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Posters here are wound too tight. It's just baseball. Watch the game, enjoy,--it isn't life or death.

 

May i suggest that cancer, TJ surgery and eye injuries probably shouldn't be used for sarcastic journalistic foils.

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The internet has a long history failing to identity sarcasm. In 2001 Alan Morgan wrote:

 

"Any sufficiently advanced troll is indistinguishable from a genuine kook."

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Thanks, and to Seth as well, for doing some fact checking. It does seem likely that if this was a true report someone else would have at least mentioned it.

 

Just to be honest, I did no fact checking. I read it. Read who wrote it, and knew what it was.

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Just to be honest, I did no fact checking. I read it. Read who wrote it, and knew what it was.

 

Fact checking by experience. :)

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I get sarcastic, but the bigger point is that Reusse and his minions are on a reckless and relentless campaign against something they don't like going on with the Twins. They shouldn't be using the repertorial tools and then blurring the line between clown posting and reporting (especially with the Twins beat writer in on the gimmick).

 

Your mistake here is in thinking that Reusse and his minions ever use reportorial tools. Absolute hacks. Until the Twins Daily collective and Berardino showed up, we've had very little decent baseball reporting in our market, IMO. Reusse is utterly ridiculous.

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Your mistake here is in thinking that Reusse and his minions ever use reportorial tools. Absolute hacks. Until the Twins Daily collective and Berardino showed up, we've had very little decent baseball reporting in our market, IMO. Reusse is utterly ridiculous.

 

Miller and Bollinger are ok, too. Maybe they haven't figured out yet that posting nonsense can get a lot of page hits.

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Let's see, so far it's cost them Buxton and Santana, anyone else I've left out?

 

A few years ago I think it cost punto and Cuddyer some time, does any one else remember that?

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Well, to each his own...my first reaction to this was to chuckle.

 

​I mean c'mon..."Dr Andrews to perform eyelid replacement surgery"?

 

aka the Danny Santana Surgery

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A few years ago I think it cost punto and Cuddyer some time, does any one else remember that?

 

i remember Punto dislocated his shoulder sliding into first base on a routine grounder. Or maye it was the back end of a DP. Serves him right.

 

The absolute worst was Kent Hrbek, who legged out a triple in spring training and dislocated his shoulder sliding head first into third base the day after we traded his backup. He never hit more than 20 homers in a season afterwards.

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Well, to each his own...my first reaction to this was to chuckle.

 

​I mean c'mon..."Dr Andrews to perform eyelid replacement surgery"?

 

This. Even for those sensitive about eye injuries, the 'Dr. Andrews' part clearly marks it as a joke. Lighten up, Francis.

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i remember Punto dislocated his shoulder sliding into first base on a routine grounder. Or maye it was the back end of a DP. Serves him right.

 

The absolute worst was Kent Hrbek, who legged out a triple in spring training and dislocated his shoulder sliding head first into third base the day after we traded his backup. He never hit more than 20 homers in a season afterwards.

 

I thought it was Punto's thumb, maybe that was Cuddyer. I also forgot about Morneau. Is that how Koskie had his career ended?

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i remember Punto dislocated his shoulder sliding into first base on a routine grounder. Or maye it was the back end of a DP. Serves him right.

 

The absolute worst was Kent Hrbek, who legged out a triple in spring training and dislocated his shoulder sliding head first into third base the day after we traded his backup. He never hit more than 20 homers in a season afterwards.

 

 

AKA the Curse of Sorrento.

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I thought it was Punto's thumb, maybe that was Cuddyer. I also forgot about Morneau. Is that how Koskie had his career ended?

 

Cuddy hurt his thumb sliding head first into second. Punto had three injuries related to sliding head first into bags. I just remember the worst one, which was a totally unnecessary head-first slide into first. He was out by 5 feet one way or the other.

 

Incidentally, the Yankees announcers gave Gardiner a hard time for sliding head first into first in the eighth inning today. Said it slowed him down. I remember the Gardy "mandate' that Punto not slide into first, which was initiated when Punto hurt his shoulder. Punto just couldn't help himself. He did it at least 20 times after the mandate.

 

Thing is, the Yankees announcers are right. If sliding head first was faster, you would see sprinters doing it all the time in track and field. The only time it makes sense is if you need to slow down and avoid a tag, which is fairly often at every other bag besides first.

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Cuddy hurt his thumb sliding head first into second. Punto had three injuries related to sliding head first into bags. I just remember the worst one, which was a totally unnecessary head-first slide into first. He was out by 5 feet one way or the other.

 

Incidentally, the Yankees announcers gave Gardiner a hard time for sliding head first into first in the eighth inning today. Said it slowed him down. I remember the Gardy "mandate' that Punto not slide into first, which was initiated when Punto hurt his shoulder. Punto just couldn't help himself. He did it at least 20 times after the mandate.

 

Thing is, the Yankees announcers are right. If sliding head first was faster, you would see sprinters doing it all the time in track and field. The only time it makes sense is if you need to slow down and avoid a tag, which is fairly often at every other bag besides first.

 

Sliding headfirst into first base is unnecessary and wrong. There is a case for that slide into second and third.

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This. Even for those sensitive about eye injuries, the 'Dr. Andrews' part clearly marks it as a joke. Lighten up, Francis.

 

 

Yeah, and clearly a distasteful and not funny joke. And the Dr Andrews part was the piling on part after Patrick's first post about a 60-day DL announcement.

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Not if it increases injuries

Honest question...would you forbid diving for catches as well as head first slides? Doing so probably increases injuries.

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I don't have an issue with head first slides (except at first base, and usually at home plate), but let's get these guys the correctly sized helmet. The helmet shouldn't fly off while a player is running the bases.

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They shouldn't be using the repertorial tools and then blurring the line between clown posting and reporting (especially with the Twins beat writer in on the gimmick).

 

I'm "aghast" at how lightly you throw around the term "clown" given how traumatizing it can be for so many.

 

Seriously, I'm not sure there is anything worse in discourse than trying to dictate to people what they can and can't joke about because of some personal issue/experience you have. You're welcome to think it's a bad joke for your own reasons, but trying to control what he jokes about? This kind of moral scolding for satire is so oppressively PC.

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Come on people. Outrage over a harmless Reusse tweet is nit picking. Why are people so easily outraged? Most would agree the Twins are a soft organization. I could care less if Reusse pokes fun at them from time to time.

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I'm "aghast" at how lightly you throw around the term "clown" given how traumatizing it can be for so many.

 

Seriously, I'm not sure there is anything worse in discourse than trying to dictate to people what they can and can't joke about because of some personal issue/experience you have. You're welcome to think it's a bad joke for your own reasons, but trying to control what he jokes about? This kind of moral scolding for satire is so oppressively PC.

 

For the record, I'm not outraged or trying to dictate what people post, and this isn't a moral issue to me., I'm totally in favor of free speech and opposed to PC oppression. It's just that when you are a professional journalist it seems you have a duty, like someone in any profession, to maintain a semblance of journalistic standards. I would have been fine if Patrick had posted something like:

 

"Santana on the bench again today with eyelid injury? Given the Twins SOP, probably on his way to the 60-day DL." His message of criticism to the organization (or to Santana's lack of fortitude, it's still not precisely clear who he was criticizing here, although I tend to think it was directed at "The Twins Soft Culture") through the use of sarcasm would have been sent, only it would have been communicated far more effectively, which presumably is the intent of every journalist.

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Come on people. Outrage over a harmless Reusse tweet is nit picking. Why are people so easily outraged? Most would agree the Twins are a soft organization. I could care less if Reusse pokes fun at them from time to time.

 

I'm all in favor of journalists poking fun at the organization, they deserve much of the criticism they have received, I've certainly participated in my share. I hope Reusse pokes fun at them every time they deserve it. But Patrick was rhetorically questioning why a guy was still sitting for a second day with a 7-stitch laceration on his swollen eyelid (and with that, it still was not made public if there was any potential underlying damage to the eye, the supporting muscles to the lid and eye itself and the tear ducts), the very body parts that make up a hitters' most important asset....the choice of words seems a little over the top, wouldn't you agree?

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