The sarcastic Santana injury tweets

[Marta Shearing]

Reusse explained himself pretty well on the Sports show tonight. He brought up the Arcia minor injury at the end of last year, his 8 day bout with food poisoning this spring, and then the wrist thing. Gardy doesn't put any pressure on these guys to play. They miss large stretches of games with minor stuff that most professionals play through. They're all too comfy. Who wants to play? I completely understand Reusse's frustration, and I applaud him poking fun at them.

[Ultima Ratio]

Anyone suggested that Santana find a helmet that fits? Seems like a root cause to me.

[Willihammer]

Reusse explained himself pretty well on the Sports show tonight.

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOM3CRhwDbbrUeN0VNOfmpg

 

/plug

[Seth Stohs]

by the way, I remember hearing Brad Steil say in a radio interview that Buxton was hurt (the re-aggravation) sliding feet first (somehow) into home.

 

I have zero problem with people sliding hands-first into the bases. I don't like it at first because it doesn't make you go faster, but don't have a problem with it at the other bases. The Santana injury was because he (like Nunez, Pinto and others) don't apparently want to wear helmets that fit and bounce or fly off when they run. Santana's injury was pretty fluky.

[Kirby_waved_at_me]

My question is this, as I missed seeing this weekend's games - Is he at least allowed to rock a cool eyepatch on the bench?

[cmathewson]

Reusse explained himself pretty well on the Sports show tonight. He brought up the Arcia minor injury at the end of last year, his 8 day bout with food poisoning this spring, and then the wrist thing. Gardy doesn't put any pressure on these guys to play. They miss large stretches of games with minor stuff that most professionals play through. They're all too comfy. Who wants to play? I completely understand Reusse's frustration, and I applaud him poking fun at them.

 

To make fun of a career-threatening injury is in bad taste. And he's a moron if he thinks wrist problems are trifling injuries.

[JB_Iowa]

Contrast the tweeting done by Mike Berardino and Patrick Reusse.

 

We have Reusse with his tweet:

 

Patrick Reusse @1500ESPN_Reusse · 20h

 

Danny Santana headed for 60-day w/ eyelid cut? @LaVelleNeal

 

And then LEN3's follow-up:

 

LaVelle E. Neal IIIVerified account‏@LaVelleNeal 20h

 

Dr. Andrews to perform eyelid replacement surgery RT @1500ESPN_Reusse: Danny Santana headed for 60-day w/ eyelid cut? @LaVelleNeal

 

 

On the other hand, we have Berardino:

 

Mike Berardino @MikeBerardino · 22h

 

Twinsights: Late-arriving Josmil Pinto gets "the treatment" from #mntwins teammates ...

 

Mike Berardino‏@MikeBerardino 17h

 

Talked to Josmil Pinto about previous note. Only reason he was late: Cab driver took him to Citi Field instead of Yankee Stadium. It happens

 

 

Mike Berardino @MikeBerardino · 17h

 

My apologies to Josmil Pinto, his fans and his family for any confusion I may have caused. Being late wasn't the point. Light humor was.

 

Mike Berardino @MikeBerardino · 16h

 

Updated Twinsights: Wayward taxi driver takes Josmil Pinto to a stadium in the wrong borough. #MNTwinshttp://blogs.twincities.com/twins/2014/06/

 

 

Will we see an apology or explanation today from Reusse to Santana or to people who may have misinterpreted his tweet?

 

I doubt it. "Journalists" and bloggers need to understand that there should be a distinction between what they tweet on something that reflects their profession (in this case, the tweet came from @1500ESPN_Reusse) than from something they might tweet on a personal account. Higher standards should apply on the professional account.

 

Reusse should issue an apology/explanation.

[scottz]

I think the summary of this post is that no one should write words. From now on when you write, don't use words.

[Squirrel]

Contrast the tweeting done by Mike Berardino and Patrick Reusse.

 

We have Reusse with his tweet:

 

Patrick Reusse @1500ESPN_Reusse · 20h

 

Danny Santana headed for 60-day w/ eyelid cut? @LaVelleNeal

 

And then LEN3's follow-up:

 

LaVelle E. Neal IIIVerified account‏@LaVelleNeal 20h

 

Dr. Andrews to perform eyelid replacement surgery RT @1500ESPN_Reusse: Danny Santana headed for 60-day w/ eyelid cut? @LaVelleNeal

 

 

On the other hand, we have Berardino:

 

Mike Berardino @MikeBerardino · 22h

 

Twinsights: Late-arriving Josmil Pinto gets "the treatment" from #mntwins teammates ...

 

Mike Berardino‏@MikeBerardino 17h

 

Talked to Josmil Pinto about previous note. Only reason he was late: Cab driver took him to Citi Field instead of Yankee Stadium. It happens

 

 

Mike Berardino @MikeBerardino · 17h

 

My apologies to Josmil Pinto, his fans and his family for any confusion I may have caused. Being late wasn't the point. Light humor was.

 

Mike Berardino @MikeBerardino · 16h

 

Updated Twinsights: Wayward taxi driver takes Josmil Pinto to a stadium in the wrong borough. #MNTwinshttp://blogs.twincities.com/twins/2014/06/

 

 

Will we see an apology or explanation today from Reusse to Santana or to people who may have misinterpreted his tweet?

 

I doubt it. "Journalists" and bloggers need to understand that there should be a distinction between what they tweet on something that reflects their profession (in this case, the tweet came from @1500ESPN_Reusse) than from something they might tweet on a personal account. Higher standards should apply on the professional account.

 

Reusse should issue an apology/explanation.

 

I like your compare and contrast. And, for the record, I didn't like the 'joke' tweets at all, either. But as Chief so eloquently put it ... "Well, to each his own ..." (And yes, he should have said 'his/her' own). And, further on the record, I am not a Reusse fan at all, either. And while it's everyone's right to question journalistic integrity, I don't think doing it over a 'joke' gone awry for some is the place for it. It was a joke. Whether we thought it good or bad, right or wrong, I think we're getting off track a bit and should have this 'journalistic integrity' discussion elsewhere.

[jokin]

I like your compare and contrast. And, for the record, I didn't like the 'joke' tweets at all, either. But as Chief so eloquently put it ... "Well, to each his own ..." (And yes, he should have said 'his/her' own). And, further on the record, I am not a Reusse fan at all, either. And while it's everyone's right to question journalistic integrity, I don't think doing it over a 'joke' gone awry for some is the place for it. It was a joke. Whether we thought it good or bad, right or wrong, I think we're getting off track a bit and should have this 'journalistic integrity' discussion elsewhere.

 

I'd be interested in hearing what you think is "on track." What JB_Iowa has posted got right to the heart of the matter to the entire thread- as "on track" as one could possibly be. The phrase- "To each his own" applies in the sense of "good joke/bad joke" and one's sense of humor in that regard. But in this case with respect to the original intent of the thread, "To each his own" doesn't apply, the point of the thread was in witnessing a journalist letting his zealous righteousness of what he feels is going wrong with the Twins, to convey "information" under the company banner impulsively and recklessly, thereby interfering with his journalistic obligations to convey the facts and/or editorialize with the proper context.

 

Berardino got it right for when a journalist makes a mistake, LEN and Patrick, not so much.

[Squirrel]

On track ... meaning ... baseball discussion in a baseball forum. If you want to try and tie it to this being Reusse's way of calling out the Twins, or a discussion in Twins reporting, then go there with it, and back it up with more than this one instance. But to get into a discussion on journalistic integrity, we can move it to a different forum, and go from there. I'm not saying it's an uninteresting topic, but it's getting a bit away from Twins discussion. So that's what I meant by 'on track.' And your question and my explanation doesn't help matters. And there is a little 'mountain out of a mole hill' going on here, too. And that from me, who didn't like the little 'joke' any more than you.

[tobi0040]

Guys... it's Reusse being sarcastic about Twins injuries... there's absolutely nothing to it.

 

I am guessing LEN didn't feel the need to come out and say it was a joke, given Dr. Andrews performed eyelid replacement surgery. I find this very funny

[TheLeviathan]

I think the summary of this post is that no one should write words. From now on when you write, don't use words.

 

Henceforth, in an effort to make sure no one is offended ever about anything, we must all communicate like Ned Flanders. All jokes, satire, sarcasm, wit, euphemisms, and otherwise entertaining chatter is hereby banned under pain of death.

 

Additionally, this will ensure journalistic integrity. (As long as you overlook "doodly" as improper use of the English language)

[jokin]

Danny Santana is back in the lineup tonight, playing CF, and batting 8th in the order.

[jokin]

I am guessing LEN didn't feel the need to come out and say it was a joke, given Dr. Andrews performed eyelid replacement surgery. I find this very funny

 

Except that joking about an injury that threatens a hitters' potential livelihood being ended is rarely funny.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Danny Santana is back in the lineup tonight, playing CF, and batting 8th in the order.

 

…which is a funnier joke than the original "60-day eyelid" joke...

[kblack1011]

Why so serious? Just because you have a headache doesn't make it a tumor.

[jokin]

Henceforth, in an effort to make sure no one is offended ever about anything, we must all communicate like Ned Flanders. All jokes, satire, sarcasm, wit, euphemisms, and otherwise entertaining chatter is hereby banned under pain of death.

 

Additionally, this will ensure journalistic integrity. (As long as you overlook "doodly" as improper use of the English language)

 

Or instead of a "burn the witch!" approach to ensuring journalistic integrity (which I don't think anyone has advocated in this thread- thus another strawman hereby debunked), how about holding accountable, those who write for a living to basic standards of journalism? Done simply by those of us in the public, in noting when they make a mistake. Or some like the Pioneer Press scribe with an identical job, who seems perfectly capable of holding himself accountable (or perhaps he has an editor who gave him a gentle nudge). And then they can use jokes, satire, et al, to their heart's content and everyone will be better off for reading their otherwise entertaining chatter.

[Squirrel]

Or instead of a "burn the witch!" approach to ensuring journalistic integrity (which I don't think anyone has advocated in this thread- thus another strawman hereby debunked), how about holding accountable, those who write for a living to basic standards of journalism? Done simply by those of us in the public, in noting when they make a mistake. Or some like the Pioneer Press scribe with an identical job, who seems perfectly capable of holding himself accountable (or perhaps he has an editor who gave him a gentle nudge). And then they can use jokes, satire, et al, to their heart's content and everyone will be better off for reading their otherwise entertaining chatter.

 

And this has nothing to do with journalistic integrity? And it's a pertinent baseball discussion? If you want to wander down this path, this thread will be moved ... over that molehill mountain I mentioned earlier.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Reusse explained himself pretty well on the Sports show tonight.

 

Thanks for the link WH to the Sports Show. Yeah Reusse is pretty teed at the Twins situation like a lot of other people.

 

Also in the Sports Show, we learn from Sid that:

 

- Love will be re-signing with the Timberwolves;

- the NFL will be moving to London, Paris, and "other towns" in Europe;

- the Vikings coaching staff will be rolling with Ponder as starting QB next season;

- Mauer is not swinging well right now.

 

Sid batting 1-4 last night

[jokin]

Thanks for the link WH to the Sports Show. Yeah Reusse is pretty teed at the Twins situation like a lot of other people.

 

Also in the Sports Show, we learn from Sid that:

 

- Love will be re-signing with the Timberwolves;

- the NFL will be moving to London, Paris, and "other towns" in Europe;

- the Vikings coaching staff will be rolling with Ponder as starting QB next season;

- Mauer is not swinging well right now.

 

Sid batting 1-4 last night

 

But then, batting .250 is not a bad average for someone at age 94.

[jokin]

And this has nothing to do with journalistic integrity? And it's a pertinent baseball discussion? If you want to wander down this path, this thread will be moved ... over that molehill mountain I mentioned earlier.

 

I honestly have no idea what you're saying here. Those that cover Twins baseball, and how they cover it, is not pertinent baseball discussion....on an alternate Twins news and discussion site?

[TheLeviathan]

how about holding accountable, those who write for a living to basic standards of journalism?

 

Using satire isn't against the code of journalism. You're not obligated to like it, but he's not expected to avoid it. You are on a crusade to be offended by a joke whereas he has no obligation not to offend your sensibilities while joking.

 

There is no mistake here, just a joke. One you have sought to turn into a mountain of integrity problems from the outset.

[Marta Shearing]

Thanks for the link WH to the Sports Show. Yeah Reusse is pretty teed at the Twins situation like a lot of other people.

 

Also in the Sports Show, we learn from Sid that:

 

- Love will be re-signing with the Timberwolves;

- the NFL will be moving to London, Paris, and "other towns" in Europe;

- the Vikings coaching staff will be rolling with Ponder as starting QB next season;

- Mauer is not swinging well right now.

 

Sid batting 1-4 last night

Sid had a rough show last night. For the most part, Max handles him pretty well. I'm fine with Sid doing this for as long as he wants. He just needs a little help at this point.

 

I'll miss him when he's gone. Its going to be quite the event when he passes away. I imagine it will be the top story for days, with 100's of his CPF's flying in. I hope Sid gets to see the new Vikings stadium before he's gone.

[Marta Shearing]

Usingsatire isn't against the code of journalism. You're not obligated to like it, but he's not expected to avoid it. You are on a crusade to be offended by a joke whereas he has no obligation not to offend your sensibilities while joking.

 

There is no mistake here, just a joke. One you have sought to turn into a mountain of integrity problems from the outset.

Stated to perfection.

[Thrylos]

by the way, I remember hearing Brad Steil say in a radio interview that Buxton was hurt (the re-aggravation) sliding feet first (somehow) into home.

 

There were eyewitnesses of that slide who said it was head first. Totally surprised to hear that from Steil (who I suspect was not there) after the fact

[glunn]

When I first read Reusse's tweet, it conjured a very unhappy feeling. I care about Santana and it made me very concerned that his career might be interrupted. Reusse is a reporter and I assumed that he was being factual.

 

My response to this is that Reusse should have been more sensitive to the possibility that people might take the tweet seriously. As some have observed, some context would have been better.

 

My personal response is to just ignore Reusse for life. He can write what he wants, but I won't read it. If he apologizes, then I will reconsider.

 

That said, I am concerned about the tone of some of the posts in this thread. Obviously, there is a range of opinions here, but we all need to be respectful of those with whom we completely disagree. I think that Reusse exercised poor judgment, but respect those who feel that his tweet constituted legitimate sarcasm. Let's lighten up here, or this thread will be closed.

[Seth Stohs]

When I first read Reusse's tweet, it conjured a very unhappy feeling. I care about Santana and it made me very concerned that his career might be interrupted. Reusse is a reporter and I assumed that he was being factual.

 

My response to this is that Reusse should have been more sensitive to the possibility that people might take the tweet seriously. As some have observed, some context would have been better.

 

My personal response is to just ignore Reusse for life. He can write what he wants, but I won't read it. If he apologizes, then I will reconsider.

 

That said, I am concerned about the tone of some of the posts in this thread. Obviously, there is a range of opinions here, but we all need to be respectful of those with whom we completely disagree. I think that Reusse exercised poor judgment, but respect those who feel that his tweet constituted legitimate sarcasm. Let's lighten up here, or this thread will be closed.

 

I think the context was some of Reusse's tweets previous to that one where he was talking about the Twins basically being soft and everything gets extra days off.

 

Twitter is 140 characters. I'm a huge Reusse fan. I enjoy him telling it like it is sometimes, even when I don't agree, and often I do agree.

 

But I do agree that this thread has been strange, a huge overreaction to about 120 characters on Twitter.

[TheLeviathan]

When I first read Reusse's tweet, it conjured a very unhappy feeling. I care about Santana and it made me very concerned that his career might be interrupted. Reusse is a reporter and I assumed that he was being factual.

 

My response to this is that Reusse should have been more sensitive to the possibility that people might take the tweet seriously. As some have observed, some context would have been better.

 

It is not up to him to provide that context. It was a tweet, so doing so is impossible to begin with. Expecting someone whose entire career has been one of biting commentary to advertise "THIS IS BITING COMMENTARY!" before every joking tweet is really unfair in addition to being really unrealistic.

 

The real context was his surrounding tweets and decades of his approach to sports commentary. It's up to you the reader to inform yourself of context, not him. If your sensibilities are offended, that isn't his responsibility to avoid. But you are more than welcome to avoid him if you don't like his schtick.

 

Calling out his integrity? That's completely uncalled for and indefensible.

[glunn]

It is not up to him to provide that context. It was a tweet, so doing so is impossible to begin with. Expecting someone whose entire career has been one of biting commentary to advertise "THIS IS BITING COMMENTARY!" before every joking tweet is really unfair in addition to being really unrealistic.

 

The real context was his surrounding tweets and decades of his approach to sports commentary. It's up to you the reader to inform yourself of context, not him. If your sensibilities are offended, that isn't his responsibility to avoid. But you are more than welcome to avoid him if you don't like his schtick.

 

Calling out his integrity? That's completely uncalled for and indefensible.

 

Levi, I understand your argument. It makes sense. However, I am not questioning his integrity. I am just saying that when I first read the tweet I felt really bad for Santana, because I was not aware that this was satire, and now I have zero desire to read anything more from Reusse.

 

Maybe he could have provided context by adding a smiley face at the end? Is that possible with Twitter? Anyway, jokes suggesting a career threatening injury have no appeal to me, but if others find this humorous, then I have no problem with that.