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Houston had a very good season. I had a lot of questions about his bat, and he's doing a great job in quelling them so far. The glove is probably MLB-ready right now, which is a nice base to start from. It will be interesting to see where they start him next season; AAA would be an aggressive promotion, but hardly unwarranted. Expecting him to make the team out of spring training? Exceptionally unlikely.

People get excited about the 50 steals, but should calm down. Kala'i Rosario swiped like 30 bags in AA and he's not that fast. Houston has good speed and should be an effective runner in MLB, but the 50 steals in 2026 doesn't really mean much. It's really easy to get steals in the minors if you're even a little aggressive about it.

There's still some questions Houston needs to answer about his bat, even though he did a very good job in his first full pro season. As he faces more advanced pitchers and teams start to get a book on him, can he make adjustments? I've been impressed on how he's done facing down pitchers older than he is so far, but I'd like a little more evidence that his approach at the plate will work for him long term. He had a couple of power outages last season; while he doesn't need to be a 20 homer type of player to be a real asset, he also needs to be more than just a slap hitter. The 40 xbh in 116 games was encouraging as well...can he keep that going?

He's on a really good path. Looking forward to seeing him earn his way to the starting SS job. Culpepper will slide over to 2B nicely if Houston shows he's ready.

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9 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

And had a SLG 120 points higher

Yes, but also look at how many HR's Witt hit versus Houston. That is the difference right there. Right now, Houston profiles as a light power, more contact and base path disruption than Witt does. If Marek Houston can keep this method of offensive production, I won't mind too much at all. He'll have been our best shortstop in over 2 decades.

He is essentially turning singles in to doubles and walks into doubles with his ability to steal bases. He may never be a 30-30 player, but if he can be a 15-50 player, that works out just as much. It forces the pitchers to not give him free passes and seeing eye singles might be more damaging than originally looked at. Especially if he continues to work on making his swing a more line drive approach. Which in turn will mean the power will come, just not in the form of HR's. but more doubles and triples, especially if shot into a gap or down the line. Houston is forcing the OF to be on their toes ready to make a throw, which is incredibly useful as he progresses thru the Minors and eventually makes it to the Majors. 

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20 minutes ago, jmlease1 said:

Houston had a very good season. I had a lot of questions about his bat, and he's doing a great job in quelling them so far. The glove is probably MLB-ready right now, which is a nice base to start from. It will be interesting to see where they start him next season; AAA would be an aggressive promotion, but hardly unwarranted. Expecting him to make the team out of spring training? Exceptionally unlikely.

People get excited about the 50 steals, but should calm down. Kala'i Rosario swiped like 30 bags in AA and he's not that fast. Houston has good speed and should be an effective runner in MLB, but the 50 steals in 2026 doesn't really mean much. It's really easy to get steals in the minors if you're even a little aggressive about it.

There's still some questions Houston needs to answer about his bat, even though he did a very good job in his first full pro season. As he faces more advanced pitchers and teams start to get a book on him, can he make adjustments? I've been impressed on how he's done facing down pitchers older than he is so far, but I'd like a little more evidence that his approach at the plate will work for him long term. He had a couple of power outages last season; while he doesn't need to be a 20 homer type of player to be a real asset, he also needs to be more than just a slap hitter. The 40 xbh in 116 games was encouraging as well...can he keep that going?

He's on a really good path. Looking forward to seeing him earn his way to the starting SS job. Culpepper will slide over to 2B nicely if Houston shows he's ready.

Personally I think AAA might be the right move. If he struggles send him back to AA. Right now there isn't anyone in the organization that is screaming "I'm a better shortstop" over Houston. I definitely think he gets an invite to ST and has a chance to earn a 40-man. Sometimes organizations need to be aggressive in their development of players they see as cornerstones. This might very well be one of those moments for the Twins. There's a reason why some of our players aren't moving thru the lower level very fast and I think it's coming down to the farm director and slowly making these moves. Sometimes you gotta give them a shot to rise to occasion and see what they can do. 

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Posted
24 minutes ago, MackMan said:

Right now, Houston profiles as a light power, more contact and base path disruption than Witt does.

Witt has already won a batting title and averages 41 steals per 162 games (top 10 in 5 consecutive seasons). If Houston profiles as “more” than that then we should expect multiple batting titles while routinely leading the league in steals. I am skeptical he will achieve that level of success.

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2 hours ago, Coach said:

Maybe the Twins could pull a 'Butch Wynegar' and bring Lackey up right out of the gate, after spring training.

That'll be so wonderful. That'd solve our catching problems for a long time. But that'd take a very special person. That'd be asking a lot from him. Yet if he'd be ready at the end of '27 to help out, I'd be very satisfied.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Andy MacPhail said:

That'll be so wonderful. That'd solve our catching problems for a long time. But that'd take a very special person. That'd be asking a lot from him. Yet if he'd be ready at the end of '27 to help out, I'd be very satisfied.

I feel like digging up discussions here from 2020 about how our highly rated prospects Royce Lewis, Alex Kirilloff, Trevor Larnach and Jordan Balazovic were going to make the Twins certain contenders.

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One thing I noticed from the updated MLB Pipeline rankings linked in the article:

Of the top 11 Twins prospects, only one (Quick) is a pitcher.  Their next two highest ranked pitchers are in rookie ball (Wachsmann and Renfrow).

They have a decent pool of young depth from recent graduates,  but they should probably be proactive about this gap in the pipeline as they reshuffle the major league roster around this new potential core.  This could become a pretty expensive problem in a few years if not addressed soon

Posted
37 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

Witt has already won a batting title and averages 41 steals per 162 games (top 10 in 5 consecutive seasons). If Houston profiles as “more” than that then we should expect multiple batting titles while routinely leading the league in steals. I am skeptical he will achieve that level of success.

Now why are you skeptical? Is it because we know the Twins record of development on their players, or is that this level of offensive success isn't sustainable? I for one think that he has risen to the challenge every step along the way, including college. Now it might be possible that he wins multiple batting titles with the way the league is focusing on hitting HR's is more important than reaching base. Look at Simpson. The dude may not ever hit a homerun, but he's showing that being a singles hitter with the ability to steal is just as useful and dangerous as being a player to work around. 

Like I understand that people want to the long ball. It's more exciting to see a player crush a ball 450ft+ versus hitting a ball 91 feet and getting a base hit. But the 450+ moonshot means nothing if there's no one on base and you're down by 2. It just a really far run scored. Whereas a player who reaches via single, steals a base, and gets moved over to 3rd via groundout, sacrifice, or flyout puts pressure on the pitcher. That pressure than causes mistakes which can lead to base hits, HR's, or passed balls which allow the runner to move up and score or end the game depending on the situation.

But it isn't the whole story. The dude could come back next season and just not figure it out. End up hitting .210 and then be called a bust and we have to live with the thought of time to move onto the next SS.

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36 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

I feel like digging up discussions here from 2020 about how our highly rated prospects Royce Lewis, Alex Kirilloff, Trevor Larnach and Jordan Balazovic were going to make the Twins certain contenders.

I'm laughing because you are so right. These guys were burning it up together in the MiLB, We dreamt of them coming up together & impacting the game. Still I was advocating trading them, except Lewis if it helped the team. I was never very big on Balazovic, who was our top SP prospect & wanting MN to trade him instead of Gratorol. Some got the injury bug but mainly, IMO, I didn't like how they were managed.

Could this happen to Lackey & Houston, too? Yes, it could. But looking at it at face value, they are untouchable & are core players who can do great things in the MLB, if they are handled right. 

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16 hours ago, SE23 said:

He's played 80 games at A and A+, and 60 games at AA. So really only the equivalent of one long season. Seems like 40-50 games in St Paul is the last hurdle, then bring him up for a stretch with the Twins. If he has to bounce back and forth to AAA a time or two, so be it.

He turns 23 in April.

If someone was called up that was going to be the best hitter on the team, why not do it with the best glove, that can hold his own with the bat?  The Twins have promoted with exactly the opposite criteria (Wallner).

Posted
2 hours ago, DJL44 said:

And had a SLG 120 points higher

And Houston with 130 less plate appearances, stole 12 more bases, had 4 more runs, more walks, more hits, more doubles, higher batting average and on base percentage compared to one of the best in baseball.  I think Houston is ready.

Look at who we played in the infield last year, it was a joke!

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Posted
45 minutes ago, MackMan said:

Now why are you skeptical? Is it because we know the Twins record of development on their players, or is that this level of offensive success isn't sustainable?

The latter. There are very few players in MLB history with multiple SB and batting titles. Ty Cobb and Honus Wagner and they played 100 years ago.

It’s a huge leap to say “Houston was worse than Witt Jr in AA and he was a year older. Therefore, I think he’ll be the next Honus Wagner.”

Posted
1 hour ago, DJL44 said:

Witt has already won a batting title and averages 41 steals per 162 games (top 10 in 5 consecutive seasons). If Houston profiles as “more” than that then we should expect multiple batting titles while routinely leading the league in steals. I am skeptical he will achieve that level of success.

Houston's bat is secondary. His glove is the plus. What he does with the bat will be a bonus.  Plus, he's got wheels.

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37 minutes ago, Andy MacPhail said:

I'm laughing because you are so right. These guys were burning it up together in the MiLB, We dreamt of them coming up together & impacting the game. Still I was advocating trading them, except Lewis if it helped the team. I was never very big on Balazovic, who was our top SP prospect & wanting MN to trade him instead of Gratorol. Some got the injury bug but mainly, IMO, I didn't like how they were managed.

Could this happen to Lackey & Houston, too? Yes, it could. But looking at it at face value, they are untouchable & are core players who can do great things in the MLB, if they are handled right. 

 

1 hour ago, MackMan said:

Now why are you skeptical? Is it because we know the Twins record of development on their players, or is that this level of offensive success isn't sustainable? I for one think that he has risen to the challenge every step along the way, including college. Now it might be possible that he wins multiple batting titles with the way the league is focusing on hitting HR's is more important than reaching base. Look at Simpson. The dude may not ever hit a homerun, but he's showing that being a singles hitter with the ability to steal is just as useful and dangerous as being a player to work around. 

Like I understand that people want to the long ball. It's more exciting to see a player crush a ball 450ft+ versus hitting a ball 91 feet and getting a base hit. But the 450+ moonshot means nothing if there's no one on base and you're down by 2. It just a really far run scored. Whereas a player who reaches via single, steals a base, and gets moved over to 3rd via groundout, sacrifice, or flyout puts pressure on the pitcher. That pressure than causes mistakes which can lead to base hits, HR's, or passed balls which allow the runner to move up and score or end the game depending on the situation.

But it isn't the whole story. The dude could come back next season and just not figure it out. End up hitting .210 and then be called a bust and we have to live with the thought of time to move onto the next SS.

Mack, great take until the last paragraph downer🙁

Posted
5 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

The latter. There are very few players in MLB history with multiple SB and batting titles. Ty Cobb and Honus Wagner and they played 100 years ago.

It’s a huge leap to say “Houston was worse than Witt Jr in AA and he was a year older. Therefore, I think he’ll be the next Honus Wagner.”

I mean that's not what I said. I was just comparing 2 guys with similar profiles at the same level of play, albeit with one being a year older at that point AND the other one missing a development year during COVID. 

Do I think that Houston is going to be Bobby Witt Jr. No. Does he have a similar profile to the guy at the same level? Yes. Can a guy hope that a prospect we drafted actually achieves what would be an awesome career? Yes. 

But then you come along being a negative Nelly, explaining that would it be almost impossible for a player to achieve this type of stuff unless they played over 100 years ago. I mean maybe Houston is a generational talent that slipped by everyone the 1st time around and somehow magically fell into our laps. That isn't a complete abstract thought considering 24 teams/picks overlooked Mike Trout, who when at his peak, was a generational talent. 

I for one, like to look at the optimistic side of things and look for the positives that can come from this, whereas as you are looking at the pessimistic outlook. Maybe I want our prospects to do well in the minors until the hit majors running.  

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3 minutes ago, Coach said:

 

Mack, great take until the last paragraph downer🙁

Yeah. I know but again. I'm telling him what he wants to hear. Twins fans are so conditioned to seeing their players fail and be claimed busts, so I figured I'd tell him what he wanted to hear.

Posted
16 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

Watched quite a few minor league games this summer. Houston improved throughout the summer and was a totally more confident player than he was in 2025. The Twins should bring him to Spring Training and see what he has. Maybe Houston gets stronger and even more athletic over the winter. Definitely a player to watch.

To TR: Can he play SS with the Twins right out of the gate, especially if he looks strong in ST?  What's your take on maybe promoting him after six months in AAA, after the Twins have bought or traded for another infielder?  Thanks.

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3 hours ago, jmlease1 said:

Houston had a very good season. I had a lot of questions about his bat, and he's doing a great job in quelling them so far. The glove is probably MLB-ready right now, which is a nice base to start from. It will be interesting to see where they start him next season; AAA would be an aggressive promotion, but hardly unwarranted. Expecting him to make the team out of spring training? Exceptionally unlikely.

People get excited about the 50 steals, but should calm down. Kala'i Rosario swiped like 30 bags in AA and he's not that fast. Houston has good speed and should be an effective runner in MLB, but the 50 steals in 2026 doesn't really mean much. It's really easy to get steals in the minors if you're even a little aggressive about it.

There's still some questions Houston needs to answer about his bat, even though he did a very good job in his first full pro season. As he faces more advanced pitchers and teams start to get a book on him, can he make adjustments? I've been impressed on how he's done facing down pitchers older than he is so far, but I'd like a little more evidence that his approach at the plate will work for him long term. He had a couple of power outages last season; while he doesn't need to be a 20 homer type of player to be a real asset, he also needs to be more than just a slap hitter. The 40 xbh in 116 games was encouraging as well...can he keep that going?

He's on a really good path. Looking forward to seeing him earn his way to the starting SS job. Culpepper will slide over to 2B nicely if Houston shows he's ready.

50 steals is more than Witt had in AA.

Posted
18 minutes ago, MackMan said:

I mean that's not what I said. I was just comparing 2 guys with similar profiles at the same level of play, albeit with one being a year older at that point AND the other one missing a development year during COVID. 

Do I think that Houston is going to be Bobby Witt Jr. No. Does he have a similar profile to the guy at the same level? Yes. Can a guy hope that a prospect we drafted actually achieves what would be an awesome career? Yes. 

But then you come along being a negative Nelly, explaining that would it be almost impossible for a player to achieve this type of stuff unless they played over 100 years ago. I mean maybe Houston is a generational talent that slipped by everyone the 1st time around and somehow magically fell into our laps. That isn't a complete abstract thought considering 24 teams/picks overlooked Mike Trout, who when at his peak, was a generational talent. 

I for one, like to look at the optimistic side of things and look for the positives that can come from this, whereas as you are looking at the pessimistic outlook. Maybe I want our prospects to do well in the minors until the hit majors running.  

Houston was drafted higher than Bobby Witt jr & many teams passed over Witt. Could Houston pass Witt? Yes technically, but Witt is proven, Houston is not. But he's on the right path.

Posted
2 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Witt has already won a batting title and averages 41 steals per 162 games (top 10 in 5 consecutive seasons). If Houston profiles as “more” than that then we should expect multiple batting titles while routinely leading the league in steals. I am skeptical he will achieve that level of success.

The Twins won two Championships with Greg Gagne at short. We don't need him to be Bobby Witt.

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Posted
37 minutes ago, Andy MacPhail said:

Houston was drafted higher than Bobby Witt jr & many teams passed over Witt. Could Houston pass Witt? Yes technically, but Witt is proven, Houston is not. But he's on the right path.

Witt was the #2 pick in the draft. The Orioles selected Adley Rutschman #1 overall.

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Senior Softball Guy said:

The Twins won two Championships with Greg Gagne at short. We don't need him to be Bobby Witt.

The Giants won two with Brandon Crawford at SS. That would be a great outcome for Marek Houston.

Posted
57 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

Witt was the #2 pick in the draft. The Orioles selected Adley Rutschman #1 overall.

Thank you for correcting me, right you are, I must have confused him for somebody else.

Posted
10 minutes ago, Andy MacPhail said:

Thank you for correcting me, right you are, I must have confused him for somebody else.

Witt Jr. plays shortstop for the Kansas City Royals. It's possible that folks can overlook his talents. Think of Bobby Baseball as a Byron Buxton at his peak in full health, who plays the best shortstop in baseball and is healthy enough to average 154 games every year for his first five years.

Marek Houston is a promising player and it would possible to hope he wins a job in Spring Training if Houston has a strong offseason of work on strength, speed, and agility while continuing to hone his eye and swing. Nevertheless, we should not place the expectations of a Bobby Witt Jr. on Houston any more than expecting Walker Jenkins to be Ken Griffey Jr. Let these guys develop and play to their talents.

Posted
10 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

I presume Culpepper. Unless it turns out Culpepper at third and Lee at second is better. 

Lee works best at 3B. He doesn’t have the range for 2B. Also, KC & MH up the middle, no ground balls get to the OF! 

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Posted
8 hours ago, stringer bell said:

IIRC Houston missed only a few games due to injury this year. It would be great to have a prospect develop who is durable. Having a guy who is an asset defensively would be huge for the Twins, add in the speed he has demonstrated and all he has to be is average-ish as a hitter to be a truly valuable player. 

Houston was the second college shortstop in a row taken by the Twins and followed Culpepper's path exactly, splitting his first full season between high A and AA. One would expect him to be ready sometime in 2027 if his development continues.

Houston also basically copied the hitting production of Culpepper in doing so. Just with the OPS driven by a higher batting average instead of slugging percentage. 

Not every hitter in the lineup needs to be a power guy. I think this is one of the Falvey regimes biggest failures, trying to get more home runs from everybody. 

Posted

Bobby Witt is among the five fastest runners in MLB. I don’t think Houston has that kind of raw speed. I would hope he has plus speed and range, but don’t expect that he has 99th percentile sprint speed. 

Posted

Marek Houston looks like a highly probable starting MLB shortstop. Beyond that, there's plenty left to learn about him. Even if he hits league average, that's still going to be a 3 WAR player based on how his glove scouts. 

Comparisons to Bobby Witt, Jr. at this point are absurd. You're talking about arguably the best position player in baseball.

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Posted
1 hour ago, bean5302 said:

Marek Houston looks like a highly probable starting MLB shortstop. Beyond that, there's plenty left to learn about him. Even if he hits league average, that's still going to be a 3 WAR player based on how his glove scouts. 

Comparisons to Bobby Witt, Jr. at this point are absurd. You're talking about arguably the best position player in baseball.

Don’t be a “negative Nelly”. He’s obviously going to be one of the 50 best players who ever lived.

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