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The Pirates just got Marlon Byrd and John Buck from the Mets for their #20 overall prospect and a PTBNL. Unless that PTBNL is a surprising stud, it looks like the Pirates didn't have to give up much to fix thier OF issues. Byrd is only owed $130K the rest of the season.

 

I'm guessing there might not be a huge payoff for Willingham considering what the Pirates gave up for Byrd and considering Morneau is still on the Twins roster.

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Twins front office missed the boast on Willingham. Many said he should have been traded last year when his value was the highest..Today, what is he worth?? me...very little

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Nothing will happen because the Twins are too afraid to pull anything off. There is no value in Willingham right now so no reason to jettison him. I have a feeling Perkins will have a down year and we'll be regretting we didn't even bother to listen to trade offers.

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I'd take just about anything we can get out of Willingham and Doumit. Those two guys have been taking up spots that need to be filled by other guys and won't be on the team after next year.

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The Pirates just got Marlon Byrd and John Buck from the Mets for their #20 overall prospect and a PTBNL. Unless that PTBNL is a surprising stud, it looks like the Pirates didn't have to give up much to fix thier OF issues. Byrd is only owed $130K the rest of the season.

 

I'm guessing there might not be a huge payoff for Willingham considering what the Pirates gave up for Byrd and considering Morneau is still on the Twins roster.

 

The guy who got is a pretty nice prospect and there is word (leaked on twitter by the Pirates' side) that the PTBNL is a pretty decent prospect. Add the fact that Buck is a very expensive back up, and the Mets did pretty well. As a matter of fact, I would not mind it the Twins get the equivalent for Willingham but in pitching prospects...

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Doubt Willingham will be claimed, but do the Twins take a little return for him. Agree he is blocking spots for players coming, but this could be selling real low.

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He's gone this offseason anyway. Although, I would be excited by a trade because the chances of resigning him would be really slim.

 

 

Willingham is under contract ($7ish M) for 2014...

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Jason Kubel DFA'd by the Arizona Diamondbacks......Do the Twins have any interest????

 

Maybe if the Twins were able to move both Willingham and Doumit. So probably not.

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Having Willingham here in 2014 makes it hard to justify bringing back Morneau, even at a reasonable price. Of the two, I'd rather roll the dice with Morneau in 2014.

 

If someone claims Willingham, I say "thanks for the memories, Josh," and send him to his new team.

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Hammer is the more pure power hitter between him and Morneau and is better suited to his home park. It also will be a contract year for Willingham next year, so if there is anything in the tank, he should produce next year. I kind of like having a pure RH power guy between Mauer and Arcia next year with Sano poised to take that role in 2014.

 

All of that said, I thought the Twins should have moved two of Doumit/Morneau/Willingham either last offseason or at the trading deadline. Waiting proved to be disastrous because all three fell off (Morneau didn't really take off) in the first half of the season and they had practically no value at the deadline.

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All of that said, I thought the Twins should have moved two of Doumit/Morneau/Willingham either last offseason or at the trading deadline. Waiting proved to be disastrous because all three fell off (Morneau didn't really take off) in the first half of the season and they had practically no value at the deadline.

 

Hammer ended the season hurt. It would be no surprise to me if other GMs told Ryan, "let's have a look at him after some spring training games and we'll talk again."

 

Morneau's production in 2012 plus his concussion history could have made any offers in trade be low enough to not be worth much.

 

Doumit's mix of skills might not map too well to many other teams at all.

 

Since Ryan did make two trades for prospects, I just don't see the compelling argument that he turned down offers, that would be difference-makers in the rebuild, for these three guys.

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Also thinking it is the A's that claimed Willingham...up to TR now to get it done & slash another $8 million off the payroll ( 1 mil this year & 7 mil next year)

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I think the Twins need to let him go. He and Doumit can't both DH next year. Neither should be in the field.
For nothing?

 

Willingham has a lot of a value on a one year seven mil contract. He's not really going to be blocking anyone and the Twins need his RHed at bat, and he's likely to increase in trade value because he just gets cheaper and can hardly do worse (unless he's completely done).

 

If we could guarantee that the seven million would be invested in better, younger players, I'd be all in, but I doubt that's the case, especially when we have such a low payroll all the same.

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Willingham has value as a RH DH next year. And, I agree his trade value can only increase. Unless Ryan can get a prospect for him, he should be pulled back. Doumit should be the odd man out.

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I hope they don't give him up on a salary dump. He can definitely regain value next year. Then again, the A's know what kind of player he is and are smart enough to know he's struggled due to injury. I think he could bounce back nicely, any time now.

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I would let him go because...

 

-DH's have very little value at the trade deadline. How many position players moved this year? Willingham has less value. He can't play any position without costing a team.

 

-2012 was an outlier. Even a drop off from 2011 when he had an OPS of .810 should be expected.

 

-Anyone under 30 playing LF has a chance to be part of the solution. Willingham will not be part of the solution. They need to seek solutions instead of perpetuating mediocrity.

 

Will the Twins begin to rebuild? The decision on Willingham will be telling.

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No one in their right mind is going to claim Willingham.

 

(that worked for Butera)

 

Like, wha??? I am onto something here.

 

No one is going to trade for Justin Morneau.

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