Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 This gif doesn't bring anything to the discussion.... But it did make me laugh.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Many of them might be loving it.Yeah, the Trump supporters that I know have no problems with any of this. They are all for half of it, and the other half they insist is fake news.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 I don't think Devos has been approved by the full Senate yet, but it is inevitable. No biggie, she just hates public education....
jimmer Verified Member Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 The order appears to run afoul of U.S. laws preventing discrimination based on religious beliefs. In an interview with David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network, Trump admitted he wanted to give priority to Christian refugees.David Brody: "The refugee program that—or the refugee changes you’re looking to make, as it relates to persecuted Christians, do you see them as kind of a priority here?" President Donald Trump: "Yes." David Brody: "You do?"President Donald Trump: "They’ve been horribly treated. Do you know, if you were a Christian in Syria, it was impossible, very, very—at least very, very tough to get into the United States? If you were a Muslim, you could come in, but if you were a Christian, it was almost impossible. And the reason that was so unfair is that the—everybody was persecuted, in all fairness, but they were chopping off the heads of everybody, but more so the Christians. And I thought it was very, very unfair. So, we are going to help them."Trump later walked back those comments, saying in a statement Sunday night that his immigration ban was not about religion. But one of Trump’s top advisers said the president explicitly ordered a Muslim ban. Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani ® said in an interview on Saturday that President Trump had previously asked him about legally implementing a "Muslim ban." But Giuliani then disputed the notion that the president's sweeping executive order barring refugees and people from seven predominantly Muslim nations amounts to a ban on Muslims. "I’ll tell you the whole history of it: When he first announced it, he said ‘Muslim ban,'" Giuliani said on Fox News. "He called me up, he said, ‘Put a commission together, show me the right way to do it legally.’"
D. Hocking Verified Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Trump: "Do you know, if you were a Christian in Syria, it was impossible, very, very—at least very, very tough to get into the United States? If you were a Muslim, you could come in, but if you were a Christian, it was almost impossible." I have read a few articles that say that the facts do not really back this up, and Trump has not offered any proof. I should probably give Trump the benefit of the doubt and assume the articles I read were fake news. I am still annoyed he is treating his SCT pic like it is the finale of the Apprentice -- bringing two candidates to DC to build suspense, waiting until prime time etc... I wonder if he will release the two candidates into some sort of bio dome with a bunch of traps and have the last one breathing be his pick.
ashbury Verified Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 One of the good things is the ACLU has gotten more funding in the last 5 days then it literally has in the last 7 years.Well, that's probably hyperbole by a smidgen. The past weekend they pulled in 6X a normal weekend, according to their press release.
jimmer Verified Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Well, that's probably hyperbole by a smidgen. The past weekend they pulled in 6X a normal weekend, according to their press release.That press release didn't say 6X a normal weekend. It said, 'The American Civil Liberties Union said it received $24.1 million in online donations over the weekend. In a normal year, the activist group makes about $4 million in online donations. In one weekend, it raised six times as much money.'
biggentleben Verified Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 So, I had way too much time on my hands as I was getting my brain free from baseball research, and I reviewed some of the executive orders. Seriously, what in the actual hell?! Orders to de-fund agencies that never received funding in the first place. Orders to cut off representation to organizations that the United States has not participated in for years. CIA and DOD both saying that the order to re-institute torture was never once run by them for verbage or even approval/support. This is like the 8th grade student council president going rogue and writing a new set of rules for the council without consulting the student council adviser to find out proper wording and government structure. Holy cow.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Yeesh, that guy is straight out of crazy town.
jimmer Verified Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Yeesh, that guy is straight out of crazy town.who?
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Destroy the Monster!!!Trumpenstein.jpgDo one with Bannon, please.
D. Hocking Verified Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Scalia died almost a year ago. I know this is 20-20 hindsight, and they probably figured it was not as important because they thought Hilary would win, but I really wish they would have done more to force the issue of Obama appointing someone. He had 11 months in office after Scalia died. I know McConnell was refusing to do anything, but it seems like that it was accepted a little too easily. Again, probably because they thought it would not matter because Hilary would appoint someone, but did not exactly work out well.
biggentleben Verified Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 So, I had way too much time on my hands as I was getting my brain free from baseball research, and I reviewed some of the executive orders. Seriously, what in the actual hell?! Orders to de-fund agencies that never received funding in the first place. Orders to cut off representation to organizations that the United States has not participated in for years. CIA and DOD both saying that the order to re-institute torture was never once run by them for verbage or even approval/support. This is like the 8th grade student council president going rogue and writing a new set of rules for the council without consulting the student council adviser to find out proper wording and government structure. Holy cow. One of my favorites was the wording of the order that "removed" the US from the TPP...which Congress had not approved yet. Political grand standing at its finest, and the country was never officially even IN the TPP.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Well, that's probably hyperbole by a smidgen. The past weekend they pulled in 6X a normal weekend, according to their press release.Could be wrong, but I swear I read they get about 4 million a year or so in donations online. 4 million a week would be 200 million a year in online donations which seems kind of high to me. Apologies if I was wrong before, may have mis read or mos remembered
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 who? All of them. (But specifically Guroche. And Devos)
jimmer Verified Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 All of them. (But specifically Guroche. And Devos)I'll have to read more on Guroche. Must have missed the stuff that makes him unfit like almost everyone else Trump put nominates/hires.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 "but they were chopping off the heads of everybody, but more so the Christians. And I thought it was very, very unfair.Is that too dark for my signature? That was a rhetorical question, because it already is. No one swings from hyperbole to understated like this guy does, he has no clue how to asses anything accurately. It's like he's incapable grasping the reality of each and every situation.
drjim Provisional Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Gorsuch is a masterstroke by Trump.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 I'll have to read more on Guroche. Must have missed the stuff that makes him unfit like almost everyone else Trump put nominates/hires. He's fit, just really far right. So probably unfair to compare the two.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Doesn't sound worse than Scalia? So while it sucks, things don't change much? Key is Ginsburg stays healthy for the next 4 years IMO...
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Though the **** part of course is he could sit on the court for another 40 years potentially.... I think we look into limits for SCOTUS personally. Maybe 20 years? They can "resign" early if they want to help pick a successor? Etc?
D. Hocking Verified Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 I would feel better if it was Hobbes who had Trump's ear rather than Bannon or Pence. Of course, with the Trump boys and their desire to make exotic animals as trophies, it might not be a good job for him to take.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Gorsuch is a masterstroke by Trump.Ugh. If consolidating the religious wing of the party would be the goal...
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Though the **** part of course is he could sit on the court for another 40 years potentially....I think we look into limits for SCOTUS personally. Maybe 20 years? They can "resign" early if they want to help pick a successor? Etc?Justices should be approved by supermajority. It would enforce moderation among other things.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Justices should be approved by supermajority. It would enforce moderation among other things.Or just let the people vote on SCOTUS, logistically it can be difficult, but not if you set term limits and have safeguards in place if someone retires or dies "early"
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