Twins: 0, White Sox: 13: Arraez Ceases White Sox No-Hit Bid with Two Outs in 9th Inning

[roger]

Disappointing end to a hopeful season.  Fortunately, football is back to watch on the weekends.

[Nashvilletwin]

Fleeced again. What is that - 3 times now in the past couple of years? 

To all of us who say “Hey, we have him next year though”, I’ll take the under next year too.

Honestly, how can anyone defend these trades? We spend years developing young talent, then ship it off in exchange for damaged arms.  It’s embarrassing, pathetic, and inexcusable. 

Who is accountable? Anyone? First time, you get the “hey it happens” excuse. Second time, “guys, seriously now, bad luck or not, we need to be more careful”. Third time, hell, they’ll probably fire an intern.

[MMMordabito]

Such a terrible showing, but Cleveland lost. Two games separate three mediocre teams from the one playoff spot that is handed to the ALC.

With the intradivision play being reduced next season, it is not that hard to see a sub-500 team winning the ALC in 2023. That would be the ultimate joke.

[puckstopper1]

Giolito has been bad, but his ERA is not 75.27 as shown in the write-up...??

Pitching matchup tomorrow:
On Sunday at 1:10 pm CST,  Dylan Bundy (7-6, 4.53 ERA) will hope to help the Twins avoid the sweep against White Sox RHP Lucas Giolito (10-8, 75.27 ERA) 

I watched the game thru the first 4 Chicago batters.  Glad there was a good college football match-up to watch.  Turned it back and saw it was 13-0 and I knew I made the right choice not to watch...

[Unwinder]

13 hours ago, ashbury said:

The league seems to have figured out Gordon and he should be removed from the bullpen.

Sadly this FO treats position player pitchers as fungible. I knew this would happen when they let Astudillo go.

[puckstopper1]

Maybe we should add Palacios to the bullpen.  After all he is averaging 27K/9....

[insagt1]

13 hours ago, h2oface said:

The 60 day moves mean nothing except it is smart and a manuver. Larnach has already been out 60 days and can come back anytime. It just cleared a roster spot for a move. Jeffers won't be ready until the middle of September and the 60 day move doesn't change that. Both these moves just created a roster spot for the time being, and doesn't mean either player can't be back if and when they are ready.

According to the definition of the 60 man IL, they have to remain on it for a minimum of 60 days before they can return. So that would mean both guys are out. yes it clears space on the 40 man, but the players can't come back if or when they are ready if it hasn't been 60 days. You can look it up and refute if you like, but thats how I read it.

[h2oface]

On 9/4/2022 at 5:37 PM, insagt1 said:

According to the definition of the 60 man IL, they have to remain on it for a minimum of 60 days before they can return. So that would mean both guys are out. yes it clears space on the 40 man, but the players can't come back if or when they are ready if it hasn't been 60 days. You can look it up and refute if you like, but thats how I read it.

No time for that. When Larnach comes back (out something like June 24th or 5th) in September when ready (his 60 days was up end of August already), you can figure it out. Same with Jeffers (whos 60 days will be something like the middle of September, which is when he is rehabbing for). It was covered in MLB Trade Rumors and other places. 

[h2oface]

On 9/4/2022 at 5:37 PM, insagt1 said:

According to the definition of the 60 man IL, they have to remain on it for a minimum of 60 days before they can return. So that would mean both guys are out. yes it clears space on the 40 man, but the players can't come back if or when they are ready if it hasn't been 60 days. You can look it up and refute if you like, but thats how I read it.

Was reading stuff in MLB Trade Rumors and ran across the bits about the 2 in question so here they are.

Larnach...    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/09/twins-to-select-billy-hamilton.html

Jeffers....     https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/09/twins-place-jorge-polanco-on-il-select-jermaine-palacios.html

[ashbury]

On 9/4/2022 at 5:37 PM, insagt1 said:

According to the definition of the 60 man IL, they have to remain on it for a minimum of 60 days before they can return. So that would mean both guys are out. yes it clears space on the 40 man, but the players can't come back if or when they are ready if it hasn't been 60 days. You can look it up and refute if you like, but thats how I read it.

Time already spent on another injured list counts toward the 60.  It's in the rules.

[TwinsDr2021]

On 9/4/2022 at 8:58 AM, Nine of twelve said:

I made a post to this effect on the game thread but I'll say this here too.

On the broadcast AJ Pierzynski said during the ninth inning that he thought Cease should have walked Arraez. If I were Cease I wouldn't have done so. First of all, the outcome of the game was not on the line so there was no strategic reason to walk Arraez. But I'll bet he felt that it would cheapen the no-hitter to dodge the hitter with the league's best average. He went for it but Arraez got him. That's baseball. Good on both players for giving it their best shot.

I give Kudos for him facing Arraez, but I disagree it cheapens a no hitter, does Eric Milton's no hitter basically against a minor league team mean less?

In high school I pitched my only no hitter in my life, and with one out in the 7th I unintentionally/intentionally walked the other teams best hitter (an all metro player) to face a kid that couldn't touch my stuff that day or any other time I pitched against him, he weakly hit a ball back to me and we turned a double play and I don't feel it means any less. A no hitter is always better than a one hitter no matter how you got there.