jokin Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2014 Author Posted June 1, 2014 Posters here are wound too tight. It's just baseball. Watch the game, enjoy,--it isn't life or death. May i suggest that cancer, TJ surgery and eye injuries probably shouldn't be used for sarcastic journalistic foils.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 None of that means sliding head first is a good idea......
steve Verified Member Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 The internet has a long history failing to identity sarcasm. In 2001 Alan Morgan wrote: "Any sufficiently advanced troll is indistinguishable from a genuine kook."
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Thanks, and to Seth as well, for doing some fact checking. It does seem likely that if this was a true report someone else would have at least mentioned it. Just to be honest, I did no fact checking. I read it. Read who wrote it, and knew what it was.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Just to be honest, I did no fact checking. I read it. Read who wrote it, and knew what it was. Fact checking by experience.
deanlambrecht Verified Member Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 I get sarcastic, but the bigger point is that Reusse and his minions are on a reckless and relentless campaign against something they don't like going on with the Twins. They shouldn't be using the repertorial tools and then blurring the line between clown posting and reporting (especially with the Twins beat writer in on the gimmick). Your mistake here is in thinking that Reusse and his minions ever use reportorial tools. Absolute hacks. Until the Twins Daily collective and Berardino showed up, we've had very little decent baseball reporting in our market, IMO. Reusse is utterly ridiculous.
glunn Community Moderator Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Reusse should have no credibility in the future.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Your mistake here is in thinking that Reusse and his minions ever use reportorial tools. Absolute hacks. Until the Twins Daily collective and Berardino showed up, we've had very little decent baseball reporting in our market, IMO. Reusse is utterly ridiculous. Miller and Bollinger are ok, too. Maybe they haven't figured out yet that posting nonsense can get a lot of page hits.
twinsfanstreif Provisional Member Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Let's see, so far it's cost them Buxton and Santana, anyone else I've left out? A few years ago I think it cost punto and Cuddyer some time, does any one else remember that?
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Well, to each his own...my first reaction to this was to chuckle. I mean c'mon..."Dr Andrews to perform eyelid replacement surgery"? aka the Danny Santana Surgery
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Reusse should have no credibility in the future. Like he ever did in the past
Bark's Lounge Verified Member Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Snake Pliskin made it through this situation. So can Danny Santana.
cmathewson Provisional Member Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 A few years ago I think it cost punto and Cuddyer some time, does any one else remember that? i remember Punto dislocated his shoulder sliding into first base on a routine grounder. Or maye it was the back end of a DP. Serves him right. The absolute worst was Kent Hrbek, who legged out a triple in spring training and dislocated his shoulder sliding head first into third base the day after we traded his backup. He never hit more than 20 homers in a season afterwards.
howeda7 Verified Member Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Well, to each his own...my first reaction to this was to chuckle. I mean c'mon..."Dr Andrews to perform eyelid replacement surgery"? This. Even for those sensitive about eye injuries, the 'Dr. Andrews' part clearly marks it as a joke. Lighten up, Francis.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Lighten up, Francis. [video=youtube;0OnpkDWbeJs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnpkDWbeJs
twinsfanstreif Provisional Member Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 i remember Punto dislocated his shoulder sliding into first base on a routine grounder. Or maye it was the back end of a DP. Serves him right. The absolute worst was Kent Hrbek, who legged out a triple in spring training and dislocated his shoulder sliding head first into third base the day after we traded his backup. He never hit more than 20 homers in a season afterwards. I thought it was Punto's thumb, maybe that was Cuddyer. I also forgot about Morneau. Is that how Koskie had his career ended?
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 No, Koskie was trying to catch a foul ball pop-up down the line and crashed hard.
notoriousgod71 Verified Member Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 i remember Punto dislocated his shoulder sliding into first base on a routine grounder. Or maye it was the back end of a DP. Serves him right. The absolute worst was Kent Hrbek, who legged out a triple in spring training and dislocated his shoulder sliding head first into third base the day after we traded his backup. He never hit more than 20 homers in a season afterwards. AKA the Curse of Sorrento.
cmathewson Provisional Member Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 I thought it was Punto's thumb, maybe that was Cuddyer. I also forgot about Morneau. Is that how Koskie had his career ended? Cuddy hurt his thumb sliding head first into second. Punto had three injuries related to sliding head first into bags. I just remember the worst one, which was a totally unnecessary head-first slide into first. He was out by 5 feet one way or the other. Incidentally, the Yankees announcers gave Gardiner a hard time for sliding head first into first in the eighth inning today. Said it slowed him down. I remember the Gardy "mandate' that Punto not slide into first, which was initiated when Punto hurt his shoulder. Punto just couldn't help himself. He did it at least 20 times after the mandate. Thing is, the Yankees announcers are right. If sliding head first was faster, you would see sprinters doing it all the time in track and field. The only time it makes sense is if you need to slow down and avoid a tag, which is fairly often at every other bag besides first.
stringer bell Verified Member Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Cuddy hurt his thumb sliding head first into second. Punto had three injuries related to sliding head first into bags. I just remember the worst one, which was a totally unnecessary head-first slide into first. He was out by 5 feet one way or the other. Incidentally, the Yankees announcers gave Gardiner a hard time for sliding head first into first in the eighth inning today. Said it slowed him down. I remember the Gardy "mandate' that Punto not slide into first, which was initiated when Punto hurt his shoulder. Punto just couldn't help himself. He did it at least 20 times after the mandate. Thing is, the Yankees announcers are right. If sliding head first was faster, you would see sprinters doing it all the time in track and field. The only time it makes sense is if you need to slow down and avoid a tag, which is fairly often at every other bag besides first. Sliding headfirst into first base is unnecessary and wrong. There is a case for that slide into second and third.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted June 2, 2014 Author Posted June 2, 2014 This. Even for those sensitive about eye injuries, the 'Dr. Andrews' part clearly marks it as a joke. Lighten up, Francis. Yeah, and clearly a distasteful and not funny joke. And the Dr Andrews part was the piling on part after Patrick's first post about a 60-day DL announcement.
Guest USAFChief Guests Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Not if it increases injuriesHonest question...would you forbid diving for catches as well as head first slides? Doing so probably increases injuries.
mnfireman Verified Member Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 I don't have an issue with head first slides (except at first base, and usually at home plate), but let's get these guys the correctly sized helmet. The helmet shouldn't fly off while a player is running the bases.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 No, since there is a safe alternative to sliding head first, that is kuat as effective......
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 They shouldn't be using the repertorial tools and then blurring the line between clown posting and reporting (especially with the Twins beat writer in on the gimmick). I'm "aghast" at how lightly you throw around the term "clown" given how traumatizing it can be for so many. Seriously, I'm not sure there is anything worse in discourse than trying to dictate to people what they can and can't joke about because of some personal issue/experience you have. You're welcome to think it's a bad joke for your own reasons, but trying to control what he jokes about? This kind of moral scolding for satire is so oppressively PC.
Marta Shearing Provisional Member Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Come on people. Outrage over a harmless Reusse tweet is nit picking. Why are people so easily outraged? Most would agree the Twins are a soft organization. I could care less if Reusse pokes fun at them from time to time.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted June 2, 2014 Author Posted June 2, 2014 I'm "aghast" at how lightly you throw around the term "clown" given how traumatizing it can be for so many. Seriously, I'm not sure there is anything worse in discourse than trying to dictate to people what they can and can't joke about because of some personal issue/experience you have. You're welcome to think it's a bad joke for your own reasons, but trying to control what he jokes about? This kind of moral scolding for satire is so oppressively PC. For the record, I'm not outraged or trying to dictate what people post, and this isn't a moral issue to me., I'm totally in favor of free speech and opposed to PC oppression. It's just that when you are a professional journalist it seems you have a duty, like someone in any profession, to maintain a semblance of journalistic standards. I would have been fine if Patrick had posted something like: "Santana on the bench again today with eyelid injury? Given the Twins SOP, probably on his way to the 60-day DL." His message of criticism to the organization (or to Santana's lack of fortitude, it's still not precisely clear who he was criticizing here, although I tend to think it was directed at "The Twins Soft Culture") through the use of sarcasm would have been sent, only it would have been communicated far more effectively, which presumably is the intent of every journalist.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted June 2, 2014 Author Posted June 2, 2014 Come on people. Outrage over a harmless Reusse tweet is nit picking. Why are people so easily outraged? Most would agree the Twins are a soft organization. I could care less if Reusse pokes fun at them from time to time. I'm all in favor of journalists poking fun at the organization, they deserve much of the criticism they have received, I've certainly participated in my share. I hope Reusse pokes fun at them every time they deserve it. But Patrick was rhetorically questioning why a guy was still sitting for a second day with a 7-stitch laceration on his swollen eyelid (and with that, it still was not made public if there was any potential underlying damage to the eye, the supporting muscles to the lid and eye itself and the tear ducts), the very body parts that make up a hitters' most important asset....the choice of words seems a little over the top, wouldn't you agree?
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 who is the joke on, again? I'd at least like to get a chuckle out of this.
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