The lowest point of a season full of low points

[gunnarthor]

 

Entropy caused the downfall of the 4th Doctor.  Similar story with Terry Ryan.

 

Pertwee was also very good in the role.  For the new series, Matt Smith was very good but the only true misfire is the new bloke.  I suspect that Moffat has being trying to suck himself out of the job of producer with the ridiculous stories recently, much like John Nathan-Turner tried to do in the 80s.  Luckily this time a new guy will come in and the series will continue.  

 

There were good stories last year, mind you, but the rubbish was hard to forget.  Russell T. Davies had some very bad episodes as well, but his good episodes were so good that it was easy to move past the bad ones.

RTD seemed to have a better understanding of the Doctor and his story.  Tennant's doctor always seemed to me to be a very smart alien.  Slightly apart.  Moffat's doctor is a really smart human and he seemed to want to retcon everything back to what it used to be.  RTD also had better arcs although individual episodes could be clunky - although I think the best episodes of the Tennant years - Fires of pompeii, Midnight, Blink, Family of Blood - were better than anything in the Smith years.

 

I gave up on the Capaldi Doctor after the Robin Hood episode had him shoot an arrow and hit a rocket ship.  

[Doomtints]

 

I still haven't watched last year....it costs all of $2 an episode on Amazon, and we know the day I buy the season is the day it goes free....

 

Obviously, given my age, Baker has a special spot in my heart, but Tennant was amazing.

 

If you are a longtime fan you may just want to skip last year.  Seeing The Doctor be in a room where soldiers do a drone strike without doing anything to try to stop it will probably give you a similar reaction to what it gave me -- this just isn't Doctor Who.  Capaldi gave a speech in the following episode which will go down as the best scene in his entire career, and this was the only thing that made me decide to continue watching.  And I'm the biggest fan I know.

 

Overall, last year was a bunch of Kill The Moon episodes with some good moments thrown in for nostalgia. 

[Doomtints]

 

RTD seemed to have a better understanding of the Doctor and his story.  Tennant's doctor always seemed to me to be a very smart alien.  Slightly apart.  Moffat's doctor is a really smart human and he seemed to want to retcon everything back to what it used to be.  RTD also had better arcs although individual episodes could be clunky - although I think the best episodes of the Tennant years - Fires of pompeii, Midnight, Blink, Family of Blood - were better than anything in the Smith years.

 

I gave up on the Capaldi Doctor after the Robin Hood episode had him shoot an arrow and hit a rocket ship.  

 

I was huge on Tennant but Smith won me over with time, and I never thought he would.

 

The Chicago Institute of Art had an exhibition earlier this year on Van Gogh's bedroom paintings.  Matt Smith's Van Gogh episode was part of the exhibit since the episode had a lot of scenes in his bedroom.  Very cool stuff.

[Loosey]

My son got into trouble at school the other day.  Tonight I am bringing him to a Twins game.  Please don't call social services, I'm just teaching him a lesson.

[wavedog]

 

This stuff has been going on all season long. Smart enough players playing really dumb baseball, and almost everyone on the team playing far below their talent level. It's a combination of too many players with poor "make-up" and an incredulous failure in leadership from players, coaches, and the manager.

Agree!  My low point may be a tie between the 13 game losing streak and this series with Detroit at home.   The 13 game streak because before that we had moved the young guys in and we were playing respectable maybe on pace to hit 70 wins and then the bottom fell out with that losing streak removing any optimism for the future.   This Detroit series was just embarrassing from their effort or lack thereof - not being competitive.   Certain players have quit on the season and I get it they were eliminated in April but it is still a matter of pride in your performance.  This would not happen if there was strong leadership either from a veteran player or stronger manager.  If this does not change I don't expect any different results next year.     

[gocgo]

Off topic - who do you think does the Twins Caravan next year?  Dozier again?  Kepler?  Buxton?  They need popular names to bring out the fans.  Going on the tour and not having fans show up wouldn't look good.  Going on tour with guys who don't even make the team wouldn't be good.

[EddieMatthews]

Back to earth.  I thought the low point was at the KC Twins game on Sept 6.  After a solid start from Santana, Pressly is called in relief in the 7th with a 3-2 Twins lead and runners on 1 and 2 with none out.  Escobar singles in a run to tie the game and take away Santana's win.  

 

Then in the ninth Kintzler allows two singles and a walk to load the bases.  With the infield in, the Twins get a force at home for out 1.  Kintzler then allows a single through the drawn in infield to score a run for KC.  O'Rourke comes in with one out and the bases loaded, and again with a drawn in infield, gets a ground ball to Dozier.  Dozier throws home for out # 2.  Why he didn't throw to second to start a double play, I don't understand.  It could have been a 4-3 game going into the bottom of the 9th.

 

At any rate, in comes Pat Light.  Same guy.  He allows a single for two runs, and then another single for a run, followed by a homer for 3 more runs.  10-3 game.  

 

I don't know who was more shell-shocked, the fans or the players.  That's my low point.

[USAFChief]

 

Dear Moderators,

If the software will let you lift out the portion of this thread related to the Dr. topic, and place it in a new thread in the Sports Bar, I don't think people would be upset.

Thank you,

People of Earth.

PS - it's a conversation that would be fun to continue, but not at the expense of gocgo's thread.

I just consider those posts the low point of a thread full of low points.

[Mike Sixel]

 

I just consider those posts the low point of a thread full of low points.

 

hahahahah. so glad I am on mute right now

[Doomtints]

Two possibilities:  

 

1)  The relievers are so terrible that everyone needs to be able to handle high leverage situations because everyone is worn down.  Thus, we see people like Pat Light, green as green can be in the majors, being used in situations that he should not be.

 

2)  Molitor has no clue who should go into games in certain situations and the relievers will be fine if used correctly.  

 

It's impossible to know which is true.  

 

Light has struggled with each promotion, but the Twins don't have the luxury of putting him in at selective times for one of the above two reasons.

 

Maybe next year.  

[alskntwnsfn]

 

Off topic - who do you think does the Twins Caravan next year?  Dozier again?  Kepler?  Buxton?  They need popular names to bring out the fans.  Going on the tour and not having fans show up wouldn't look good.  Going on tour with guys who don't even make the team wouldn't be good.

Just order about a dozen more TC Bear costumes, some Kirby Puckett cut-outs, and make sure Bert and Jack clear their schedules. Oh yeah, and Dozier... other than that... tough sell. I don't envy the boys in the marketing department these days. Frankly, I thought their "Ticket to Summer" idea was practically genius. Come for the experience of a baseball game, not to watch a quality baseball game. Nevermind you could go over to St. Paul and get a similar experience for a fraction of the price. 

[Doomtints]

I want to add ... yes this game was clearly the low point of the season.  150 people in the stands.  The Twins announcing over the PA that the day's attendance was 18,000 and everyone hearing the Detroit announcers laughing at that in the booth (because everything in the stadium could be heard).

 

Then the Twins play a rookie in a high leverage situation.  The rookie commits a wild pitch while attempting an intentional walk, and the blowout begins.  This was all in the 9th inning.

 

This was the low point of the season and of the decade.  Possibly of the franchise.  This was a dehumanizing, embarrassing game.  There would probably be more outrage if anyone was still paying attention.

[Mike Sixel]

I don't buy the "rookies shouldn't be in high leverage situations" argument at all. 

[theBOMisthebomb]

Kevin Jepsen.

[HitInAPinch]

Just checking in:    Does Buxton still suck?  

[Mr. Brooks]

I want to add ... yes this game was clearly the low point of the season. 150 people in the stands. The Twins announcing over the PA that the day's attendance was 18,000 and everyone hearing the Detroit announcers laughing at that in the booth (because everything in the stadium could be heard).

 

Then the Twins play a rookie in a high leverage situation. The rookie commits a wild pitch while attempting an intentional walk, and the blowout begins. This was all in the 9th inning.

 

This was the low point of the season and of the decade. Possibly of the franchise. This was a dehumanizing, embarrassing game. There would probably be more outrage if anyone was still paying attention.

Just a few minor tweaks and we are a playoff team next year!

[Oldgoat_MN]

 

Yes.  The Twins got a hardware upgrade in 2010 but then reinstalled an OS from three years earlier.  

 

What followed was system slowness and crashes due to software incompatibilities.  An aversion to buying new software that could address these issues was a contributing factor.  You can't always rely on your own programmers.  

 

Rebooting each year hasn't fixed it.  It's time for a clean install of an updated OS.

 

Pohlad is a n00b!

 

54686174207761732070726574747920676F6F642E2049206C696B6564206974!

 

[Oldgoat_MN]

 

With our luck, it would be the Wizards though.

 

Or the the Generals!

 

(for those who don't remember when the Harlem globetrotters were big, the Washington Generals lost all but 6 games of over 13,000 games played)

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

Just order about a dozen more TC Bear costumes, some Kirby Puckett cut-outs, and make sure Bert and Jack clear their schedules. Oh yeah, and Dozier... other than that... tough sell. I don't envy the boys in the marketing department these days. Frankly, I thought their "Ticket to Summer" idea was practically genius. Come for the experience of a baseball game, not to watch a quality baseball game. Nevermind you could go over to St. Paul and get a similar experience for a fraction of the price. 

 

Perhaps a Saints Twins game at TF is the in works?  Think of the marketing there...  and the Twins still give up 10 runs.

[AlwaysinModeration]

My son got into trouble at school the other day. Tonight I am bringing him to a Twins game. Please don't call social services, I'm just teaching him a lesson.

This is pure parenting genius, right there.

[gocgo]

 

Just checking in:    Does Buxton still suck?  

No but now the rest of the team looks much worse.

[AlwaysinModeration]

I was following the game on gameday, and after Light had thrown something like 13 balls and 2 strikes, and then wild pitches the runners to second and third, I thought to myself, I wonder if a game has ever been lost on a wild pitch intentional pitch? Gameday then froze and it was at least a minute or two before it became clear that is what happened.

 

Anyhow, the two low points of the season for me remain:

1. The Arcia bicycle kick

2. Going ahead in the 15th inning in Washington, having two outs in the bottom of the 15th, and the Nats down to pitchers on their bench, and Oliver Perez come on to pinch hit, (Molitor brings in Tonkin for O'Rourke to face the lefty pitcher Perez), Perez tries to bunt for a hit (with two outs). John Ryan Murphy throws the ball away down the right field line, and the tying run scores from second.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

I was following the game on gameday, and after Light had thrown something like 13 balls and 2 strikes, and then wild pitches the runners to second and third, I thought to myself, I wonder if a game has ever been lost on a wild pitch intentional pitch? Gameday then froze and it was at least a minute or two before it became clear that is what happened.

Anyhow, the two low points of the season for me remain:
1. The Arcia bicycle kick
2. Going ahead in the 15th inning in Washington, having two outs in the bottom of the 15th, and the Nats down to pitchers on their bench, and Oliver Perez come on to pinch hit, (Molitor brings in Tonkin for O'Rourke to face the lefty pitcher Perez), Perez tries to bunt for a hit (with two outs). John Ryan Murphy throws the ball away down the right field line, and the tying run scores from second.

 

wow, that's beer league softball kind of mistakes there.

[TheLeviathan]

 

My son got into trouble at school the other day.  Tonight I am bringing him to a Twins game.  Please don't call social services, I'm just teaching him a lesson.

 

High point of the thread. 

[DocBauer]

I can pick only one?!

[Jham]

I'ma pick righhht now.  Grossman with 2 bad errors on 1 play to put the Twins down 8-0.  Now if that doesn't sum up the season...

[Bark's Lounge]

My low moment was turning the TV on. I should have stuck to my internet videos on being a class act assistant janitor.

[Guest]

Pat Light : going from Abad to Worse.

[snepp]

 

With our luck, it would be the Wizards though.

 

Can they pitch?

[snepp]

 

My son got into trouble at school the other day.  Tonight I am bringing him to a Twins game.  Please don't call social services, I'm just teaching him a lesson.

 

This post didn't receive even a tiny fraction of the likes it deserved.

 

 

That said...

 

 

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