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    Can Royce Lewis Stick at Third Base, or Do Twins Need to Move Him Elsewhere?


    Cody Schoenmann

    The Twins' star third baseman has struggled defensively at the hot corner this year. Should the Twins move him off the position over the winter?

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    According to Outs Above Average (OAA) at Baseball Savant, Royce Lewis currently grades out as average at third base. Owning a 0 OAA ranks him second on the team, to Kyle Farmer (1 OAA). Due to missing too many games, the Twins' star third baseman doesn't qualify for league-wide leaderboards. If he did, however, he would reside in the 19-21 range, alongside Enrique Hernández, Trey Lipscomb, and José Ramirez. Lewis is still an extraordinary athlete who shows it at times, but on a day-to-day basis, he doesn't make as many plays as an average fielder.

    Lewis is a fringe-average third baseman, according to most defensive metrics. However, the eye test tells a different story. Whether it be bobbling what should be routine groundballs, struggling to get a glove on balls in the "5.5-hole," or bouncing or sailing throws to first base while releasing from an awkward overhead arm angle, the former first-round pick looks uncomfortable at the hot corner. His inability to find his footing in the position could stem from often missing extended time due to various significant injuries. Still, his recent blunders have negatively affected to team's ability to get out of innings and protect leads.

    Rightfully, the team will give the star 25-year-old endless opportunities at third base for the rest of this season. Lewis, his agent Scott Boras, and Twins decision-makers agree that he is best suited at third base for the time being. Playing him in center field is no longer an option, and a transition to his natural position (shortstop) is out of the question, both because .Carlos Correa exists and because injuries have sapped Lewis's athleticism.

    Lewis will always factor into the designated hitter mix. Yet, there are positions other than third base he could be better suited to play next season and beyond, and with José Miranda and Brooks Lee becoming intriguing options at the position, the Twins could be incentivized to make the tough decision of moving Lewis. So, what positions could Lewis be more equipped to play? Let's take a look.

    Second Base
    The first position the Twins could justifiably move Lewis to is second base. The keystone is considered lower on the new defensive spectrum, as positioning and rules changes have made the position easier and less dangerous. However, if Lewis were to transition to the position, he would need to cover more ground and learn the nuances of turning double plays and tagging runners on throws down from the catcher.

    The organization's long-term outlook for the position is uncertain. Willi Castro will enter free agency after next season, and Edouard Julien has been unable to produce at the plate at the major-league level, despite vast defensive improvements. Austin Martin is best utilized as a versatile bench guy, rather than being stuck at one position, and infield prospect Luke Keaschall will spend significant time recovering from Tommy John surgery to begin next season. Lee makes sense as a long-term option, yet he would provide the most value as an above-average defensive third baseman.

    While moving Lewis to second base makes sense on the surface, the transition likely won't happen. The risk of injury is still higher at second base than third, due to a greater chance of colliding with runners and the need to make faster, twitchier movements more often. Keeping Lewis healthy and his bat in the lineup are the top priorities for the Twins, meaning it wouldn't make sense for the organization to place him at a position where he is more likely to sustain an injury.

    Left Field
    Lewis has played two innings in left field since being selected first overall by the Twins in the 2017 MLB Draft. His sole appearance at the position occurred in 2022, when the organization was testing him at various positions at Triple-A with the intention of deploying him in a utility role with the parent club. Unfortunately, he tore his right ACL while playing center field soon after. That said, it is fair to assume he would have appeared in left field at some point that year, if he hadn't sustained the season-ending injury.

    Max Kepler is expected to sign elsewhere this upcoming offseason, leaving an opening in the corner outfield spots. Upon Kepler's departure, Matt Wallner will likely become the full-time right fielder, leaving an opening in left field. Trevor Larnach will get the bulk of the opportunities at the position. Yet, he is better suited in a part-time role. The Twins could convert Lewis into a left fielder and have him patrol the position part-time alongside Larnach, Martin, and Castro. Lewis could switch between left field and DH duties, allowing the team to maximize flexibility while playing him at a position with little injury threat and low on the defensive spectrum. Nevertheless, Lewis and his representation appear squeamish about the idea of him playing in the outfield, likely making this idea implausible. With second base and left field seemingly functioning as nonstarters, what position could the Twins and Lewis realistically agree on?

    First Base
    The most intriguing (yet least discussed) possibility is turning Lewis into the team's primary first baseman next season. Admittedly, this idea feels far-fetched, but there is some merit behind the logic. Now, first base isn't a position where a manager can place anyone there and get by. First base is much more challenging than many perceive it to be, and those who excel at the position (hello, Carlos Santana) deserve more recognition than they often receive. With a little work, though, Lewis could be great at the spot.

    As noted, Lewis and his agency seemingly want him to stay in the dirt, while avoiding a position that puts him at greater risk of injury. Despite the rare collision, first base is one of the least injury-risky positions in the sport. The cold corner would provide the franchise cornerstone talent the opportunity to stay in the infield, while not needing to make exceptionally challenging plays at the hot corner or those long throws that seem to vex him. Although he would need to learn the nuances of the position and work on his ability to pick errant throws, there is no reason to believe he couldn't adequately develop those skills.

    Lewis's greatest strength at third base is his glovework. He has good hand-eye coordination, and it translates to picking the ball cleanly much of the time. Footwork, range, and throws are his weak points. Transitioning to first base would allow him to lean into that strength while not needing to stress about the rest.

    Turning into the primary first baseman would allow Lewis to lean into his bat, where most of his value resides. Lewis has the skillset and explosive in-game power necessary to produce like the top offensive AL first basemen, such as Josh Naylor, Vladimir Guerrero Jr., and Ryan O'Hearn. Santana's free agency this upcoming offseason leaves a sizable hole at first base. Miranda and Julien could ostensibly fill it. Alternatively, though, the organization could make a bold move and move Lewis to the offense-first position.

    Nevertheless, feeling confident about Lewis at any one position is nearly impossible. Each position will inevitably present a downside. He doesn't have the skillset necessary to stay at third base long-term; second base presents an increased injury risk; and plopping him at left field or first base would diminish his value. Still, what is most important is keeping him healthy and ensuring his bat stays in the lineup. While it's not appealing, the Twins could be highly incentivized to convert Lewis into a left fielder or first baseman while providing him more opportunities as a designated hitter.

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    I like Lewis and Miranda covering 1b/3rd base. Either can DH as well. Having both of them in the lineup at the same time should be priority. If we give Santana another year, which is an idea I like, then he'll cover first. Lee/Julien at 2nd. Correa at SS. Lewis and Miranda cover 3rd and DH. Wallner will be our starting right fielder so he'll get less DH at bats. As much as I like Castro and to a lesser extent Martin, I hope Twins go out and get a good left fielder. Even if it's a one year deal until E Rodriguez is ready. Plus, we need a Buxton backup. Which is why I'd like to see if Keirsey can stick in the majors...

    1 hour ago, Fatbat said:

    Lewis is going to have a few defensive homes in his career. Has anyone else noticed that he has added weight and muscle mass to his core?  He isnt lanky anymore. Eventually he will probably move to 1B and when he is still hitting HR’s every other AB, he will become a DH at 41 years old. 

    Dont think he will be in MLB at 41

    Falvey's front office has a long history of developing poor fielders. Quality fielding is not something we're going to see coming up from the minors from this front office. Theoretical versatility is their focus name of the game. What's the last good fielder the Twins have developed under Falvey? Go ahead. Take a minute to think about it.
    Rooker?
    Larnach?
    Julien?
    Polanco?
    Gordon?
    Miranda?
    Martin?
    Kirilloff?
    Jeffers?

    Kepler, Sano and Buxton all reached the majors under Terry Ryan. The Twins ditched their only premier fielding prospect in recent years, Noah Miller, a prospect who looks like a perennial gold glover if his bat can play. Brooks Lee has looked good in ultra small sample sizes, but he's also had a couple costly misplays not to mention Brooks Lee came into the Twins' organization well coached and out of college with great defensive instincts to begin with.

    Advocating a top tier athlete who plays a premium defensive position be moved to first base seems to border on trolling. If Lewis wants to become an elite 3B, he can. If Lewis wants to become a good SS, he can. He's got the tools. Now he needs decent coaching, effort, and experience.

    When Lewis made the scene in 2022 there was a rush to get his bat into the lineup. I was at that I'll fated game where  he blew out his knee in CF.

    Thiat said, LF would seem to be where the team needs him most. Lewis is an excellent athlete and LF is a safer and easier position than CF or 2B.

    We have a plethora of capable infielders, potentially a great one, and Lewis is the least of them. He is however, the best bat and putting him in LF is the best fit by far. 

    2 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

    I agree with everyone else that it's too soon to pull the plug on him at 3B. I'm not sure he's the best option there (I think Lee is better there defensively), but until somebody pushes him out of the spot I wouldn't move him yet. I do think, no matter where he plays, he should spend the offseason reworking his throwing motion, though.

    I've never seen such an athletic person look so uncomfortable throwing. I don't remember if he's always thrown that way or if he's trying to emulate Correa or what, but it looks like he's thinking about how to throw the ball on routine plays and it looks so uncomfortable. On quick hitting plays where he isn't thinking and is just reacting and playing he looks much more athletic, to me. But on routine plays where he takes a couple hop steps to first and throws from that super uncomfortable looking angle he looks like he's thinking about everything and he looks so unathletic. Whether he moves to 2B, or even 1B (I hope he's not all the way down to 1B anytime soon), I think they should rework his throwing motion.

    This is what I see as well and reminds me again that he still has less than 500 games total in all levels of pro ball in 6 years.  Very little of it uninterrupted by injury.  He just now has 100 games at third.  A lot of what we see is coachable and technique related and a lot is just experience and reps.

    I'm of the mind that I want to see him there for a healthy full season but I'm also afraid he might just not be a major league 3rd baseman.  I don't have a lot of memories of his time at short but 55 errors in just over 300 games (.955 field %) is unfortunately very similar to what we are seeing at third now.  

    The Padres might be one to emulate here.  Former (well paid) SS Tatis is platinum glove in right, Uber SS prospect Merrill is a stud in center.  Even Profar came up as a SS.

    Lewis is probably a darn good left fielder at the end of the day and Boras is well aware that if he is winning gold gloves and raking he gets his money anyway.  The longer he stays at third, if he in fact cannot play there long term, only lowers the value and risks injury.  Having legitimate dudes to fill in behind him helps.

    The next 12 months will tell us a lot. 

    1 hour ago, USAFChief said:

    I might be no one, but I'm talking about moving Lewis to first base.

    In 2025, of course. 

    We need to get past the fallacy that a base hit counts for less or more depending on where you stand on defense. 

    Which I'll say again, if we're seriously talking about moving him to 1B, trade him. Of course, no one serious is actually discussing it so its moot.

    But if we're talking about an admittedly elite bat that can't stay on the field, and now moving to 1B? Never heard an idea more ridiculous. 

    14 minutes ago, NYCTK said:

    Which I'll say again, if we're seriously talking about moving him to 1B, trade him. Of course, no one serious is actually discussing it so its moot.

    But if we're talking about an admittedly elite bat that can't stay on the field, and now moving to 1B? Never heard an idea more ridiculous. 

    Why would you trade an elite bat?

    And why is 1st base some badge of dishonor? Should the Twins have traded Harmon Killebrew rather than move him to 1st? From 3rd, BTW.

    Was Hrbek worthless? Morneau? 

    Again, we need to move past the idea that somehow Lewis's offense doesn't count as much if he's standing at 1st. They don't deduct 15 runs at the end of the season in real life like they do at Fangraphs. 

    He can be a good first baseman, and possibly be more likely to stay on the field. The Twins need a 1st baseman too.

     

    36 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

    Noah Miller, a prospect who looks like a perennial gold glover if his bat can play

    Dude has hit 230 in his minors career. He has made it up to AA, but even if he makes the show, he's going to be a backup infielder. They were completely right to trade him away. But sadly we had to take Margot in return so they won the trade by default. 

    36 minutes ago, KBJ1 said:

    I was at that I'll fated game where  he blew out his knee in CF.

    It's easy to say it was a mistake in hindsight, but the team did the 100% right thing by playing him at that position on that day. You can't be afraid to move ATHLETES around the field because you're afraid someone's body is made of glass. 

     

    45 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

    Falvey's front office has a long history of developing poor fielders. Quality fielding is not something we're going to see coming up from the minors from this front office. Theoretical versatility is their focus name of the game. What's the last good fielder the Twins have developed under Falvey? Go ahead. Take a minute to think about it.
    Rooker?
    Larnach?
    Julien?
    Polanco?
    Gordon?
    Miranda?
    Martin?
    Kirilloff?
    Jeffers?

    Kepler, Sano and Buxton all reached the majors under Terry Ryan. The Twins ditched their only premier fielding prospect in recent years, Noah Miller, a prospect who looks like a perennial gold glover if his bat can play. Brooks Lee has looked good in ultra small sample sizes, but he's also had a couple costly misplays not to mention Brooks Lee came into the Twins' organization well coached and out of college with great defensive instincts to begin with.

    Advocating a top tier athlete who plays a premium defensive position be moved to first base seems to border on trolling. If Lewis wants to become an elite 3B, he can. If Lewis wants to become a good SS, he can. He's got the tools. Now he needs decent coaching, effort, and experience.

    I think you have a valid point. This FO values the bat almost exclusively and worries about where they will play later. Perhaps this is the correct strategy as it is certainly based on a ton of research. But it is also clear why we don’t have many plus defenders coming from our system. I agree with you that Royce should be a plus defender somewhere but it won’t be SS. 

    He's played a total of 624 innings at third. That breaks down 69.33 games at 3rd. Not even half a season. Could they move him? Sure. Should they? Maybe let's wait for bigger sample.

    1 minute ago, TFRazor said:

    He's played a total of 624 innings at third. That breaks down 69.33 games at 3rd. Not even half a season. Could they move him? Sure. Should they? Maybe let's wait for bigger sample.

    Will also point out, that according to statcast, he's got a better success and expected success rate this year than last by about 4 percentage points. 68/69 in 2023 to 72/73 in 2024. 

    There are 42 more games left in the regular season and I hope more left in the playoffs. I hope most of the games have Lewis at third, Correa at short, Lee at second and Santana at 3rd. With Miranda bouncing around first, third and Dh. I doubt they resign Santana although he looks like he deserves a 2-3 year contract but I doubt the Twins offer the money. Kepler won't be back, the second half of last year looks to have been a fluke.

    Next year I think Lewis plays third with Lee at second, Correa at short  and probably Miranda at first. Kirilloff is a question mark, though he is a very good hitter when healthy. Julian and Keaschall will be beating on the major league door.  Keaschall also plays some outfield and as a right handed hitter he may get a lot of time backing up center and starting in left. Probably more towards the middle of the year. Hopefully the offseason programs consist of plenty of time spent learning to stay healthy and reporting when injured.

    1 hour ago, USAFChief said:

    I might be no one, but I'm talking about moving Lewis to first base.

    In 2025, of course. 

    We need to get past the fallacy that a base hit counts for less or more depending on where you stand on defense. 

    If it's a fallacy, why doesn't a 1B that hits like Correa or Lindor get paid like Correa or Lindor?  It's much easier to find a 1B that is a well above average hitter than it is to find a catcher, CF or SS.  Therefore, an elite hitter in a premium defensive position provides a team with an advantage.

    5 minutes ago, TFRazor said:

    Will also point out, that according to statcast, he's got a better success and expected success rate this year than last by about 4 percentage points. 68/69 in 2023 to 72/73 in 2024. 

    Which is slightly better than Miranda this year and way better than Miranda last year. And his arm is significantly stronger than Miranda's. But sure, let's move the better athlete and defender off the position based on a fabricated belief that it might help him stay healthier? 

    1 minute ago, gman said:

    Lee at second

    Would love to see Lee play well enough to earn 2B, but man he really stunk. The last 89 PAs his OPS was 520. He didn't look outmatched and his peripherals suggest he should perform much better than that. But woof! I have a lot more faith in him being a good big leaguer than Julien, though, that's for sure. 

    5 minutes ago, Major League Ready said:

    If it's a fallacy, why doesn't a 1B that hits like Correa or Lindor get paid like Correa or Lindor?  It's much easier to find a 1B that is a well above average hitter than it is to find a catcher, CF or SS.  Therefore, an elite hitter in a premium defensive position provides a team with an advantage.

    Freddie Freeman (6/$162 at age 32) and Bruce Harper (13/$330) say hi.

    Teams pay for offense, no matter the position. 

     

    1 hour ago, bean5302 said:

    Falvey's front office has a long history of developing poor fielders. Quality fielding is not something we're going to see coming up from the minors from this front office. Theoretical versatility is their focus name of the game. What's the last good fielder the Twins have developed under Falvey? Go ahead. Take a minute to think about it.
    Rooker?
    Larnach?
    Julien?
    Polanco?
    Gordon?
    Miranda?
    Martin?
    Kirilloff?
    Jeffers?

    Kepler, Sano and Buxton all reached the majors under Terry Ryan. The Twins ditched their only premier fielding prospect in recent years, Noah Miller, a prospect who looks like a perennial gold glover if his bat can play. Brooks Lee has looked good in ultra small sample sizes, but he's also had a couple costly misplays not to mention Brooks Lee came into the Twins' organization well coached and out of college with great defensive instincts to begin with.

    Advocating a top tier athlete who plays a premium defensive position be moved to first base seems to border on trolling. If Lewis wants to become an elite 3B, he can. If Lewis wants to become a good SS, he can. He's got the tools. Now he needs decent coaching, effort, and experience.

    TLDR-don't bother.

    To what would you attribute the vast improvements of Eduard Julien?  Jeffers drafted as a bat first catcher?  You are correct that they value versatility but c'mon man.  Defense is very important to them, like playing Santana when he was hitting a buck o 5.

    4 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

    Freddie Freeman (6/$162 at age 32) and Bruce Harper (13/$330) say hi.

    Teams pay for offense, no matter the position. 

     

    But they do pay more for offense at a premium position.  Harper wasn't a 1B when he signed that contract.  Outfielders do very well if they can hit and Boras knows that.

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    Obviously, everyone needs to be healthy for anything to matter.  But, if we have a better defender at 3rd in Brooks Lee or Miranda, and at 2nd in Julien or Keaschall, I don’t care what Boras or Lewis want.  No special treatment.  He’s obviously a bit shaky at third.  He could fine tune his technique a but, but he doesn’t have the arm, which isn’t something you can fix.  He’ll never be able to make consistently make those ranging plays to his right fading into foul territory or the squibs that require charging and throwing off balance.

    Id like to see him in left, The problem is he can’t run without getting hurt.  That leaves first, which I’m fine with.  The question is, does he continue to hit as well and for as much power as he has in his relatively small MLB sample size?  I don’t think so.  He’s clearly a very good hitter, but I don’t see him continuing his elite HR/AB and slugging numbers.  Still certainly good at 1B as a .275 25 HR type guy, but I wouldn’t call that a “superstar” at 1B (or any position, really, outside of CF/2B) unless he’s providing some top tier defense as well.

    Another factor:  Is Correa sticking at shortstop for the remainder of his contract?  With his lower body injuries, is it better to move him off of short at some point down the road?  His skill set would make him one of the better defensive 3B in the game, and his range and ability to play through things may play better there than SS if the foot issues are a constant issue.

    Im not opposed to idea mentioned above of a trade.  His value is sky high right now.  Even considering the injury history, maybe higher than what his output would be going forward once you factor in likely regression in power numbers.  I’m not advocating dumping him at a discount, only if the price is right.  Very unlikely, especially if they squeak into the postseason.  But it may be a wise move.  Especially if they’re going to be to cheap to pay him down the road.

    10 minutes ago, Beast said:

    The problem is he can’t run without getting hurt. 

    Yep. If we're resigned to this fact, we should trade him. I don't think that's true, but if you do, Royce is simply not a valuable player and he would return way more than he's actually worth. 

    2 hours ago, USAFChief said:

    We need to get past the fallacy that a base hit counts for less or more depending on where you stand on defense. 

    I doubt you'd find anyone competent in a major league FO holding to such a mistaken view.

    What they might say is that where you stand on defense gives your team more (or less) flexibility in finding more base hits elsewhere on the diamond.

    The fallacy, if there is one, is spending $5M on a Carlos Santana and declaring him to be a bargain. I personally aim higher than his current .754 OPS, because you can find first basemen who hit far better than that.

    It's much less easy to find someone who plays SS as well as Carlos Correa does and who also hits like a first baseman is expected to.  The jury's still out whether Royce Lewis can be that kind of player too, but if he is, he gives the Twins a chance to add a third masher "who hits like a first baseman," and then actually play him there.  The tragedy is the players they've tried there (like Kirilloff) who haven't performed, and then settling for a $5m bargain.

    The hits count the same, but you can get more of them than they currently are.

    4 minutes ago, ashbury said:

     

    The hits count the same, but you can get more of them than they currently are.

    With...say...Miranda at 3rd, Correa at SS, and Lewis at 1st?

    With Lee backing up SS and 3rd?

    With the added benefit of perhaps a little better defense? Possibly better health?

    2 hours ago, bean5302 said:

    Falvey's front office has a long history of developing poor fielders. Quality fielding is not something we're going to see coming up from the minors from this front office. Theoretical versatility is their focus name of the game. What's the last good fielder the Twins have developed under Falvey? Go ahead. Take a minute to think about it.
    Rooker?
    Larnach?
    Julien?
    Polanco?
    Gordon?
    Miranda?
    Martin?
    Kirilloff?
    Jeffers?

    Kepler, Sano and Buxton all reached the majors under Terry Ryan. The Twins ditched their only premier fielding prospect in recent years, Noah Miller, a prospect who looks like a perennial gold glover if his bat can play. Brooks Lee has looked good in ultra small sample sizes, but he's also had a couple costly misplays not to mention Brooks Lee came into the Twins' organization well coached and out of college with great defensive instincts to begin with.

    Advocating a top tier athlete who plays a premium defensive position be moved to first base seems to border on trolling. If Lewis wants to become an elite 3B, he can. If Lewis wants to become a good SS, he can. He's got the tools. Now he needs decent coaching, effort, and experience.

    The FO definitely has a bat first focus. Plenty of guys have the ability to be gold glove but it takes focus.  I still see Noah Miller being a greg gagne type if/when he gets his shot.

    Culpepper and Jenkins may come with defensive chops but so far, there has been a lack of defense development/focus.

    1 hour ago, USAFChief said:

    Freddie Freeman (6/$162 at age 32) and Bruce Harper (13/$330) say hi.

    Teams pay for offense, no matter the position. 

     

    Those guys don't hit like Correa or Lindor, they hit much better than Correa and Lindor - which is precisely the point being made. No 1B with an .800 OPS is getting paid close to 30 mil a year.

    Rhys Hoskins got 2/$34.




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