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    Adam Friedman

    From the obvious to the fantastical, lots of pieces can be moved around to replace Alex Kirilloff. 

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    Alex Kirilloff was once viewed as a key cog in the middle of the lineup for years to come, but his wrist injuries have prevented him from being that elite bat prospect analysts predicted. While it's still easy to see Kirilloff being a significant contributor to the Twins offense, it appears that may not begin on Opening Day, as he's "a little behind [the Twins] schedule."

    Kirilloff was likely slotted to play first base and designated hitter, and the Twins have put together a roster that provides ample flexibility to cover for his absence. Let’s look at some of the likely options if Kirilloff starts the year on the Injured List.

    Gallo to First, Gordon/Larnach to Left Field and Designated Hitter
    Joey Gallo has appeared at first base throughout spring training but last appeared there for significant innings in 2018. Gallo, to many Twins fans' chagrin, seems likely to be a regular, and his athleticism should enable him to play first, at least competently, especially given that he came up as a third baseman. With Gallo playing first base, Trevor Larnach or Nick Gordon can competently cover for him in left field, with others filling in as designated hitter, making this plan very workable. 

    Based on Gallo playing first in spring training, this plan seems likely to be deployed against right-handed pitchers if Kirilloff starts the season on the injured list. This plan is suboptimal because of its defensive implications. For all of Gallo's struggles at the plate, his outfield defense has remained a strength. If it's not clicking at the plate and the Twins take him from the outfield, he is giving the Twins nothing. On the flip side, it allows Larnach and Gordon's potent left-handed bats to be in the lineup against right-handed pitchers. This likely lineup combination will work okay defensively but will most help the offense against righties.  

    Solano to First Base
    Slotting in Donovan Solano at first base is another logical option that doesn't require any other maneuvers. The Twins signed Solano to DH and play first and second base. A right-handed hitter who is just below average against righties and above average against lefties, Solano is acceptable to play regardless of pitcher-handedness.

    This option keeps everybody at their natural positions, and Solano is a solid bat to have in the lineup, having been above average at the plate from 2019-21. This approach makes sense, especially if Solano's 2019-21 bat shows up in 2023.

    Farmer to Third, Miranda to First, Solano DH
    Rocco Baldelli will likely deploy some variation of this lineup combination against left-handed pitchers, even if Kirilloff is healthy. It creates all sorts of problems for left-handed pitchers. All three of these hitters crush lefties, whereas Farmer’s or Solano’s roles will likely be more limited when right-handers pitch.

    The defense of these players also makes the lineup combination extremely attractive for Baldelli. We will see how good Miranda will be at third, but given that Farmer was a decent everyday shortstop last season and had around-average defensive metrics at third, Farmer is likely the better defensive third baseman of the two. This lineup combination is an exciting possibility for a team that has struggled against lefties in recent seasons. 

    Garlick Makes the Team
    Kyle Garlick is another right-handed bat that could play a role in replacing Alex Kirilloff. Garlick wouldn’t be a direct replacement for Kirilloff in the field or at the plate, as he has never played first and is a righty who thrives against lefties. However, replacing Kirilloff with him on the 26-man roster would provide an additional weapon for Baldelli to deploy against left-handed pitchers. 

    Garlick can play designated hitter or one of the corner outfield spots, replacing Gallo or Max Kepler against left-handed pitchers. That would allow a righty-heavy lineup while Farmer moves to third, Miranda to first, and Solano to DH. Adding him to that group would give the Twins a potent lineup against left-handed pitchers, as Garlick was 28% above league average against lefties. 

    On the flip side, Garlick is poor defensively. Beyond that, he would displace Trevor Larnach on the 26-man roster, weakening the lineup against righties - the far more common matchup. 

    Julien is Promoted and Plays First Base
    Edouard Julien was optioned to AAA on Tuesday, so this isn’t happening for Opening Day, but as the season progresses, it’s a different story. Early in the season, this is the most fun and least likely of these four lineup combinations. It would require somebody else to be on the injured list or a surprising player being removed from the roster. With positive developments on minor injuries from Gordon and Larnach, the latter of whom seems to have fully recovered as he has played and homered in Sunday's spring training game, Julien making the roster would be shocking but also fun. 

    Julien has yet to play much first (not even in spring training) but isn't a very good second baseman, so getting his bat in the lineup by putting him at first makes sense. In 2022, Julien crushed right-handed pitching at AA, displaying impressive power and on-base ability, showing the ability to hit the ball hard and walk a lot. He has continued his tear in spring training and into the World Baseball Classic, hitting a leadoff home run for Canada on the first pitch he saw of the tournament. The talk of Twins camp won’t make the team out of camp, but we can dream for an early promotion.

    As you know, Julien was optioned to St. Paul (and minor-league camp) earlier this week. That said, he could be recalled. While it's unlikely, it could theoretically happen. 

    How do you see it playing out? Leave a COMMENT below. 

     

     

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    Option #6 - Kiriloff does not look ready, the Twins make a trade for a 1B

    1B appears to be a bit of a revolving door at the moment,  Gallo, Solano, Miranda will all probably see some time there.  Decent 1B are readily available throughout the league.  The Twins make a move to solidify the position with a CJ Cron type player.

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    I'd love to just see Julien get a chance to rake at the MLB level, but maybe letting him rake at AAA for a short period of time would make more sense. I think Farmer to Third, Miranda to First, Solano DH makes the most sense, especially for the longer term. I have to imagine that we see Brooks Lee or Royce Lewis at 3B within the next year, and Miranda would likely end up as a 1B or DH at that point anyway.

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    Fun as it is speculate, I think we’ve already seen the answer. Kirilloff isn’t going to be ready coming out of spring training and will probably need at least a few weeks in AAA before he is ready. The smart move is Gallo at 1B with Gordon and Larnach at left field and DH against right handed starters. Against left handed starters, it’s Miranda at 1B, Farmer at 3B, Solano at DH (or some combination thereof for those three) with either Gordon, Larnach, or Taylor in LF. If Buxton needs to DH that day, Taylor goes to CF and either Farmer or Solano sits down.

    The great thing is the lineup is flexible enough to be potentially productive, even without Kirilloff. That’s a big step up from last year.

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    I would love for Lee to start at 3B and Miranda at 1B, but I doubt that will happen, my next choice would be Julien at 1B, again I doubt that, so the logical choice is Gallo at 1B and Larnach and Gordon platooning. I really, really don't want Solano to have a starting spot would rather see a younger guy get that playing time even if he isn't totally ready. (Even Wallner for DH)

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    43 minutes ago, LA VIkes Fan said:

    Fun as it is speculate, I think we’ve already seen the answer. Kirilloff isn’t going to be ready coming out of spring training and will probably need at least a few weeks in AAA before he is ready. The smart move is Gallo at 1B with Gordon and Larnach at left field and DH against right handed starters. Against left handed starters, it’s Miranda at 1B, Farmer at 3B, Solano at DH (or some combination thereof for those three) with either Gordon, Larnach, or Taylor in LF. If Buxton needs to DH that day, Taylor goes to CF and either Farmer or Solano sits down.

    The great thing is the lineup is flexible enough to be potentially productive, even without Kirilloff. That’s a big step up from last year.

    I think this is the most likely option as well. The interesting twist to it that I'm curious about is Solano starting at 2B for Polanco if Buxton is DHing against a lefty. Polanco is by no means brutal against lefties, but he's significantly worse against them than righties. And Solano is better against lefties than Polanco is. Wonder if we'll see Polanco sitting more this year than he has in the past, especially early, by using Solano as a platoon for him.

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    3 hours ago, Fire Dan Gladden said:

    Option #6 - Kiriloff does not look ready, the Twins make a trade for a 1B

    1B appears to be a bit of a revolving door at the moment,  Gallo, Solano, Miranda will all probably see some time there.  Decent 1B are readily available throughout the league.  The Twins make a move to solidify the position with a CJ Cron type player.

    I think Solano was just about that. Against righties, I imagine Julien will also be ready soon  and can play first. 

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    2 hours ago, Tyler from Oregon said:

    I'd love to just see Julien get a chance to rake at the MLB level, but maybe letting him rake at AAA for a short period of time would make more sense. I think Farmer to Third, Miranda to First, Solano DH makes the most sense, especially for the longer term. I have to imagine that we see Brooks Lee or Royce Lewis at 3B within the next year, and Miranda would likely end up as a 1B or DH at that point anyway.

    Everybody wants to see Julien! The kid rakes! Don't think we'll have to wait long. 

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    37 minutes ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

    I would love for Lee to start at 3B and Miranda at 1B, but I doubt that will happen, my next choice would be Julien at 1B, again I doubt that, so the logical choice is Gallo at 1B and Larnach and Gordon platooning. I really, really don't want Solano to have a starting spot would rather see a younger guy get that playing time even if he isn't totally ready. (Even Wallner for DH)

    Solano is a very solid player and is very good against lefties. I totally agree with giving the young guys chances, but injuries will more than likely make that happen, unfortunately. 

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    3 hours ago, Fire Dan Gladden said:

    Option #6 - Kiriloff does not look ready, the Twins make a trade for a 1B

    1B appears to be a bit of a revolving door at the moment,  Gallo, Solano, Miranda will all probably see some time there.  Decent 1B are readily available throughout the league.  The Twins make a move to solidify the position with a CJ Cron type player.

    Maybe even CJ himself.  The Rockies have him now (saw him in a game vs. The Cubs).  They seem to have already given up on the '23 season, so...

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    How long of a leash do we give Kirilloff. ANotehr long stint on the IL-list, spending time rehabbing in Florida before being reassigned to AAA St. Paul. In the meantime, do you make the move of Miranda to first looking towards the future, or leave him at third.

    If the Twins need to develop a first baseman, is it Miranda...learning on the job now. That means that third base is Farmer for the now. Would you choose to have Julien learn third base, first base, or be the heir to Polanco if that time comes.

    And then, for third, will Lewis or Lee (or Martin) be in the mix for sure before the end of the year, if not in 2024.

    Making Kirilloff that extra guy who MIGHT someday be in the infield at first or outfield...or if he can put up decent numbers in rehab, but nothing special...do the Twins market him as tradebait.

    Moving Gallo to first opens up the OF for Taylor, Larnach, Gordon (or Wallner). Moving Miranda to first means your infield subs are Gordon and Solano (or maybe that is why you signed Hernan Perez - leaving Larnach at AAA).

    The reality is that today, there is NO first base prospect in the Twins system crying to take over the job - same as catcher - so it will involve moving pieces already with the team, or guys who haven't really played, or been groomed yet, for the position.

     

     

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    1 hour ago, Adam Friedman said:

    Solano is a very solid player and is very good against lefties. I totally agree with giving the young guys chances, but injuries will more than likely make that happen, unfortunately. 

    Solano is a 35 year old with a career OPS+ of 92, he is good depth, but if AK or anybody needs 10 or more days, he shouldn't be the answer, He is the answer to the question - Who is a guy that can give rest to multiple positions get an occasional start at DH and maybe fill in a few days if somebody needs a few days. IMO that is the reason Solano was brought in, not to be the everyday first basemen or DH and if it was I am done with this FO.

    If now isn't the time to get Larnach, Wallner or Julien to a lesser extent some time (with the rest of the team healthy), than when is? Those three are on the 40 man roster use them or move on from them because in all reality they need to be figured out before the next wave of guys need to be put on the 40 man.

     

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    24 minutes ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

    Solano is a 35 year old with a career OPS+ of 92, he is good depth, but if AK or anybody needs 10 or more days, he shouldn't be the answer, He is the answer to the question - Who is a guy that can give rest to multiple positions get an occasional start at DH and maybe fill in a few days if somebody needs a few days. IMO that is the reason Solano was brought in, not to be the everyday first basemen or DH and if it was I am done with this FO.

    If now isn't the time to get Larnach, Wallner or Julien to a lesser extent some time (with the rest of the team healthy), than when is? Those three are on the 40 man roster use them or move on from them because in all reality they need to be figured out before the next wave of guys need to be put on the 40 man.

     

    To be fair to Solano, he has a 109 wRC+ since 2019. That's tied for 110th in baseball over that timespan. I agree his position on this team is as a lefty masher, part-time player. But he's been a really good hitter once he figured it out later in his career.

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    1 hour ago, chpettit19 said:

    I think this is the most likely option as well. The interesting twist to it that I'm curious about is Solano starting at 2B for Polanco if Buxton is DHing against a lefty. Polanco is by no means brutal against lefties, but he's significantly worse against them than righties. And Solano is better against lefties than Polanco is. Wonder if we'll see Polanco sitting more this year than he has in the past, especially early, by using Solano as a platoon for him.

    I think you're on to something there depending on how good Solano is in the field. I hear he's slow and not the world's best 2B. It may be Farmer filling in at 2B when we're facing a LH starter. Farmer had a .948 OPS against lefties last year (148 PAs), Solano was at .770 (89 PAs). 

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    39 minutes ago, Rosterman said:

    How long of a leash do we give Kirilloff. ANotehr long stint on the IL-list, spending time rehabbing in Florida before being reassigned to AAA St. Paul. In the meantime, do you make the move of Miranda to first looking towards the future, or leave him at third.

    If the Twins need to develop a first baseman, is it Miranda...learning on the job now. That means that third base is Farmer for the now. Would you choose to have Julien learn third base, first base, or be the heir to Polanco if that time comes.

    And then, for third, will Lewis or Lee (or Martin) be in the mix for sure before the end of the year, if not in 2024.

    Making Kirilloff that extra guy who MIGHT someday be in the infield at first or outfield...or if he can put up decent numbers in rehab, but nothing special...do the Twins market him as tradebait.

    Moving Gallo to first opens up the OF for Taylor, Larnach, Gordon (or Wallner). Moving Miranda to first means your infield subs are Gordon and Solano (or maybe that is why you signed Hernan Perez - leaving Larnach at AAA).

    The reality is that today, there is NO first base prospect in the Twins system crying to take over the job - same as catcher - so it will involve moving pieces already with the team, or guys who haven't really played, or been groomed yet, for the position.

     

     

    You may have a point here, depending on what you think the time line is for Lewis and Lee. Both are kind of unknowns. It seems to me that both are likely to be 3Bs (or one at 3B, one at 2B) when they permanently arrive, which would move Miranda to 1B or DH. Lee got a lot of ST ABs - apparently looked good but hit .182/.279/.441. Looks like he needs some MiLB development time, especially since you have to think at least some (if not most) of those ABS were against pitchers who won't make a MLB roster.  Lewis looked great last year but who knows how he'll come back? Still, makes sense to give Miranda some time at 1B to help prepare for a Miranda, Polanco, Correa, Lewis IF in August.   

    As for Kirilloff? Hope the guy gets his chance but he may not be able to get there. It sure looks like he can't be relied upon at least at the start of the season which opens up the questions of when and IF he can be a lineup mainstay. That is starting to look like a big IF... 

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    34 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

    To be fair to Solano, he has a 109 wRC+ since 2019. That's tied for 110th in baseball over that timespan. I agree his position on this team is as a lefty masher, part-time player. But he's been a really good hitter once he figured it out later in his career.

    There is no fairness in fandom. 

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    I think Gallo is definitely the best overall option to play 1B, if Kirilloff can't go...and have the other guys in LF. My second choice would be to have Julien at 1B. Solano is best suited as a utility guy.  

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    2 hours ago, Rosterman said:

    How long of a leash do we give Kirilloff. ANotehr long stint on the IL-list, spending time rehabbing in Florida before being reassigned to AAA St. Paul. In the meantime, do you make the move of Miranda to first looking towards the future, or leave him at third.

    If the Twins need to develop a first baseman, is it Miranda...learning on the job now. That means that third base is Farmer for the now. Would you choose to have Julien learn third base, first base, or be the heir to Polanco if that time comes.

    And then, for third, will Lewis or Lee (or Martin) be in the mix for sure before the end of the year, if not in 2024.

    Making Kirilloff that extra guy who MIGHT someday be in the infield at first or outfield...or if he can put up decent numbers in rehab, but nothing special...do the Twins market him as tradebait.

    Moving Gallo to first opens up the OF for Taylor, Larnach, Gordon (or Wallner). Moving Miranda to first means your infield subs are Gordon and Solano (or maybe that is why you signed Hernan Perez - leaving Larnach at AAA).

    The reality is that today, there is NO first base prospect in the Twins system crying to take over the job - same as catcher - so it will involve moving pieces already with the team, or guys who haven't really played, or been groomed yet, for the position.

     

     

    I definitely worry too that Kirilloff may not be somebody they can trust long term. The Twins do have quite a few infielders and not enough room for them. I would imagine Lee playing third and Lewis second- with Correa at short of course. That leaves Miranda, Kirilloff, and Julien to cover DH and 1st. If they feel they need to bring in a first baseman, the price in a trade or free agency shouldn't be too steep given the position. 

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    31 minutes ago, Adam Friedman said:

    I definitely worry too that Kirilloff may not be somebody they can trust long term. The Twins do have quite a few infielders and not enough room for them. I would imagine Lee playing third and Lewis second- with Correa at short of course. That leaves Miranda, Kirilloff, and Julien to cover DH and 1st. If they feel they need to bring in a first baseman, the price in a trade or free agency shouldn't be too steep given the position. 

    These players are all within a year of being contributors for the Twins. I would agree with the projections that Lee, Correa and Lewis should be he principal three infielders outside of first base. Right now Kirilloff is the least sure bet to contribute, but it appears the Twins still believe in AK. 
     

    I do think one of Kirilloff, Julien or Miranda will eventually be deemed expendable in light of their defense positions. 

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    There are two options on Kirilloff. A (hopefully) he is still in recovery from a fairly experimental surgery, and we might see him in a month or so. B (fearfully), the radical surgery, essentially deemed a 'last resort' by the Twins has failed, and Kirilloff will never play in the majors again. I don't expect either Alex or the team will give up without giving the young man every chance, but option B now looms, and certainly has to be planned for at this point. 

    Most of the options here are frankly weak. On many days (especially if Polanco and/or Buxton are also limited) the Twins' order would have these below average 2022 OPS+ ratings: Gallo (79), Kepler (90), Farmer (90), Solano (97), Taylor (90). A couple of them playing DH and 1B where you are supposed to have premium bats. That is crossing your fingers for a whole lot of bounce-back seasons, or hoping your pitchers throw a LOT of shutouts.

    Larnach (if healthy) must be on the roster if Kirilloff is not, and he and Gordon need to play in front of Farmer and Solano. @TwinsDr2021 is absolutely correct in this, and in the alternatives (Wallner and Julien who clearly looks ready to hit MLB pitching). Frankly, if Solano doesn't hit better than his current spring average of .067, by the end of March he is the guy I'd cut to make room for a youngster. He's 35, coming off a down year, and a "utility" guy likely to play sub-par D at most of his positions without the bat to make up for it. Julien can do that and likely hit much better.

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    I think it's rather clear that Solano is the guy for the first couple weeks. I don't think I could stomach seeing another long stint of Miranda attempting to play 1B, especially as he's focused heavily on being an everyday 3B.

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    The FO built a 14 man player roster. The crux, barring injury, was always Kirilloff. 

    To be brief, his surgery is pretty advanced for a professional ballplayer. The fact that Kirk Gibbson had it 30yrs ago is interesting, but also provides perspective that medical technology has surely improved since then, along with rehab. 

    To me, Kirilloff is on the Lewis wait train. The future is more important than the now. AK is probably a few cars ahead of Lewis. Soreness and not pain is a GOOD THING! I always hoped for the best, but figured it would take him a little more time to ramp up than we wanted. So a month or so to get comfortable  at AAA is not a bad thing. The long game is what's important. 

    There's nothing wrong with Gallo playing 1B and Larnach in the OF. Nothing wrong with Solano playing some 1B against LH pitching.  Julien is going to force his way on the roster sooner than later. 

    Things might be fluid at 1B for a few weeks, or a month, but it's going to shake out pretty quickly. 

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    1 hour ago, PatPfund said:

    There are two options on Kirilloff. A (hopefully) he is still in recovery from a fairly experimental surgery, and we might see him in a month or so. B (fearfully), the radical surgery, essentially deemed a 'last resort' by the Twins has failed, and Kirilloff will never play in the majors again. I don't expect either Alex or the team will give up without giving the young man every chance, but option B now looms, and certainly has to be planned for at this point. 

    Most of the options here are frankly weak. On many days (especially if Polanco and/or Buxton are also limited) the Twins' order would have these below average 2022 OPS+ ratings: Gallo (79), Kepler (90), Farmer (90), Solano (97), Taylor (90). A couple of them playing DH and 1B where you are supposed to have premium bats. That is crossing your fingers for a whole lot of bounce-back seasons, or hoping your pitchers throw a LOT of shutouts.

    Larnach (if healthy) must be on the roster if Kirilloff is not, and he and Gordon need to play in front of Farmer and Solano. @TwinsDr2021 is absolutely correct in this, and in the alternatives (Wallner and Julien who clearly looks ready to hit MLB pitching). Frankly, if Solano doesn't hit better than his current spring average of .067, by the end of March he is the guy I'd cut to make room for a youngster. He's 35, coming off a down year, and a "utility" guy likely to play sub-par D at most of his positions without the bat to make up for it. Julien can do that and likely hit much better.

    I suppose there is a fair chance that Kirilloff will never be able to live up to his potential. I think the Twins, by their non-pursuit of big-time options, seem to be indicating that he will be back and able to perform. I guess no one really knows how this situation will pan out. I'm pulling for AK and I hope he makes it in what is probably a make-or-break year. 

    The veteran players the Twins picked up will all be much better if not pushed into full-time duty. I'm not sure if we should be judging them on Spring Training stats, but none are here to hit in the middle of the lineup and play every day. 

    I agree that Larnach should get a good shot to establish himself. Matt Wallner reminds me too much of Michael Restovich, another Minnesotan, who couldn't make the move from AAA to the majors. Julien will probably get his shot sometime in the first half of the season and he does look like he can be a really good offensive player.

    Finally, with a little work, I think Miranda can be at least an average first baseman, It's probably his position to play long-term if he stays with the Twins. 

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    6 hours ago, Althebum82 said:

    Clearly no love here for Tyler White?

    I’m not sure why this suggestion keeps popping up. He is never going to make the team out of ST. There is zero chance. We have better options already on the roster. If he gets a call up it means something has gone terribly wrong not just with Kirilloff but also with about 4-5 players who are way better options.

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    14 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

    To be fair to Solano, he has a 109 wRC+ since 2019. That's tied for 110th in baseball over that timespan. I agree his position on this team is as a lefty masher, part-time player. But he's been a really good hitter once he figured it out later in his career.

    I will add that major league baseball thought so highly of that 110th ranking he was given a 2 million dollar one year contract.

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    1 hour ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

    I will add that major league baseball thought so highly of that 110th ranking he was given a 2 million dollar one year contract.

    Yeah, that was the whole "lefty masher, part-time player" part of my comment. I never advocated for him being a full-time player or anything. He's got a very specific role on this roster. Just wanted to give an above average MLB player his due. He's been far better than the "career OPS+ of 92" hitter you were painting him as since his return to MLB in 2019. I don't want him as the full-time 1B for more than a week at any point in the season. But I do want to give the man credit for the hitter he's turned himself into since 2019 by providing a little context to his career stats.

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