension.  If that wouldn't be possible he might push us into conention next season or if not he'd be a great chip next deadline too. At the very least you extend the qualifying offer in 2016.  The Smyly & Franklin package (assuming there aren't more pieces involved) isn't that much for a player of Prices' caliber.  Perhaps Berrios, Polanco and one of our A-ball/rookie pitchers?  

 

I'm not sure where I stand on that package myself....