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Man vs God, aka, Batman vs Supes

Mike Sixel

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Mike Sixel

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I don't know if I'll go see this, or not. I have very, very, low expectations. Superman is boring. Really boring.

 

So, let me know, once you see it, if it is any good, thanks,

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I'm glad to hear someone else finds Superman oppressingly boring.  

 

I love Batman, but that's not enough to get me to go see this.  I'll give my money to movies I think are trying to tell a good story like Cap Civil War or Xmen Apocalypse.

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I'm told I have to watch daredevil. Once we finish the "new season" of xfiles next week, I'll start that series.

 

Yes, you do.  It took a relatively uninteresting character (for me), spliced him with some batman themes, and combined some excellent acting and story telling into an excellent show.  I think you'll like it.

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Yes, you do.  It took a relatively uninteresting character (for me), spliced him with some batman themes

Actually, the DD show isn't doing anything new with the character. It's pulling directly from Frank Miller's 1979-1984(ish) run, which established the modern version of Daredevil we think of today.

 

Miller then later went to work on Batman and reestablished many of the tones we (again) associate with Batman (such as DKR, the book this abomination of a movie is loosely based upon... He also wrote Year One, Batman's "definitive" origin story).

 

But he did it on Daredevil first.

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Actually, the DD show isn't doing anything new with the character. It's pulling directly from Frank Miller's 1979-1984(ish) run, which established the modern version of Daredevil we think of today.

 

Miller then later went to work on Batman and reestablished many of the tones we (again) associate with Batman (such as DKR, the book this abomination of a movie is loosely based upon).

 

But he did it on Daredevil first.

 

I know, Daredevil is just....so....boring.  It's probably the relative lack of compelling side characters compared to Batman.

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I know, Daredevil is just....so....boring.  It's probably the relative lack of compelling side characters compared to Batman.

Not to get uppity, but how is Daredevil boring? He has Elektra, the Kingpin, Bullseye, Stick, The Hand, etc...

 

Daredevil was also the origin of the Purple Man (Killgrave), though the character was left largely untapped until Bendis put life into the character in Alias.

 

Daredevil actually has a pretty long, rich history of stories once you get past the laughfest that was the first 20-30 issues of the book (which were absolutely hilarious... Stilt Man? Are you ****ting me?).

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I'm miffed by the concept of this movie almost as much as I'm miffed about the buildup for it. I just don't get it on any level.

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Not to get uppity, but how is Daredevil boring? He has Elektra, the Kingpin, Bullseye, Stick, The Hand, etc...

 

Daredevil was also the origin of the Purple Man (Killgrave), though the character was left largely untapped until Bendis put life into the character in Alias.

 

Daredevil actually has a pretty long, rich history of stories once you get past the laughfest that was the first 20-30 issues of the book (which were absolutely hilarious... Stilt Man? Are you ****ting me?).

Daredevil is awesome.  One of my very favorite superheros.  Season One was incredible.  Season Two has been good so far (about six episodes in).  Season Three has got to give us Bullseye, right?

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Not to get uppity, but how is Daredevil boring? He has Elektra, the Kingpin, Bullseye, Stick, The Hand, etc...

 

Daredevil was also the origin of the Purple Man (Killgrave), though the character was left largely untapped until Bendis put life into the character in Alias.

 

Daredevil actually has a pretty long, rich history of stories once you get past the laughfest that was the first 20-30 issues of the book (which were absolutely hilarious... Stilt Man? Are you ****ting me?).

 

The Joker alone pretty much destroys all those examples.  Kingpin is a good character and Bullseye is alright, but for the most part it just pales.

 

Then again, pretty much everyone pales in comparison to Batman for supporting cast.

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Daredevil is awesome. One of my very favorite superheros. Season One was incredible. Season Two has been good so far (about six episodes in). Season Three has got to give us Bullseye, right?

That's my guess. He's the big missing piece in DD lore thus far. Haven't finished season two yet but Bullseye plays a *key* role in DD lore that I don't believe the show has tapped yet... I'll skip spoilers for those of you not familiar with the book.
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The Joker alone pretty much destroys all those examples. Kingpin is a good character and Bullseye is alright, but for the most part it just pales.

 

Then again, pretty much everyone pales in comparison to Batman for supporting cast.

Dunno, The Hand is amazing and plays a role that Nolan kinda aped in Batman Begins.

 

DD has many stories that rival Batman and I'm saying that as a giant Batman knob.

 

Batman has a fabulous supporting cast, though. Maaaaaybe the Fantastic Four rival him? FF has amazing villains. It's too bad the movies have been unwatchable.

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Dunno, The Hand is amazing and plays a role that Nolan kinda aped in Batman Begins.

DD has many stories that rival Batman and I'm saying that as a giant Batman knob.

Batman has a fabulous supporting cast, though. Maaaaaybe the Fantastic Four rival him? FF has amazing villains. It's too bad the movies have been unwatchable.

 

Guess it depends what you count as a supporting cast.  I'll grant that Daredevil's group is far better than pretty much any of the Avengers, so he's got that going for him.

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Guess it depends what you count as a supporting cast. I'll grant that Daredevil's group is far better than pretty much any of the Avengers, so he's got that going for him.

Well, it didn't help that Marvel turned one of Iron Man's few truly great villains into a sideshow in IM3. One of Marvel's few missteps thus far.
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Geek fight. Nerds are something entirely different.

 

If you want to argue the benefits of PHP vs .NET or string theory, that's a straight up nerd fight.

 

Geeks are fans. Nerds are smart.

sounds like something a nerd would say....
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Well, it didn't help that Marvel turned one of Iron Man's few truly great villains into a sideshow in IM3. One of Marvel's few missteps thus far.

I kind of thought by having The Mandarin a fraud, they kind of left the door open for there to be a real guy behind the charade, perhaps behind Killian as well if it helps the writers.

 

But the character is a bit delicate ethnically, and maybe is best left alone in a world where Asia provides huge boosts to blockbuster films.

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Still made a pile of money...

 

"Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice shattered box office records, opening to an estimated $170.1 million domestically over Easter weekend.

 

Not only did Zack Snyder’s superhero epic set a new record for the all-time biggest March opening, obliterating The Hunger Games’ $152.5 million, but Batman v Superman now stands as the sixth biggest opening of all time. It also squeaked by Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 ($169.2 million) to earn Warner Bros.’ biggest opening ever."

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I do expect Cap:Civil War to mop the floor with this, and it will be getting some of my money too. :)

Concur.

 

I'm skipping the Batman v Superman thing ... does not appeal, at all. I think I'll be seeing 'Hello, My Name Is Doris' instead.

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Concur.

 

I'm skipping the Batman v Superman thing ... does not appeal, at all. I think I'll be seeing 'Hello, My Name Is Doris' instead.

That was our second choice yesterday afternoon, after Zootopia was sold out for the rest of the day, but alas it was also sold out. I guess I won't be seeing any first run movies until the next recession.

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