Can Ryne Harper Continue His Early-Season Success?

Nice while it lasted.

Any analysis on Kimbrel?

After giving up a 3-run homer tonight, this may not be the best time to sing Harper's praises. However, I do now see what form of magic he is throwing. It's the curve ball that he can throw at many speeds and to many locations, avoiding the middle most of the time. 

Harper's fast ball goes between 89 and 91, which is not impressive, except that his motion is pretty similar to his curve. The homer was Castro's fault, for giving in to a good hitter, Carlos Correa. Trouble was, it needed to be located in a corner, not middle in. 

For Harper to stick in the show, he needs to start hitting corners with his meager heater. Then he can use the gas to finish off hitters, after getting them in a hole with the curve. That, or develop a third pitch, like a slider or a good change. Harper's curve/heater combo isn't quite enough, after hitters get more accustomed to his repertoire. 

Or, he can just throw more curves. Very seldom do guys square that up, even if they're expecting it. 

One other option would be for Harper to learn that little cutter that kept Bartolo Colon in the majors for an extra ten years. Somebody got his phone number? 

I have no idea if he will continue his success but everyone gives up occasional homers.   Everyone.    Just watching on tv but it does seem like there are days it looks like I could hit him and others where it looks tough for anyone to hit him.   If a manager has any value at all it would be to keep him on a short leash during the former and to lengthen it for the latter.

I have more faith in Magil.  He was a pleasant surprise last year, and Molly used him in an odd manner, as there were a few times where he would not pitch for over a week.  But he has some kind of track record, where as Harper, despite some modest success this month, has more of an up hill climb.  Of course a great story, and hoping he sticks.

Meh! He got roughed up a little tonight. Time will tell. His upside is that he hasn't walked himself into disaster innings and fielders really do appreciate that.

Maybe he could develop a palm ball or something.

 

The league might be able to make some adjustments but his change in speeds separates him from the pack at this point.

at this point ... 9 innings pitched into his major league career as a 30 year old rookie. i think the league will make adjustments

i like the 'career minor leaguer makes the show' story as much as anyone else, but if we're still talking about ryne harper in august, it's because the twins are 10+ games out

I like the Rudy story and the sire of Ft. Myers as much as anyone. I am sure even Harper himself knows that when Magill, Moya, and Reed come back he will be in Rochester. If he holds it together he could be part of the "overworked bullpen shuttle" that is sure to come later this summer. Whoever we run out there is going to have their bad days. This guy wasn't gonna be perfect all year. I hope he stays positive and keeps trying to get better every single day.

Tony Fiore had a really good year once. Fingers crossed.

So Castro wanted it in the wheelhouse, with absolutely no movement? I don't think so. Castro didn't throw the pitch there.

 

I'm not betting on him..... weith 5/8 inherieted runners scored so far. But I thought that from the get go, when they announced he had made the roster. I might have prejudice. Like ST counts, eh?

No, Castro didn't ask for it in the Correa's wheelhouse. The real problem is that Ryne Harper's fastball has no significant movement. He does a good job of mixing it in with his many curves, but his relative lack of command of the heater, combined with its barely adequate velocity and lack of movement, make it meat for the league's best hitters, of which Carlos Correa is definitely one. 

I mentioned later that Harper could try adding one more pitch, but after mulling it over I think he should try to learn the cutter technique used by Greg Maddux and Bartolo Colon. Both men threw the pitch in the upper 80's to low 90's for great effect. A cutter like that would give Ryne Harper a fastball as effective as his curve balls at getting multiple whiffs. 

Of course this is a simplistic solution offered by a dubious source of sports wisdom. However, Harper looks like the kind of pitcher that might make it work. He already is a control pitcher with relatively fine command of a difficult pitch, the curve. The Maddux-style cutter would allow him to throw a fastball at the left side of the zone, then have it break outside the zone late, at least getting the ball off the bat's sweet spot, unlike his current heater, which tracks nice and straight right into the heart of the lumber. 

Other than that, he could keep throwing curves, which is my gripe about Castro. The catcher should know which pitches to avoid, not just which locations. If Correa was having trouble straightening out the curve, then keep flashing number 2. Giving Correa a cut at Harper's BP heater on a 3-2 count strikes me as just irresponsible. Frankly, it'd be better to walk the guy. 

Tony Fiore had a really good year once. Fingers crossed.

Didn't he throw a "palmball"?

No, Castro didn't ask for it in the Correa's wheelhouse. The real problem is that Ryne Harper's fastball has no significant movement. He does a good job of mixing it in with his many curves, but his relative lack of command of the heater, combined with its barely adequate velocity and lack of movement, make it meat for the league's best hitters, of which Carlos Correa is definitely one.

 

I mentioned later that Harper could try adding one more pitch, but after mulling it over I think he should try to learn the cutter technique used by Greg Maddux and Bartolo Colon. Both men threw the pitch in the upper 80's to low 90's for great effect. A cutter like that would give Ryne Harper a fastball as effective as his curve balls at getting multiple whiffs.

 

Of course this is a simplistic solution offered by a dubious source of sports wisdom. However, Harper looks like the kind of pitcher that might make it work. He already is a control pitcher with relatively fine command of a difficult pitch, the curve. The Maddux-style cutter would allow him to throw a fastball at the left side of the zone, then have it break outside the zone late, at least getting the ball off the bat's sweet spot, unlike his current heater, which tracks nice and straight right into the heart of the lumber.

 

Other than that, he could keep throwing curves, which is my gripe about Castro. The catcher should know which pitches to avoid, not just which locations. If Correa was having trouble straightening out the curve, then keep flashing number 2. Giving Correa a cut at Harper's BP heater on a 3-2 count strikes me as just irresponsible. Frankly, it'd be better to walk the guy.

The pitcher can shake him off. Pitch selection is on the pitcher.

Does anyone else get a "Pat Neshek" vibe from Harper? It doesn't look crazy impressive watching him pitch, but inducing weak contact is still an effective way to pitch. I think he could be a decent bullpen guy for a long time to come if he continues to improve on what makes him effective now. Maybe a 6th/7th inning guy. Not amazing, but useful.

The pitcher can shake him off. Pitch selection is on the pitcher.

Of course, the rookie pitcher, just barely hanging on, can shake off the veteran first round draft pick catcher known for his defensive catching prowess. Sure, he can shake off his call. It might even happen, one time in about a hundred. Otherwise, the rookie throws whatever the catcher asks for, and tries to hit the glove each time. In a pressure situation, it's Castro's call. 

Of course, the rookie pitcher, just barely hanging on, can shake off the veteran first round draft pick catcher known for his defensive catching prowess. Sure, he can shake off his call. It might even happen, one time in about a hundred. Otherwise, the rookie throws whatever the catcher asks for, and tries to hit the glove each time. In a pressure situation, it's Castro's call.

He's not your typical rookie. If he's not comfortable shaking off the catcher, I don't want him on the team.

Sorry. He's a slop thrower. Couldn't break a window with his fastball. Big league hitters get paid really big bucks feast on this kind of pitching.

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