Twins (Woods Richardson) vs Rays (Littell): 9/2/24, 5:50pm

[insagt1]

The good Duran shows up and shuts 'em down in the 9th. Big win for Twins. Still 3.5 behind Cleveland but thats OK. they move ahead of KC. Did just enough to get the W tonite.

And a mini-win streak!!

[jaimedude]

Win-ah Winner. TWINS Win!

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

Nice win, boys.

[Tlaker]

7 minutes ago, Jocko87 said:

I just don't think any of the SRBr guys must be golfers.  The statcast average distance for 99 mph and 28 degree launch angle is 376 ft for 65 events.  No telling what the Twins use.

If we can measure slider spin rates the exit spin rates should be available too. 

Almost every golfer knows what spin does to distance on a driver.  

Wait. Are you suggesting that we can compare a golf ball at rest, to a fast ball, breaking ball, etc, with spin to react in any semblance close to each other?

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

T-Bar, Blewitt, Castillo and Tonkin likely available tomorrow out of the pen.

[Tlaker]

Just amazing when good players can bank on being in the starting lineup every day and develop a real rhythm for the game! 

[Jocko87]

1 minute ago, Tlaker said:

Wait. Are you suggesting that we can compare a golf ball at rest, to a fast ball, breaking ball, etc, with spin to react in any semblance close to each other?

Certainly, the ball at rest doesn't change the exit spin effect on the flying ball but it mostly likely changes how the ball reacts when hit.  A 2200 rpm exit acts the same on a golf ball and a baseball...with the slight difference of seams and dimples.  A baseball is more likely to have side spin with hitting a moving target.  

Seems like its still a relatively new field for the nerds but the data is there.  I'm sure the teams would be using it.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/more-fun-with-batted-ball-spin-data/

 

[Parfigliano]

12 minutes ago, Tlaker said:

Wait. Are you suggesting that we can compare a golf ball at rest, to a fast ball, breaking ball, etc, with spin to react in any semblance close to each other?

African or European golf ball?

[Tlaker]

10 minutes ago, Jocko87 said:

Certainly, the ball at rest doesn't change the exit spin effect on the flying ball but it mostly likely changes how the ball reacts when hit.  A 2200 rpm exit acts the same on a golf ball and a baseball...with the slight difference of seams and dimples.  A baseball is more likely to have side spin with hitting a moving target.  

Seems like its still a relatively new field for the nerds but the data is there.  I'm sure the teams would be using it.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/more-fun-with-batted-ball-spin-data/

 

Oh those pesky variables like temperature and wind speed and those other nasty realities that are hard to pin down…..

he even said it in the article.

sorry his quote was “potential inaccuracies “

[Jocko87]

Just now, Parfigliano said:

African or European golf ball?

Yes.

[Jocko87]

1 minute ago, Tlaker said:

Oh those pesky variables like temperature and wind speed and those other nasty realities that are hard to pin down…..

he even said it in the article.

Justin is learning.  Spin is a major variable.  The video is the good stuff,

[cmoss84]

Saw most of the game but I missed where Julien was positioned when we lost the SB challenge. He was late to the bag...was he shifted 1st base side? Or just slow to the bag?

Definitely a lot of positives though in kind of a weird game.

[Tlaker]

2 minutes ago, Jocko87 said:

Justin is learning.  Spin is a major variable.  The video is the good stuff,

I am not sure who Justin is….. however if he is a student at Wash U in St.Louis, he must know his stuff!!!

Because, I have a daughter that graduated with her Masters from Wash U!!! They know their stuff!! Ken Burns was the Commencement Speaker and it was fantastic!!!

any way I digress 

[mrtwinsfan]

18 minutes ago, Jocko87 said:

Certainly, the ball at rest doesn't change the exit spin effect on the flying ball but it mostly likely changes how the ball reacts when hit.  A 2200 rpm exit acts the same on a golf ball and a baseball...with the slight difference of seams and dimples.  A baseball is more likely to have side spin with hitting a moving target.  

Seems like its still a relatively new field for the nerds but the data is there.  I'm sure the teams would be using it.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/more-fun-with-batted-ball-spin-data/

 

[Jocko87]

Just now, mrtwinsfan said:

[mnfireman]

29 minutes ago, Jocko87 said:

Certainly, the ball at rest doesn't change the exit spin effect on the flying ball but it mostly likely changes how the ball reacts when hit.  A 2200 rpm exit acts the same on a golf ball and a baseball...with the slight difference of seams and dimples.  A baseball is more likely to have side spin with hitting a moving target.  

Seems like its still a relatively new field for the nerds but the data is there.  I'm sure the teams would be using it.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/more-fun-with-batted-ball-spin-data/

 

If there's a no math rule on here, physics certainly aren't allowed....😉😂

[Tlaker]

5 minutes ago, Jocko87 said:

Oh those pesky variables, 

ash bat, maple bat, ball just put in play, Coors Field, damp night 

In a vacuum maybe, but otherwise I don’t know 😀

[Tlaker]

3 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

If there's a no math rule on here, physics certainly aren't allowed....😉😂

I love this discussion!! It’s what boards like this are made for!!!!

[Jocko87]

19 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

If there's a no math rule on here, physics certainly aren't allowed....😉😂

My bad, no math in the game thread!  LMAO.

[Parfigliano]

22 minutes ago, Tlaker said:

Oh those pesky variables, 

ash bat, maple bat, ball just put in play, Coors Field, damp night 

In a vacuum maybe, but otherwise I don’t know 😀

TB in the indoor air condition.

[sampleSizeOfOne]

What i miss?

[sampleSizeOfOne]

39 minutes ago, Jocko87 said:

My bad, no math in the game thread!  LMAO.

Math is too much effort to get right.

If you must, please include a simplistic metaphor so we... er i don't have to work hard. Kinda like a pacifier for us kiddies. 

 

Or perhaps for those who like audio-video stimulation:

 

[Squirrel]

9 hours ago, cmoss84 said:

Saw most of the game but I missed where Julien was positioned when we lost the SB challenge. He was late to the bag...was he shifted 1st base side? Or just slow to the bag?

Definitely a lot of positives though in kind of a weird game.

None of those was the case. It was a close play we didn’t get. Julien was there.