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Platoon Cedar Rapids Kernels

Platoon

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Is this supposed to be funny, satirical, thought-provoking, none of the above or nothing at all?

I am going to go with satirical, you never ever fire a manager in the middle of a winning streak! :)
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I am going to go with satirical, you never ever fire a manager in the middle of a winning streak! :)

If this is the MIDDLE of the winning streak, streak=2.

If this is the END of the winning streak, streak =1.

If this is the BEGINNING of the winning streak, streak>1.

sane16 College Ball

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I think Molitor is a good manager to get us to 1 win, but I think we need some new blood to take us to the next level: 2 wins. :)

The "next level" is TWO wins?

Don't set the bar too high....

jimbo92107 Cedar Rapids Kernels

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"Shut yer trap before the flies lay eggs." - my Daddy, rest his soul

 

There have been lots of suggestions how Paul Molitor should cure the team's early offensive woes, but most of them were far sillier and more reactionary than simply letting them work through their early struggles as young players must do. 

 

Currently Sano, Park, Buxton and Rosario are batting like Drew Butera on a bad day. Maybe we should send them all to AAA. Maybe they should all bunt. Maybe they should stop trying to pull everything. Lotsa maybes. 

 

You can tell them they should go up there with a plan, but what does that really mean? 

 

Yesterday Joe Mauer gave an eloquent demonstration what that means. By politely questioning a couple borderline outside sliders, Mauer was able to snooker the pitcher into throwing a third one in exactly the same place, which was just what Mauer wanted. Bang, single, run scored. In his polite, understated way Joe Mauer showed Miguel Sano that if you're going to complain about a call, do it for a tactical reason, not because you're really frustrated. Don't ever tip your hand.

 

Thing is, while we noticed that outstanding example of gamesmanship, Paul Molitor understands the game just as well as Mauer does. He sees that he's got some young players that are just now learning to play the game at the highest level, and he's giving them lots of slack to figure it out. They will lose, and lose, and lose, but they will learn. 

 

2016 is going to be an even bigger transition year than 2015 was. We will see more progress this year, but not all of it will manifest as wins. As fans, we have to be willing to burn this season and enjoy the Twins for what they now are - a very young group of very promising, but very inexperienced players. We will see plenty of exasperating failures, along with glimpses of what they will become in just a couple more years. We must decide to enjoy it for what it is, which is a developmental cycle of what will become a very good baseball team. In about 2018. 

jimmer Wichita Wind Surge

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I have no desire for Molitor to get fired, but I'm not thrilled with the goalposts continuously being moved back and being okay with it.

spinowner Ft Myers Mighty Mussels

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"Shut yer trap before the flies lay eggs." - my Daddy, rest his soul

 

There have been lots of suggestions how Paul Molitor should cure the team's early offensive woes, but most of them were far sillier and more reactionary than simply letting them work through their early struggles as young players must do. 

 

Currently Sano, Park, Buxton and Rosario are batting like Drew Butera on a bad day. Maybe we should send them all to AAA. Maybe they should all bunt. Maybe they should stop trying to pull everything. Lotsa maybes. 

 

You can tell them they should go up there with a plan, but what does that really mean? 

 

Yesterday Joe Mauer gave an eloquent demonstration what that means. By politely questioning a couple borderline outside sliders, Mauer was able to snooker the pitcher into throwing a third one in exactly the same place, which was just what Mauer wanted. Bang, single, run scored. In his polite, understated way Joe Mauer showed Miguel Sano that if you're going to complain about a call, do it for a tactical reason, not because you're really frustrated. Don't ever tip your hand.

 

Thing is, while we noticed that outstanding example of gamesmanship, Paul Molitor understands the game just as well as Mauer does. He sees that he's got some young players that are just now learning to play the game at the highest level, and he's giving them lots of slack to figure it out. They will lose, and lose, and lose, but they will learn. 

 

2016 is going to be an even bigger transition year than 2015 was. We will see more progress this year, but not all of it will manifest as wins. As fans, we have to be willing to burn this season and enjoy the Twins for what they now are - a very young group of very promising, but very inexperienced players. We will see plenty of exasperating failures, along with glimpses of what they will become in just a couple more years. We must decide to enjoy it for what it is, which is a developmental cycle of what will become a very good baseball team. In about 2018. 

Really good post. I think Molitor made a comment a couple weeks ago that as talented as he was as a player during his first few years in the majors he really didn't know how to play the game. There's a lot of subtle stuff that you can learn only by doing.

David HK Ft Myers Mighty Mussels

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Really good post. I think Molitor made a comment a couple weeks ago that as talented as he was as a player during his first few years in the majors he really didn't know how to play the game. There's a lot of subtle stuff that you can learn only by doing.

That must be why he's left .087 Kurt Suzuki in to hit numerous times this season so far, (twice in the last game), in crucial pinch-hitting situations.  So he can start to learn all that subtle stuff.  He's only been around 10 years or so, lots to figure out.   And why he left an obviously tiring soft-tossing lefty in after his team took one of their only leads of the season, to face his 3rd trip through the batting order, which he's historically got trouble doing, instead of putting in a flame-throwing righty to change up the timing of the opposition....  

Molly, all of last year, and so far this season, has made multiple intensely ridiculous decisions.  Sometimes I catch myself wondering what he's doing in the dugout, if he's even paying attention to the game, or knows his own team's batting order-- (bunting a guy over, leaving 1st base open for his hottest hitter to be walked, bringing up an automatic strikeout).  

Some folks have noted he seems sometimes to be playing checkers while the oppo plays chess-  but i think sometimes, it's like he's not playing anything at all.

 

Blake All-Star

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kinda hard to believe no one has stuck a fork in anybody yet ...

I think that's been replaced by sacrificing scottz.

Ncgo4 Draft Eligible

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Let's see, now. Park whilst learning to hit ML hitting gets 3 dingers in 4 games. Great! What does Molitor do? Benches him the next 3 games? Nah, that would be just stupid!

 

Yeah, that's exactly what he's done.

alarp33 FCL Twins

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Let's see, now. Park whilst learning to hit ML hitting gets 3 dingers in 4 games. Great! What does Molitor do? Benches him the next 3 games? Nah, that would be just stupid!

Yeah, that's exactly what he's done.

Psst: There's no DH in the National League

Hosken Bombo Disco All-Star

Hosken Bombo Disco

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Let's see, now. Park whilst learning to hit ML hitting gets 3 dingers in 4 games. Great! What does Molitor do? Benches him the next 3 games? Nah, that would be just stupid!

Yeah, that's exactly what he's done.

Where would you have played Park tonight? Remember there's no DH in the NL :)
twinsnorth49 St Paul Saints

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Where would you have played Park tonight? Remember there's no DH in the NL :)

It was suggested in the Game Thread by a couple people to put Sano at 3rd, play Park at 1st and put Mauer in RF. I don't think that is anywhere near crazy, it certainly doesn't make your defense any worse (I'd say arguably better) and it gets Park's bat in. 

formerly33 Ft Myers Mighty Mussels

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Where would you have played Park tonight? Remember there's no DH in the NL :)

Nunez 2B
Mauer RF
Sano 3B
Park 1B

Escobar SS
Rosario LF
Suzuki C
Gibson P
Buxton CF

 

:confused: Just a thought.

 

Note to Hrbowski:

 

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