Tom Pohlad Said "Go Big or Go Home." Now He Needs to Actually Choose.

[Mike Sixel]

5 minutes ago, clone52 said:

I could see packaging Jeffers with Marek Houston for a higher end SP prospect.  Houston alone wouldn't be a 1 for 1 swap for a guy like Hess or Lagrange, but Jeffers + Houston might.

Yuck. Keep Houston. 

[clone52]

Just now, Mike Sixel said:

Yuck. Keep Houston. 

Fair, only tossed him out there thinking it was kind of a depth piece.  If you could pair Emmanuel Rodriguez, Gabriel Gonzalez, Mendez, Winokur with Jeffers for the right SP prospect, I'd be fine with that too.

[LA Vikes Fan]

Makes more sense to trade from our OF surplus than a middle infielder but I'm with you. 

[Mike Sixel]

2 minutes ago, clone52 said:

Fair, only tossed him out there thinking it was kind of a depth piece.  If you could pair Emmanuel Rodriguez, Gabriel Gonzalez, Mendez, Winokur with Jeffers for the right SP prospect, I'd be fine with that too.

Sure, I'm willing to add any OF not named Jenkins. But I can't recall teams doing that?

[KirbyDome89]

3 hours ago, amjgt said:

I'm an engineer, so I love to be able to put numbers to things. I love analytics and the have no problem with cold hard soulless decisions that sometimes come out of looking at data in an unbiased way.

BUT...

I also think it's important to acknowledge that cold hard soulless decisions have secondary impacts. And while we often have a difficult time putting numbers to those secondary impacts, that doesn't mean they don't exist. The perceived benefits of those decisions need to be weighed against the potential negative impacts those decisions create. 

Player morale. Fan morale. 2026 attendance. Future attendance. Franchise value. All of those things are in play and need to at least be considered.

The difficult thing for us here on this discussion board is that we have ZERO idea what's being offered. We can't make informed pro-con opinion on moves that are or aren't made, because we often don't know what the "pro" might have been. 

I'm not going to say something as condescending as "I'm surprised that needs to be said," but.... well.... you get it.

You're allowed to want the Twins to hang onto Jeffers, Ryan, et al for purely emotional reasons, but let's at least concede that doing so, i.e. devaluing assets, to chase a .500 record is a high risk/low reward move short term, and an objectively terrible decision in the long term. Again, you don't have to like it, but if you're going to try to argue that pursing the status quo isn't harmful, pointing out the damage it has already done isn't condescension. 

We don't need to know the exact details of offers, that's the micro. The direction of the franchise (the macro) is what's being discussed.