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    Did We Crown the Twins' Pitching Pipeline Too Soon?

    After years of hype and hopeful signs, the Twins' once-promising crop of young arms is facing injuries, setbacks, and regression, and it's fair to ask if the pipeline was ever flowing as well as it seemed to be.

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    For more than two decades, the Minnesota Twins failed to develop starting pitching with any consistency. When Derek Falvey was hired in 2016, one of the primary hopes was that he could change that. He had helped build Cleveland's well-regarded pitching development system, and fans in Minnesota envisioned something similar taking root here.

    It didn’t happen overnight, but over the past couple of years, there were real signs of progress. Joe Ryan and Bailey Ober emerged as very productive starters at the major league level. Simeon Woods Richardson broke through in 2024. David Festa and Zebby Matthews climbed the ladder. Marco Raya, Andrew Morris, Charlee Soto, and Connor Prielipp represended depth, pedigree, and momentum. The idea that Minnesota had finally built a sustainable pitching pipeline started to take hold.

    But now, in 2025, that belief is being tested. Nearly every name in that group has encountered struggles, setbacks, or injury concerns. It’s not time to declare the system broken, but it’s fair to revisit the optimism and ask whether we may have gotten ahead of ourselves.

    Ryan remains a clear success story. Acquired in the Nelson Cruz trade, he has developed into a reliable top-of-the-rotation starter and a key piece of the team’s future. He’s one of the few players in this conversation whose stock has held steady, or even improved.

    Ober is another developmental win. A 12th-round pick who turned into a big-league starter is a major credit to the front office. But this season has brought concerns. His fastball velocity has dipped into the upper 80s and low 90s, his ERA has crept over 4.50 again, and his mechanics are completely out of whack. For now, he looks more like a back-end starter than the mid-rotation mainstay he resembled in the past. There’s still plenty of value there, but his trajectory has shifted.

    Meanwhile, Woods Richardson was a key contributor in 2024, helping stabilize the rotation early in the year. In 2025, he’s struggled to miss bats, been optioned to Triple-A, and returned more out of necessity than performance. His ERA sits over 5.00, and his strikeout rate is a career low. There’s still promise in his arm, but he hasn’t looked like someone the Twins can count on every fifth day.

    Festa looked like he might be ready to make the leap. He finished last season strong, and expectations were high entering this year. But in 2025, he’s battled shoulder fatigue and inconsistency, posting a 6.39 ERA and struggling to pitch deep into games. His strikeouts are down, his walks are up, and he has only reached five innings once all year. Festa still has youth and tools, but this season has been a step backward.

    Matthews showed up to spring training with major buzz. He pitched well in Triple-A and earned a promotion. His four starts with the Twins were a mixed bag, and he’s since landed on the injured list with a shoulder strain. It’s far too soon to make any declarations, but shoulder issues are always worrisome for young starters, especially those who rely on high-end velocity.

    Behind them, depth is looking thinner than expected. Andrew Morris is on the IL with a forearm strain after an uneven run in Triple-A. Marco Raya has a 7.59 ERA in 13 starts and has taken a significant step back. Even his long-term role as a starter now feels uncertain. Connor Prielipp, who was once one of the most intriguing arms in the system, has pitched this year but is now trending more toward a relief profile than a rotation piece.

    Soto, CJ Culpepper, and others bring upside, but they are still a ways off and have yet to face advanced competition. Counting on them for meaningful big-league innings anytime soon would be premature.

    To be fair, none of this is unique to the Twins. Pitching development is incredibly difficult, and arm injuries are more common than ever in today's game. But it also raises the question, is this just normal turbulence in the development process, or is there something about the system itself that still hasn’t quite clicked?

    This front office deserves credit for finding Ryan, developing Ober, and building some bullpen depth. But if pitching was supposed to be the calling card, and if the position-player development hasn’t been a major strength, the bar has to be higher.

    We’re not here to declare the pipeline a failure. There is still potential in Festa. Zebby could bounce back. Raya, Morris, Prielipp, they’re not done yet. But the shine has worn off a bit, and almost every name that carried hope into the year now comes with questions.

    It’s fair to wonder if we crowned the Twins’ pitching pipeline too soon.

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    Great article, thank you.  Hope I'm wrong but I've never understood the Raya steam.  CP's durability is a big red flag and Soto's injury is really concerning.  and those are our 3 'high end' prospects.

    The should absolutely be sellers and hope to hit on some top talent to replenish.  Duran would bring a very strong return to help jumpstart it.

    In a word: "yes". The only sustainable part of our "pipeline" was turning "elite" minor league arms into serviceable middle relievers. For Pablo we snaked from the Marlins, for Ryan we somehow robbed the Rays, other than that we've had nothing to hang our hat on. 

    It's disheartening seeing the Brew Crew have a guy like Misiorowski come up through their ranks, when we have this vaunted pitching pipeline that's been sold to us for years. And any commenters stating the obvious that it's not impressive are quickly thumbs'ed down.

    This isn't going to be popular, but just how many teams have even three good starters? What are we expecting from rookies these days? Trading for six years of control is 100, percent building the pipeline. Anyone giving up on Festa or Matthews probably needs more patience. I'm unsure on SWR. The terms have clearly been above average here compared to other teams. 

    Is it possible to crown something that never existed in the first place? Lopez hasn't even missed a month yet and things look bleak. One SP from your opening day rotation missing a few starts has the fan base crossing their fingers Chris Paddack doesn't turn back into Chris Paddack and Festa + SWR somehow find a way to consistently make it through 4 innings. Hell, even last year this team was trying to hand real innings to Anthony DeSclafani and they acted like a mid August injury to a single SP (their first in 2 years) was insurmountable. 

    Ober is a success. Ryan threw a whopping 9 AAA innings for the Twins; great trade, but he's not a "pipeline," product. Kudos on Duran and Jax. Who knows what happens with Varland or Sands. That's pretty much it in nearly a decade at the helm for this FO. 

    Zebby and Festa haven't looked all that impressive albeit in very limited innings. Raya is basically a long relief arm, Idk how anybody expects him to hold up as a SP given the way he's been handled. Prielipp is now tracking as a RP on top of his health concerns? Morris? If guys in A ball are being counted as part of the "pipeline," then we're back to square one. 

    They deserve some credit for acquiring Gray and Lopez. Those swaps worked out and you need to make those types of moves to supplement what you should be developing on your own. 

    "But if pitching was supposed to be the calling card, and if the position-player development hasn’t been a major strength, the bar has to be higher."

    This pretty much sums it all up. The "pipeline," has become a meme. It's been the same argument for years now, and the only thing that has changed are the names. 

    19 minutes ago, KirbyDome89 said:

    Is it possible to crown something that never existed in the first place? Lopez hasn't even missed a month yet and things look bleak. One SP from your opening day rotation missing a few starts has the fan base crossing their fingers Chris Paddack doesn't turn back into Chris Paddack and Festa + SWR somehow find a way to consistently make it through 4 innings. Hell, even last year this team was trying to hand real innings to Anthony DeSclafani and they acted like a mid August injury to a single SP (their first in 2 years) was insurmountable. 

    Ober is a success. Ryan threw a whopping 9 AAA innings for the Twins; great trade, but he's not a "pipeline," product. Kudos on Duran and Jax. Who knows what happens with Varland or Sands. That's pretty much it in nearly a decade at the helm for this FO. 

    Zebby and Festa haven't looked all that impressive albeit in very limited innings. Raya is basically a long relief arm, Idk how anybody expects him to hold up as a SP given the way he's been handled. Prielipp is now tracking as a RP on top of his health concerns? Morris? If guys in A ball are being counted as part of the "pipeline," then we're back to square one. 

    They deserve some credit for acquiring Gray and Lopez. Those swaps worked out and you need to make those types of moves to supplement what you should be developing on your own. 

    "But if pitching was supposed to be the calling card, and if the position-player development hasn’t been a major strength, the bar has to be higher."

    This pretty much sums it all up. The "pipeline," has become a meme. It's been the same argument for years now, and the only thing that has changed are the names. 

    How is trading for 6.5 years of a guy not part of building the pipeline? 

    21 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

    How is trading for 6.5 years of a guy not part of building the pipeline? 

    IMO, building a pipeline is two fold developing talent and supplementing talent with trades/signing  of both "proven" players and prospects. The have been pretty good at one part, bringing in Odo, Maeda, Gray Lopez and Ryan have been great, SWR decent, others have they have tried didn't work out (everybody know those names) The other side is developing young/unproven talent (trades or drafting) is still a question mark besides Ober (Even if his career ended today, I think that has to be considered a a pretty big success) Festa, Matthews and others could still turn out and the pipeline looks good again, but that hasn't yet happened. (In case anybody brings up Jax, Duran or Sands that doesn't impress me teams all over the league turn failed starter prospects into good or better relief pitchers)

    With all that said I think the Twins having a pipeline is still very much in question. (they could be in a worse spot though)

    43 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

    This isn't going to be popular, but just how many teams have even three good starters? What are we expecting from rookies these days? Trading for six years of control is 100, percent building the pipeline. Anyone giving up on Festa or Matthews probably needs more patience. I'm unsure on SWR. The terms have clearly been above average here compared to other teams. 

     Credit where it's due for acquiring 2 of those 3 good starters, but the Ryan swap was a unicorn. Good luck sending out a declining DH only player for 6 years of a mid rotation arm again. We might as well bank on finding another Santana in the Rule V. The Lopez trade has worked out. You're sending out real talent to acquire somebody like Pablo, and that's fine, but he should be a supplement to an already solid foundation, not the glue holding things together, i.e. if you have a "pipeline," one SP going down shouldn't be disastrous. 

    Sure, don't give up on Festa or Matthews, Idk who is advocating for doing so, but don't count your eggs before they hatch either. Have even a small amount of sustained success in the Majors first. 

    A single mid rotation SP and 2 (maybe 3? Idk) RPs over nearly a decade is above average development? I'm not going to look back over the last 10 years for 29 other clubs but I'd be really surprised if the Twins were near the upper echelon of pitching production. 

    8 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

    How is trading for 6.5 years of a guy not part of building the pipeline? 

    The same way trading for Sonny Gray and Pablo Lopez wasn't building the pipeline?

    It isn't just the pitching pipeline...

    This team has had Jonah Bride, Kody Clemens, and DaShawn Kiersey on the big league roster for much of the season. Julien and Miranda may not make it back to the majors. Wallner looks like he's headed down the same path as those two guys.

    Overall, this has been a systemic failure in terms of drafting, player development, roster building, etc.. 

    In some respects, Falvey's done a better job with the pitching than he has the position players and that is absolutely terrifying.

     

    Plenty of successful pitchers have had rocky early years before figuring it out.
     

    • Blake Snell

    • Lucas Giolito

    • Carlos Rodón

    • Tyler Glasnow

    • Kevin Gausman


     The key is whether the system fosters adjustments and resilience. So far, that’s still a question.

    The bigger concern? Outside of Ryan and Duran, the Twins don’t seem to be producing many impact arms. There’s depth, but not dominance. And if pitching was Falvey’s supposed strength, we should be seeing more top-tier results by now.

    2 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

    This isn't going to be popular, but just how many teams have even three good starters? What are we expecting from rookies these days? Trading for six years of control is 100, percent building the pipeline. Anyone giving up on Festa or Matthews probably needs more patience. I'm unsure on SWR. The terms have clearly been above average here compared to other teams. 

    It could be considered building a pipeline…but it sure isn’t development. And the narrative has centered on development.

    Festa, Matthews, etc, absolutely could come to fruition…but they’re 25 and still haven’t arrived.  The development narrative was build on things like spin rates and/or velo of mid-round prospects in AA…everything except actual major league results…or even major league arrivals.

    I’ll give them credit for the Ryan and Lopez trades. Can you imagine the situation without them, or without Gray as well.

    12 minutes ago, BillyBallLives said:

    Plenty of successful pitchers have had rocky early years before figuring it out.
     

    • Blake Snell

    • Lucas Giolito

    • Carlos Rodón

    • Tyler Glasnow

    • Kevin Gausman


     The key is whether the system fosters adjustments and resilience. So far, that’s still a question.

    The bigger concern? Outside of Ryan and Duran, the Twins don’t seem to be producing many impact arms. There’s depth, but not dominance. And if pitching was Falvey’s supposed strength, we should be seeing more top-tier results by now.

    I have said this before the only Twins pitching prospect that resembles these guys is SWR. Struggling in your early 20's is different than struggling in your mid 20's. Doesn't mean Festa, Matthews and some others can't figure it out and I have some faith that they can. All the guys you mentioned were pretty high pick obviously with real good stuff and moved pretty quickly though the minors at young ages. The Twins pitchers are fairly old college pitchers drafted much later, moved fairly quickly though the minors but are getting to the majors at a time most successful are hitting their stride over moving to the pen, not just starting out. Pablo struggled early in his career (ages 22 and 23) but figured it and was pretty darn good moving forward. 

    The are tons of examples of guys struggling in their early 20's and figuring out for a decent/good/great career, there are way less that start their struggles at age 24/25 and end up with a decent/good/great or even long career. 

    19 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

    "The Pitching Pipeline" is one of the all time great TD creations. 

    Repeated so many times, by so many, it became a punchline.

    Followed closely behind with “best bullpen in baseball” the last 2 years. The next article critiquing Falvey will be the first on TD. We can find plenty of articles gushing about how amazing of a job he’s doing. 

    Cody Christie’s article a few weeks ago about the minor league pitching program will make the pitching pipeline ™️ a distant memory. We won’t develop a single starter in the first 3 years of their MLB career because they were capped at low innings pitched each outing. They’ll spend time ramping up to 5 innings with a quick hook, or saddled with openers. 

    Yes, the pipeline is still a work in progress. Not enough developed arms have landed at Target field to crown it a a verifiable pipeline. I think SWR, Festa, and Matthews will stick at the major league level, but can’t be counted as success stories just yet. 
    They need time to learn and become finished products, so until that happens (probably next year), not a pipeline.
    There are definitely more high end pitching prospects in the system though, so I think that points to more big league arms arriving in the near future. 
    Pitching pipeline grade so far: C-

    4 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

    This isn't going to be popular, but just how many teams have even three good starters? What are we expecting from rookies these days? Trading for six years of control is 100, percent building the pipeline. Anyone giving up on Festa or Matthews probably needs more patience. I'm unsure on SWR. The terms have clearly been above average here compared to other teams. 

    I am in complete agreement.  The answer is VERY few teams and a few don't really have any.  If what someone was/is looking for is a bulletproof bunch of five starters, all dependable to start a playoff game, well good luck.  Maybe being a Dodger fan is in your future, and even they are having a few issues.   However, the Twins have had MUCH more success building a pitching staff in the past five years than they had in most of the previous 30 years.  I call that a win.  Whether it fits the contrived notion of "pitching pipeline" is irrelevant. Unfortunately, someone (perhaps on TD?) coined that term and it has become the meme by which everything is measured and critiqued.  Retire the term and just enjoy some decent pitching while we have it.  

    Well if your crowned anything it was a huge mistake.  

    Joe Ryan wasn't DEVELOPED in the Twins system.  He pitched a grand total of 2 games as a 25 year old in the Twins minor league system.  He was "developed" in the Ray's system.

     

    Even with Ober's struggles this season, and he seems like a guy who is going to go on the 60 day disabled list, he is the one starting pitcher the Twins have developed on their rosterBut he is the only pitcher drafted in the Falvey era that has panned out.  

    Historically, developing starting pitchers has been thin gruel for the Twins.  Jose Berrios, drafted in 2012 is the next most recent starting pitcher drfted by the Twins that was successful as a starter and he was traded 4 years ago. 

    Others are Kyle Gibson, drafted in 2009.  Scott Baker drafted in 2003.  Nick Blackburn drafted in 2001. Maybe Kevin Slowery, drafted in 2005.

    A wild card is Fransisco Liriano who was acquired in a trade but played A+ - AAA minors in Twins system.  He was drafted in 2001 and came ot the Twins in 2004.  And Matt Garza who was traded away.

    Think about this though.  IN the 24 years since the Twins drafted Nick Blackburn, all of the starting pitchers they drafted,  all of the signing bonus the paid, all of the first round draft picks in this century that were starters:  Steven Waldrop, Matthew Fox, Jay Rainville, Matt Garza, Shooter Hunt, Kyle Gibson, Matthew Bashore, Alex WImmers, Hudson Boyd, Berrios, Kohl Steward, Tyler Jay, 

    The Twins have been somewhat successful in turning starters into relievers like Glen Perkins and Taylor Rodgers, even Griffin Jax for that matter.  

    But they have historically been very poor in developing starting pitchers from their own system.

     

     

     

     

    15 hours ago, BillyBallLives said:

    Outside of Ryan and Duran, the Twins don’t seem to be producing many impact arms. There’s depth, but not dominance

    Well said. Plenty of good arms, but need to find more that can truly make an impact. I still have high hopes for Prielipp, and maybe Soto, but those guys are still a year or two or three down the road, and they both have injury concerns already. Sigh. It's hard work being a Twins fan!

    A team can build a pitching staff by the draft and through trades or the waiver wire (which rarely works). It doesn't matter how you do it as long as it gets done. I am more concerned about the number of arm injuries and fatigue that our pitchers have had. That can cause your staff to go into the toilet. I also agree that, for some reason, we don't have pitchers who could dominate a game. The Skeins, Mosokowskis (though he's only had 2 starts) and Skubals are rarities but many teams have at least 2 starters who can consistently give you solid outings. I won't give up on our youngsters yet but so far they have not been consistent. Our best pitcher right now is Ryan but his history is not good in the second halves of seasons so we'll see. We should be sellers since we aren't going anywhere right now but don't sell the entire furniture. Hopefully we can get some good deals done...but not for Duran or Wallner.

    Why would anyone ever get the impression our pitching pipeline is even good, let alone “crown” it?

    The FO has been here for like 8 good years.  1 decent starter has come out of the development system (Ober, who isn’t looking good for a while this year).

    I’ll even grant Ryan, who was arguably developed much more by TB, for 2.  Guys like Gibson and Berrios were the previous regime but may have overlapped with Falvy. Otherwise it’s been a lot of Odorizzi, Santana, Maeda, Pineda, Archer, Paddack, Hill, Bundy, etc. from the clearance bin.

    Sounds like this “elite pipeline” dream has always been based on a hope and Falvey’s Cleveland connections.  There is absolutely nothing that sets this FO apart as a high end developer of starting pitching.

    All that said, I don’t feel confident enough to write it off completely.  Maybe there’s bad luck involved.  It’s very difficult to develop a high end starter, let alone string a number of them together like a Cleveland, TB, or the As over the last 10-20 years.

    I would say I feel very good about their ability to go find guys with good underlying stats and tweak things to get a little extra out of them.  Which, given the volatility and unpredictability of young pitching prospects, I think is a more valuable skill.

    I don’t consider that “the pipeline.”  To me, a “pipeline” would be the development system from the low minors and up.  Whether they’re drafted or acquired as a prospect in the low minors (rookie to A ball).  Pipeline implies a steady/continuous flow.  I’m not sure we’re even getting spurts.  Maybe a drip every few years.

     

    1 hour ago, LambchoP said:

    If we had any semblance of a legit pitching pipeline, we wouldn't have signed 3 waiver wire pitchers within the last two weeks lol 

    How many legit MLB starters do you think teams have between MLB and AAA? I mean, many don't have three.....

    I feel like the chatter about the pipeline started too soon. Fans got excited when these college pitchers started having success at AA and AAA.  However the biggest jump is to the show so we really don’t know yet about guys like Festa, Mathews and even SWR. Hope for the best but let’s not be surprised if several don’t make it. 

    23 hours ago, mnfireman said:

    I think people need to go re-look at Cleveland's pitching pipeline, there were trades and FA signings involved in building it. The same can generally be said of most MLB teams.

    I would add the Braves who regularly bring up pitchers who step right into the major league lineup. And the Brewers who last year started 17 different pitchers (including having their ace--Brandon Woodruff our all of last year and this year so far).



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