InfraRen Provisional Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I like it! Prime him up to take over for Gardy in a couple years?
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 According to the Twins:He will oversee base running, bunting and infield instruction, PLUS assist with in-game strategy. His last MLB coaching duty was as hitting coach of the Mariners in 2004.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Bet that's all they needed to get to a semi-respectable record/sarcasm
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Like the change from Joe Vavra to Tom Brunansky was something that many Twins fans wanted, I'm sure that this addition of Paul Molitor will push the Twins to another World Series title! I'm actually OK with Molitor. He is very respected by the minor leaguers. He's obviously quite knowledgeable.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Another opportunity to add a Spanish-speaking coach who might relate to some of the up and coming players down the drain. The old boys club lives on (unfortunately their results don't thrive.)
matthew0211 Verified Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I like Molitor on the staff, but it should be at the expense of Vavra or Ullger with someone from outside brought in as well; this organization needs some new blood in coaching/leadership roles.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Another opportunity to add a Spanish-speaking coach who might relate to some of the up and coming players down the drain. The old boys club lives on (unfortunately their results don't thrive.) Or you could view it as "they added a Hall of Fame player who is one of the smartest hitters of the last generation and is widely respected throughout the league". Really, I don't see how anyone can complain about this move. Every time I hear Molitor talk about baseball, I leave impressed. Yeah, it'd be nice to add a Spanish-speaking coach as well but this is Paul Molitor, for Christ's sake. If that guy's available, you hire him. Period.
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I'm ambivalent. I don't really think coaching at the ML level matters that much but I do think the Twins need to bring in some Latino coaches. I get that a guy like Molitor - HOF player - can relate to guys in ways Vavra etc can't. And if Sano, Buxton etc have an appreciation of baseball history, they'll listen more to him. And he certainly knows a thing or two about baserunning and the "little things" that add up. But he hasn't really coached much and I'm not sure how much he can really help. I wish the Twins would pursue someone like Orlando Cabrera who definitely played baseball the "Twins way" who might be able to make the transition from the minors to the majors easier for guys like Sano, Arcia and Rosario.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I like Molitor on the staff, but it should be at the expense of Vavra or Ullger with someone from outside brought in as well; this organization needs some new blood in coaching/leadership roles. Vavra, no. He was a pretty decent hitting coach. Ullger should have been fired ten years ago.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Is Ullger really hurting anything at this point? I like bringing Molitor in, alot. Having a guy with a track record like that can be nothing but a positive influence. Also, he battled his demons as a young ball player, with the team about to get extremely young in the next year or two, having a guy like Molitor who can warn about some of the temptations to the youngsters is a GOOD thing IMO.
SweetOne69 Verified Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I like Molitor on the staff, but it should be at the expense of Vavra or Ullger with someone from outside brought in as well; this organization needs some new blood in coaching/leadership roles. I agree. With the additions/re-assignments over the last 2 offseasons, only 1 coach was actually let go while 3 have been added. They now have 8 full time coaches on the staff.
SweetOne69 Verified Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I'm ambivalent. I don't really think coaching at the ML level matters that much but I do think the Twins need to bring in some Latino coaches. I get that a guy like Molitor - HOF player - can relate to guys in ways Vavra etc can't. And if Sano, Buxton etc have an appreciation of baseball history, they'll listen more to him. And he certainly knows a thing or two about baserunning and the "little things" that add up. But he hasn't really coached much and I'm not sure how much he can really help. I wish the Twins would pursue someone like Orlando Cabrera who definitely played baseball the "Twins way" who might be able to make the transition from the minors to the majors easier for guys like Sano, Arcia and Rosario. The reason that he hasn't coached was because he wanted to spend time with family after he retired. Now that his kids are older, he wants to get more involved in the game again. He has been a "guest" coach at Spring Training for several years, so it isn't like he has been away completely since he retired.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Do they need to make room for Molitor or can they simply add him to the coaches already on the staff?
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Another opportunity to add a Spanish-speaking coach who might relate to some of the up and coming players down the drain. The old boys club lives on (unfortunately their results don't thrive.) I'm right there with you. The Cubs have come out and said they will higher a coach, at least a bench coach, that is Latin american to help the next wave of talent adjust to the bigs. I love Monitor as much as the next fan but the Twins more than any organization needs fresh blood. Instead this is business as usual.
panolo Provisional Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I like it! Any truth to the rumors that he and Gardy don't always see eye to eye?
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I like it! Any truth to the rumors that he and Gardy don't always see eye to eye? I doubt it. Molitor wanted to be the manager when Ryan hired Gardy but other than that I don't think there's any bad blood between the two. As mentioned, he's been a pretty consistent presence at ST every year.
Winston Smith Verified Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I have nothing against Molitor and he was a great player, however this team really needs a latin presence on it's coaching staff, imo. If they need room Ullger should have been gone years ago.
TRex Provisional Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 When I hear Molitor talk, it sounds like TK to me... he doesn't mince his words and will go after a player with the "drive in two but let in three" comment even after a win. I wonder how it will go over in the clubhouse to have someone so openly critical (demanding may be a better adjective) be 'under' the rah-rah Gardy. I imagine the play-off between the dour TK and the buddy-buddy Gardenhire worked great, but good-cop/bad-cop always works better if the 'bad cop' is the one in control!
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I like it! Any truth to the rumors that he and Gardy don't always see eye to eye? No two people see eye to eye all the time, but they will work together well. I think they're fairly close and certainly respect each other.
Oldgoat_MN Verified Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I don't think hiring Molitor is bad business. I like the move.Doesn't mean I don't see value in having a Latin American coach as well. I suspect a team is allowed to hire as many coaches as they want, but I believe there is a limit on how many can be in the dugout during a game. Does anyone have info on this?
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Do they need to make room for Molitor or can they simply add him to the coaches already on the staff? Can simply add him.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 At the end of spring training last year, MLB said teams could add one on-field coach. So, they can't add an infinite amount, but they were one short.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Vavra, no. He was a pretty decent hitting coach. Vavra's good. He is the most "new school" coach they have. He's the one that really gets the advanced stats and made most use of video and such.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I give this move two huge thumbs up. Excellent news.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Vavra's good. He is the most "new school" coach they have. He's the one that really gets the advanced stats and made most use of video and such. Yep. I don't get the Vavra-bashing. The Twins were a solid offensive team during his tenure, barring 2011 when they were crushed by injuries.
DJL44 Old-Timey Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Bobby Cuellar is of Mexican descent and speaks Spanish. I agree that Latino coaches are underrepresented when compared to Latino players but the Twins aren't completely ignoring it.
BabyJesusBuxton Provisional Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Barring a playoff appearance in 2015 I think Molitor is in position to be the next Twins manager. He is familiar with all the prospects in the minors because of his role as a roving instructor which will only help once they make it to the majors. I think such a move will be inevitable unless Gardy can get the team back into the playoffs before the end of his extension.
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