Game Thread Guardians 9/11/22 1:10

[SanoMustGo]

1 minute ago, LVTwinsfan said:

Funny how that works

LOL

[LVTwinsfan]

Archer on the il. How are they possibly going to be able to make up 4 innings every five days

[LVTwinsfan]

That’s a great play

[tony&rodney]

Winder looked good. He got hurt twice. I guess this is a situation where Rocco is damned if he does or damned if he doesn't when you lift Winder after less than 70 pitches; fair decision.

[PDX Twin]

1 minute ago, LVTwinsfan said:

Archer on the il. How are they possibly going to be able to make up 4 innings every five days

Maybe they'll have to bring up Varland for a second start.

[LVTwinsfan]

1 minute ago, PDX Twin said:

Maybe they'll have to bring up Varland for a second start.

That makes too much sense

[ashbury]

9 minutes ago, SanoMustGo said:

The offense usually takes the day off against good pitching.

They're just the unluckiest team ever.  They always seem to face a pitcher who is doing well.

[ashbury]

Sandy Leon has been on an absolute tear* at bat in the month of September, with an OPS of .900.  I am sure this pattern will continue.

 

* Covering a grand total of 6 plate appearances

[SanoMustGo]

Garlick is terrible

[rwilfong86]

Nice luck there 

[ashbury]

Gary Sanchez with the rib!  Very welcome development.

[mrtwinsfan]

10 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said:

That makes too much sense

They brought up J. Cotten,  whats that tell ya,

[PDX Twin]

When they bring up a player for the first time as the extra man for a doubleheader (Varland) do they need to use an option in sending him back down? If so, then there's no cost to having him up again. If not, then bringing him back up would require them to use one if they didn't keep him on the roster the rest of the season, right?

[LVTwinsfan]

5 minutes ago, mrtwinsfan said:

They brought up J. Cotten,  whats that tell ya,

That they are senseless

[LVTwinsfan]

6 minutes ago, PDX Twin said:

When they bring up a player for the first time as the extra man for a doubleheader (Varland) do they need to use an option in sending him back down? If so, then there's no cost to having him up again. If not, then bringing him back up would require them to use one if they didn't keep him on the roster the rest of the season, right?

I think “options” are based on longevity not how many times they are sent down

Once a player is added to a team’s 40-man roster, his team has three options, or three different seasons in which the club may to send him to the minor leagues without having to clear waivers. A player on the 40-man roster playing in the minors is on optional assignment. There is no limit on the number of times a club may promote and demote a player during one option season.

[tony&rodney]

Cave in LF makes two plays back to back that our OF needs to make. Gordon and Garlick do not make those plays, maybe Gordon with several more years of experience out there. These were the type of plays that need to be made by any team's outfielders if they are going to succeed.

[h2oface]

That's not a good approach, boys. Make Bieber throw all of 6 pitches for the 1-2-3 sixth. Not a good plan. 

[h2oface]

10 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said:

I think “options” are based on longevity not how many times they are sent down

Once a player is added to a team’s 40-man roster, his team has three options, or three different seasons in which the club may to send him to the minor leagues without having to clear waivers. A player on the 40-man roster playing in the minors is on optional assignment. There is no limit on the number of times a club may promote and demote a player during one option season.

Plus, I think, if the player is used as the 27th man for double header, that does not trigger an option year. It is a special case, by rule.

[LVTwinsfan]

1 minute ago, h2oface said:

Plus, I think, if the player is used as the 27th man for double header, that does not trigger an option year. It is a specail case by rule.

So he’s not on the 40 man?

sorry we’re talking about Varland

[PDX Twin]

Just now, h2oface said:

Plus, I think, if the player is used as the 27th man for double header, that does not trigger an option year. It is a specail case by rule.

That's what I was hoping. That may be one reason why they aren't bringing him back up.

[h2oface]

Just now, LVTwinsfan said:

So he’s not on the 40 man?

He is on the 40 man, but bringing him up for a double header for the 27th man does not activate the option for the year. So using him like that does not waste an option year. I think that is correct. I could be wrong, but I think that is how it works.

[LVTwinsfan]

1 minute ago, h2oface said:

He is on the 40 man, but bringing him up for a double header for the 27th man does not activate the option for the year. So using him like that does not waste an option year. I think that is correct. I could be wrong, but I think that is how it works.

I thought that being on the 40 man roster automatically starts the option year, whether you’re in the majors or not

[peterukavina]

don't know if bieber comes out for the 7th, but for the series, cleveland's starting pitcher line is 18 innings, 2 runs.  your minnesota twins - 10 2/3 innings, 11 runs.

[h2oface]

1 minute ago, LVTwinsfan said:

I thought that being on the 40 man roster automatically starts the option year, whether you’re in the majors or not

No. You have to be called up and placed on the active roster to use an option year. Some guys that are regulars still have options, That is why Sano could be sent down after being on the 40 man for more than 3 years. He had an option left. If you stay on the active, which means you are also on the forty man, after called up the first time, you cold still have 2 option years left 4 years later, for instance.

[LVTwinsfan]

Almost time for Americas Game of the Week

[AceWrigley]

Rocco managing for the win today.

[LVTwinsfan]

Just now, h2oface said:

No. You have to be called up and placed on the active roster to use an option year. Some guys that are regulars still have options, That is why Sano could be sent down after being on the 40 man for more than 3 years. He had an option left. If you stay on the active, which means you are also on the forty man, after called up the first time, you cold still have 2 option years left 4 years later, for instance.

Oh ok, somewhat confusing….thanks

[Richie the Rally Goat]

9 minutes ago, h2oface said:

He is on the 40 man, but bringing him up for a double header for the 27th man does not activate the option for the year. So using him like that does not waste an option year. I think that is correct. I could be wrong, but I think that is how it works.

They could also add him, and not option him back to AAA, would do the same

[LVTwinsfan]

3 minutes ago, AceWrigley said:

Rocco managing for the win today.

Is he? Shouldn’t that be the norm?

[AceWrigley]

1 minute ago, LVTwinsfan said:

Is he? Shouldn’t that be the norm?

You would think . .. but . . .