DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 I mean, I liked him when he was playing for us. But **** him, what a jack ass, when will he just shut his mouth and realize nobody gives two ****s about his stupid ignorant thoughts? Personally I hope he ends up hitting as well as Delmon Young for the Tigers. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/torii-hunter-having-openly-gay-teammate-difficult-uncomfortable-003930197--mlb.html
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Damn.I have to agree with you (scary)my last tweet minutes ago: Thrylos 98 @thrylos98 So Torii Hunter in addition to being a had been and a redneck he is a bigot (glad the #MNTwins got rid of him) : http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/torii-hunter-having-openly-gay-teammate-difficult-uncomfortable-003930197--mlb.html …
YourHouseIsMyHouse Provisional Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 He's a bad teammate if he can't accept everyone for who they are in his dugout. Torii can keep his personal thoughts to himself.
Lesser Dali Provisional Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 I read the article - It is a shame Mr. Hunter feels that way. You would think with all of the money he has made, that the fire and brimstone of his beliefs would have crumbled away. I guess for some, religion has its place, but this line of thinking is rooted in the dark ages. It is disappointing
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted December 31, 2012 Author Posted December 31, 2012 I will give credit to the Tigers though, they did get rid of an Anti Semite OF and brought in an old homophobic one. Change takes time I suppose.
johnnydakota Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Gee bashing a man for his thoughts ....sounds like the mutual admiration society has nothing news worry to debate tonight
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 So sad. Fear is rampant in certain communities though....
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Johnny, some thought are wrong....what if he was white and said he did not want a black on the team, would that be ok?
old nurse Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Gee bashing a man for his thoughts ....sounds like the mutual admiration society has nothing news worry to debate tonightConsidering all the stones you have thrown ...
Scheherezade Provisional Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Taken down. Anyone have another link or screencap?
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted December 31, 2012 Author Posted December 31, 2012 In a discussion about the number of black players in the Major Leagues, Hunter said during a USA Today-hosted committee to improve baseball panel that black Latinos do not count. "People see dark faces out there, and the perception is that they're African-American. They're not us. They're impostors. Even people I know come up and say: 'Hey, what color is Vladimir Guerrero? Is he a black player?' I say, 'Come on, he's Dominican. He's not black.' ... As African-American players, we have a theory that baseball can go get an imitator and pass them off as us. It's like they had to get some kind of dark faces, so they go to the Dominican or Venezuela because you can get them cheaper. It's like, 'Why should I get this kid from the South Side of Chicago and have Scott Boras represent him and pay him $5 million when you can get a Dominican guy for a bag of chips?' ... I'm telling you, it's sad." Not exactly Hunters first umm..ill advised bigoted public comment...
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted December 31, 2012 Author Posted December 31, 2012 Taken down. Anyone have another link or screencap? Sorry, relinked it.
B Richard Provisional Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Tigers keeping it classy. Looking forward to another nyc dust-up involving a despicable Tigers outfielder
johnnydakota Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Johnny, some thought are wrong....what if he was white and said he did not want a black on the team, would that be ok?so if you were on a team and your closer finshed taking a shower and came walking out wear bra and pantys and grab your butt that would be ok? no im not a homophob... but if a man has a problem because of his religous upbringing then you sit him down and show him from the bible that we are all gods children...you ask him what would jesus do? if this fails and it becomes a problem then you trade or release 1 of players.the fact that Tori is running his mouth again ,shouldnt affect us, if you dont like what he says , dont resd his tweets
johnnydakota Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Johnny, some thought are wrong....what if he was white and said he did not want a black on the team, would that be ok?Oh so he is a general manager of the team? "{)
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 so if you were on a team and your closer finshed taking a shower and came walking out wear bra and pantys and grab your butt that would be ok? no im not a homophob... but if a man has a problem because of his religous upbringing then you sit him down and show him from the bible that we are all gods children...you ask him what would jesus do? if this fails and it becomes a problem then you trade or release 1 of players.the fact that Tori is running his mouth again ,shouldnt affect us, if you dont like what he says , dont resd his tweets There's a time and place for your devil's advocate routine, this isn't it. Homosexuals should not have to endure discrimination and hatred of this kind and turning a blind eye to it because it doesn't directly affect you is ignorant and wrong. Guys like Hunter are a special kind of ignoramus, using their undeserved celebrity to trumpet their ridiculous and uneducated beliefs, thinking that any intelligent human being actually cares what they think.
Ultima Ratio Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Quick, everyone run over each other to show, rather --anonymously write -- how tolerant you are.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Brain washed and egotistic. Hunter's never been given a reason to question the BS that was fed to him as a child (as so many athletes equate their success with God's will). Not a good recipe for decency.
Tuba Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 I hate to break this to you but this is how most professional athletes feel.
Oxtung Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 I mean, I liked him when he was playing for us. But **** him, what a jack ass, when will he just shut his mouth and realize nobody gives two ****s about his stupid ignorant thoughts? Personally I hope he ends up hitting as well as Delmon Young for the Tigers. Torii Hunter: Having an openly gay teammate would ?be difficult and uncomfortable? | Big League Stew - Yahoo! Sports It is wrong for Hunter to feel uncomfortable with somebody who disagrees with his viewpoint but it is ok for you to insult somebody who disagrees with yours? Frankly, I disagree with his view point and I still think your statements are worse than his.
righty8383 Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 I hate to break this to you but this is how most professional athletes feel. Did you actually read the article. Thats the whole point. In a society where homosexuals are becoming more accepted, professional sports is one area where gays are hardly welcome.
snepp Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 I'm not sure what's worse, Hunter being a douchebag homophobe, or the people defending him.
Shane Wahl Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Yes this is a fairly common attitude in professional sports and Hunter is certainly not alone. I have a hard time believing, however, that pro athletes are much worse in this regard than any other group of people who have strong "religious" upbringings and no real reason to care about changing their attitudes about things (stuck on sports autopilot starting from an early age, then come into a lot of money, etc.).
Shane Wahl Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 I'm not sure what's worse, Hunter being a douchebag homophobe, or the people defending him. Standard "right to his opinion" fare. Total garbage.
Steve Penz Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Society is turning the corner very slowly. We proved that in MN a few months ago by voting down the amendment to outlaw gay marriage and amen to that. I do not agree with him at all and still I will not expect everybody to automatically be on board. His comments on this issue did seem fairly mild to me and they seem like an opportunity. To blast him and call him a bigot vs. calmly pointing out why his comments hold no water seems counterproductive. A largely emotional response might be the bigger enemy.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted December 31, 2012 Author Posted December 31, 2012 Well he is a bigot, sorry if that hurts some of your sensible feelings or whatever. But if it quacks like a duck, etc etc
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Standard "right to his opinion" fare. Total garbage. Well....it is America. He does have a right to be a douchebag. And you have a right to call him a douchebag for it. That isn't a defense of Torii....it's the truth. Nothing garbage about it. I completely disagree with his ignorant opinion, but he has a right to have it. Just like you do yours.
Boom Boom Verified Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Hunter's opinion on this is not unpopular.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Ultima... My name is Mike Sixel...there, not anonymous.
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