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Game Thread: Twins (Ryan) v Giants (DeSclafani) @ 12:10 CT, 5/24/23


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Just now, IaBeanCounter said:

Duran should never throw a curveball for a strike.  I wonder the batting average is against his fastball vs curveball?

BA you say?  I'd like to know what the CONTACT average comparison is between the two.

Posted
2 minutes ago, IaBeanCounter said:

Duran should never throw a curveball for a strike.  I wonder the batting average is against his fastball vs curveball?

Wouldn't that negate the effectiveness of it though?  Batters would just let it go.  They'd at least have to time it out if it was a strike.

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"Wouldn't that negate the effectiveness of it though?  Batters would just let it go.  They'd at least have to time it out if it was a strike."

Look at the Sabol AB.  The curveball ended up below the zone and had to be blocked for a strikeout.  The batters are expecting the fastball and if the curveball is in the zone, they can pull it.

Posted
4 minutes ago, IaBeanCounter said:

"Wouldn't that negate the effectiveness of it though?  Batters would just let it go.  They'd at least have to time it out if it was a strike."

Look at the Sabol AB.  The curveball ended up below the zone and had to be blocked for a strikeout.  The batters are expecting the fastball and if the curveball is in the zone, they can pull it.

That's kinda my point though.  If he never throws it for a strike, there's no reason to swing.  The threat is there that he does now, so you have to respect that he'll do it.  Hitters can just sit on the fastball.

Posted
Just now, sampleSizeOfOne said:

Sorry, ended up napping with the lead.

 

Did i miss anything important?

Not unless you like wins.

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Posted
57 minutes ago, IaBeanCounter said:

Duran should never throw a curveball for a strike.  I wonder the batting average is against his fastball vs curveball?

BA against FB- .154
BA against CB- .150
BA against Split- .091

SLG against FB- .385
SLG against CB- .300
SLG against Split- .091

He can pretty much throw whatever he wants and it works pretty well. Total pitches of each type are 102 FB, 89 CB, 79 Split so all relatively close sample sizes.

Posted

I was upstairs in the crow's nest (section 319). Some observations

  • Just a delightful game on a gorgeous day. Ugly as sin (5 errors without counting the ball the RF misjudged for SF) but when we have slept through so many Twins snoozers, seeing all those guys running around was like Christmas.
  • Giants left 15 on base. Twins had 11 Ks in just 8 innings.
  • Taylor had 4 of them and looked absolutely clueless at the plate. Probably something at home, clubhouse issue -- who knows, but he looked bad.
  • 24,000 in attendance and 25,000 of them were kids. Stuffing their faces, running the corridors, jumping up to get on camera/scoreboard. "Get off my lawn kid."
  • Target Field is in great shape. That condo building in LF going up has to be 30 stories and is going to eat Target Field.
  • Attending a game w/a friend who is also into baseball is about 11" below heaven's doorstep.
  • Julien looked good at 2nd despite the rap.
  • Wallner has a rifle for an arm, drilling a throw from right w/a Giant thinking the beanstalk was at home plate. Giant reconsidered and scampered back to 3rd.
  • People can't watch a game without a phone in one hand. Must be looking at Fangraphs. Not.
  • Ryan was out of sorts. Guessing at 65% strikes? Not his usual 72-80%. Lots of early lumber on his pitches. Not his shiniest game but walked away w/the win.
  • Didn't realize Castro was as fast as he seemed today (I don't have cable and am provided games by Provus).
  • Duran set the league's record for speed -- 104.6mph. That's a discussion for another day on the durability of arms given our fascination with speed.

You guys have a ton of information you generously share. Thanks ever so much for it.

db

Posted

Was out fishing during the game, just glad to see we won and avoided the sweep! It was not warm and sunny up north at all like in the cities. I think I got colder fishing in the boat than I normally do snowmobiling!

Posted
23 minutes ago, Mortimerkenny21 said:

Was out fishing ...I think I got colder fishing in the boat than I normally do snowmobiling!

Ah, but did you score some walleye or panfish?

Posted
1 hour ago, Mortimerkenny21 said:

I did, northern, walleye, and crappies! It was worth the trip! Hard to beat fresh fish. Winner winner, walleye & crappie dinner!

I have 17 lbs of walleye filets in the freezer that my bud from Texas pulled out of the Mississippi for me.

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