Offseason Status Update: Time to Pivot

[rv78]

The biggest pivot they need to make is to go from their current strategy to a different one, because their current strategy is a losing one. It is counter-productive to trade away top prospects at the trade deadline for veterans with a 1 or 2 year contract then don't go all in on Free Agents to finish the process. #1 you are losing good prospects and #2 you aren't adding the best veteran players who go to other teams thus making their teams better which also makes your team weaker. This organization is lost. It has no direction, no willingness to do what it takes to win either short-term or long-term. It's a "We Tried" FO that doesn't know what they are doing. It's been 31 years since a Championship and this FO will never get us back there so be happy with a "competitive" team that they promise every year. Competitive verses Contending are two different things. Just remember for Goodness sake, go support this team so St Peter isn't upset about the lack of fans attending games to watch all of the 2nd and 3rd tier cheap players they assemble wearing those sporty new uniforms!

[PatG]

Hello TD faithful, hate to comment on the emperor's wardrobe, but...  the Twins ARE currently in a full re-build.  Just about to get to the other side.

A team that finishes with a rookie leading the team in RBIs and a rookie leading the team in Wins is in a full re-build. (by definition?)

Remember last year at this time?  We had signed D Bundy?  We were looking at a 110 Loss team!

The FO plan to have a plethora of Major League ready pitchers (AAA, AAAA n MLB) and have them compete for innnings is working (Cleveland model).  Pitching isn't the problem.

We need a big bopper, think a Sano that can actually hit the ball.  Abreu would have been good.

ACTIONS: 1) trade Kepler and Polanco; they have trade value and we have plenty of replacements for these dudes, 2) Sign another CF, perhaps A McCutchen or M Brantley (not really a center fielder, but great hitter), 3) Sign another BP dude (T May, T Rogers come to mind)

Please temper expectations.  MLB is just not fair.

Also, during the regular season, the Twins need to play mind games when we play the big boys, at least PRETEND that you are in a playoff series (Cleveland, Dodgers, Y (Sp) ankies obliterated the Twins in certain key series last year.

We are almost there TD faithfu!

[tony&rodney]

21 minutes ago, rv78 said:

This organization is lost. It has no direction, no willingness to do what it takes to win either short-term or long-term.

I'm not sure this is exactly true because I don't know what Falvine have in their minds. It is really hard to see a path under their direction whereas the strategy was more apparent under Terry Ryan. The Falvines have the resumes so they hold the keys to whatever is going to happen. Cautious is a word that comes to mind to describe the Falvine tenure. Every move is cautious and the team plays with caution too. Caution is a safe investing and business strategy but I'm not to sure it is effective in sports. I'm still waiting for some moves and a new focus for the Twins.

[Thebigalguy]

We're good to go without free agents. Farmer at SS is more than adequate. No Correa, but in the same ballpark. Trade Kepler, whose immaturity at the plate and in his decision to go unvaxxed at a time when it was dangerous to do so and kept him out of Canada (BTW, 373 Americans died yesterday of Covid, and that's about average) tells me he needs to try his luck someplace else if anybody will give the Twins good weight in return. If he's not traded, though, we'll have an elite outfield defensively and maybe a different Twins coach can get the young man to try something a little different, since doing the same ugly thing repeatedly with the same results is the definition of insanity. Arraez and Kiriloff (if healthy) at first, Polanco, Farmer, Miranda. Vasquez behind the plate with Jeffers still coming of age. A potential ace or two on the starting staff and elite relievers. What more can we want, except maybe a manager who doesn't pull starters after a designated number of pitches? I don't see any hurry to make deals. With luck, Lewis will be at SS by the All-Star break. Let suitors come to us, not vice  versa. Last year the FO traded the closer at the last minute without much return. Not a good look. I think, and you might disagree, that the team has all the pieces in place if players deliver what we have a right to expect.

[Nashvilletwin]

12 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

If you won't sign big time FAs (or even second tier ones like Bassit)....and you keep trading prospects, how do you plan to have long term, sustained, success without prospects because you keep trading them instead of spending money.

Exactly.  Either pony up or embrace who we really are.  Since we won’t do the former, we’d better do the later. Unfortunately, this FO will do neither.

I can live with a rebuild. I like a lot of our young talent. But what is hard to stomach is trading that talent and/or not developing it.  This FO and manager are not right for the strategy we must embrace if we want to have a true chance to compete.

 

 

[wsnydes]

There has to some realism in these offseason approaches by the FO.  If they're not going to be serious about going after a top tier free agent, then they need forget about those and pursue the next tier down and do it more aggressively.  Going after a top tier FA half-assed while allowing lower tier players to sign elsewhere in the process is not the way to conduct an offseason.  If they're going to go after a top tier FA, then they need to do it seriously.  Otherwise, don't pursue them at all and get more of the less flashy names to fill out a roster.  This team is much further away from competing than a Correa.  Coming up empty and/or needing to trade for guys to fill the roster holes isn't a sustainable approach.

[MABB1959]

13 hours ago, SanoMustGo said:

Pivot to what?  Full rebuild time.

They have been rebuilding since the Mauer, Morneau, Hunter years.  We get a glimpse of hope at times, Cruz, Correa, Buxton, Berrios but they a shortlived.

[bronald3030]

I guess I am in the minority. I like this team. We have some youngsters on the way and if we could have a season with good health I thinkk we can contend.

[D.C Twins]

Don't blame you for not seeing Joey Gallo coming when you wrote this because... you know... no one trying to have a successful offseason would...