Tigers 3, Twins 2: Bloop-Filled 2nd Inning and Rookie Hurler Top Twins

Crap s—t win for Detroit-had no business winning tonight. No matter-twins blowout Detroit tomorrow/win series.

Yet again…  unable to keep a winning streak going… against a rookie pitcher, pitching for a really bad team. They may win the division, but only because they are in the AL central. These are games quality teams win… we are not that.

8 minutes ago, hitterscount said:

Yet again…  unable to keep a winning streak going… against a rookie pitcher, pitching for a really bad team. They may win the division, but only because they are in the AL central. These are games quality teams win… we are not that.

Twins have best team in division!!! Detroit got lucky tonight/won’t win tomorrow!!! Cleveland/white sox blow ass. Can’t see twins losing division-no way!!! 

Starting to look like Buxton should learn to bunt.  Assuming he hurt whatever he hurt yesterday on the swing.  Didn’t seem like he should have over exerted while trotting to first. 
 

Ongoing Back injuries can be career ending for gymnasts. Doctors will encourage retirement if they don’t want to have pain for the rest of their lives. 

Julien looks completely lost at second base and Correa looks frustrated trying to teach the rookie what to do in real time. He's giving back on defense everything he provides on offense. I agree, play Farmer at 2B. When they send Julien back to the minors give him a first baseman's glove. It's going to take years of additional reps at second base to make him playable and even then he won't be good.

Lots of times last night when the Twins picked the wrong pitch to swing at - letting hittable pitches go in favor of swinging at unhittable pitches. I think their game plan at the plate was not prepared for how the Tigers were pitching. Tigers management has stolen several games against the Twins this year and they have their team playing well above expectations.

Another tough loss. Really terrible to see De Leon get injured. Just when he was having a little success in MLB. We've seen guys come off the mound and head for the dugout that way before and its usually pretty bad news. 

CLEVELAND knocking on the door  sitting 1 game out as twins are currently leading the division,,,

This twins team  won't separate itself from the rest of the division unless it has some winning streaks and by Allstar game could be looking up to a new divisional leader ...

Getting a spark going with 3 wins and then snuffed out by a team we should be beating ...

1. We have a hitting coach, an assistant hitting coach, and hardly anyone hitting. Anyone else dissatisfied with that?

2. How many games will Byron be held out before they put him on the IL? Three or more, where’s the betting on that?

This team is a drunk guy shuffling down the street, sometimes looking like he’s got it together enough to get home and other times making me sure he’s going to fall into a trench and drown. It’s too hard to watch, and he is ignoring my offers to help so I’m just gonna dial 911 and go home. 

The Twins need to score runs to win. The pitching and defense may let the team dow from time to time but expecting to hold teams scoreless or close is a plan that won't work. I see the defensive blunders, the fails by the pitchers, and mistakes. The Twins will not rise above a .500 record if they just continue to leave runners on base, score few runs in so many games, and strike out at a record pace. So yes, the bullpen has blown a few games, Julien and others are less than stellar in the field, and Pablo Lopez is not throwing shutouts. However, offense is the main culprit. It was the problem last night and has been all season to date.

Yes this team has been playing boring undisciplined baseball for two and a half seasons.  The veteran hitters for the most part have been bad.  Oh sure Buxton hits two long Homer's against Boston and people say he's back.  Of course he goes on another hitless streak with several more strikeouts.  And obviously the manager blames it on his I Jared back he's had trouble with for most of the season.  How convenient isn't.  Then fir whatever reason they refuse to put him on IL.  I suppose he may get traumatized.  They many times rest him fir several days without an IL designation.  This just limits Roccos Ben h even more.  If he's to hurt to even be the DH the. IL him.  He is hurting, not helping the team.   Very strange team indeed.

Twins one true outcome:

quality start + double digit k’s = loss

offense (lack thereof) is the culprit once again

2 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Julien looks completely lost at second base and Correa looks frustrated trying to teach the rookie what to do in real time. He's giving back on defense everything he provides on offense. I agree, play Farmer at 2B. When they send Julien back to the minors give him a first baseman's glove. It's going to take years of additional reps at second base to make him playable and even then he won't be good.

If only there was a platinum glove CF that could be moved off DH so that Julian could play his natural position of DH.... I know.... pure fantasy 

Just now, D.C Twins said:

If only there was a platinum glove CF that could be moved off DH so that Julian could play his natural position of DH.... I know.... pure fantasy 

Do you think the Twins medical staff incorrect in assessing that Buxton should not be playing in the field?

3 minutes ago, jorgenswest said:

Do you think the Twins medical staff incorrect in assessing that Buxton should not be playing in the field?

I doubt the medical staff has said that he absolutely cannot play in the field... the team just thinks that he will theoretically get hurt less not playing in the field. 

If the medical staff thought that he was not physically able to play in the field, I doubt that they would clear him to be running full speed around the bases and sliding etc. 

If he truly is medically unfit to play in the field, I would prefer that he gets whatever rest, rehabilitation, surgery etc that is needed to do so.

If we honestly signed him to a loooooong term contract knowing that he would likely not be able to play in the field again, it was a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge mistake (especially given our predilection for drafting many defensively limited hitters)

Unbelievable he can’t even stay healthy being a full time DH. Rest him for 3 weeks, drop Gallo, call up walner and Williams.

It was a close game that the Twins could have won when they had bases loaded or not give Tigers the walk in the bad inning. The Twins have lost too many games by walking batters and most of the walks were to batters with low batting averages.  The Twins batters were swinging at too many first pitches so rookie Tigers pitcher had to throw very few pitches. I think it was 8 pitches in one inning and 10 in another inning..  Will take a win today since it looks like a .500 record will win division and maybe good pitching will win in playoffs. Put Buxton on IR and call up Wallner as DH.

5 hours ago, William K Johnson said:

Put Farmer at second until Polanco gets back.   This fascination with prospects who are not ready for the big show (see Jose Miranda) has got to stop.

Can we blame Toby yet?

1 hour ago, stringer bell said:

 

If Rocco is telling the truth, Buxton cannot play in the field. He avoided the question for 40% of the schedule. We haven’t been told the medical details, but his ability to swing a bat and run the bases indicate that he has only a small distance that he can run before being impaired (my analysis). 

Rocco running interference. Nothing more.

Honestly, getting to be more of a side-show than he’s worth. IL him or play him in the field. At this point, I’d welcome the IL stint.

2024 needs to be the season to turn things over to the next wave for leadership. Correa will remain valuable. Kepler will be gone and Buxton/Polanco should be considered nothing more than potential depth (or traded).

2 hours ago, D.C Twins said:

If only there was a platinum glove CF that could be moved off DH so that Julian could play his natural position of DH.... I know.... pure fantasy 

Are you talking about the same guy who couldn't run to first base without injuring himself last evening?

I find the endless debate about Buxton the same as the endless debate about Mauer. Tiresome and unending.

In both cases I trust that the Twins management is going by the advice and recommendations of their medical professionals. I am OK with not knowing the details and appreciate any privacy about health issues they protect. In both cases aI also trusted that the entire staff would prefer Buxton to be in CF and Mauer at catcher. I also don’t believe these decisions were the responsibility of the on field staff.

I likely am in the minority but in order to avoid this (to me) tiresome and endless debate I will need to do the same as I did in Mauer’s time and put those who can’t let this go on the ignore list. I would suggest they do the same for me.