Game Thread: Twins v Tigers, 4/19/24 @ 7:10 CT

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Twins' pitcher 0-2 mistakes (2024)--10  Opponents (2024)--1

Waytogo Trevor!!

[Jocko87]

10 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

Anyone still think Julien is an "average" MLB 2B??

Maybe, but not because of that play.

[RpR]

Kirilloff and Larnach are making points with the coaches.

[$tryf4Life]

Based on what we are seeing with Martin, Larnach and Kiriloff it’s time for the vets to perform to expectations (offensively) or ride the bench. The farm may want to keep helping. (Carmargo being next) 
 

Buxton, Santana, Vasquez looking at you. 
 

 

[stringer bell]

11 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

Anyone still think Julien is an "average" MLB 2B??

95% on Vázquez.

[Jocko87]

2 minutes ago, RpR said:

How.

Announcer on MLV called it a poor throw; why did Julien double pump, wasting time.

Why on earth would he take an extra second to make a perfect throw that had a runner by 8 steps? Heavens.

It's the Correa effect on the throw.

[Shaitan]

Colt Keith sounds like a nascar name.

[$tryf4Life]

3 minutes ago, RickOShea said:

Hate to be negative, but Ryan gives the lead up, this inning.

Nah. Dominant 

[RickOShea]

Just now, $tryf4Life said:

Nah. Dominant 

I bet you pretyped that out.  You had a 50/50 shot. LOL.

[Riverbrian]

7 minutes ago, RpR said:

How.

Announcer on MLV called it a poor throw; why did Julien double pump, wasting time.

It was a poor throw but clearly a ball that Vasquez should have handled. 

Runner on 2nd... Julien made a nice effort to get to a ball to his left... sliding to keep the ball in the infield. The Runner tried to surprise him by going for home anyway. Julien threw home and the ball was online but landed well short of the plate which gave Vazquez a very long hop to field it and Vazquez didn't read it and the runner scored. If Vazquez makes the catch... he has time to lower his face mask... take a swig of hot chocolate and then make the tag. 

No it wasn't a great throw... but Vazquez knows he should have caught it. 

[$tryf4Life]

3 minutes ago, RickOShea said:

I bet you pretyped that out.  You had a 50/50 shot. LOL.

Hahaha. I had a 100% chance of being right cause I wasn’t going to post if he gave up a hit. 
 

I typed it when he got out number two. His stuff looks good so far. Especially that last sweeper. 

[RpR]

5 minutes ago, Jocko87 said:

Why on earth would he take an extra second to make a perfect throw that had a runner by 8 steps? Heavens.

It's the Correa effect on the throw.

Perfect, LOL, LOL Chest high bounce.

I watched it six time on MLB, far, far from perfect.

[UpstateNewYorker]

3 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

It was a poor throw but clearly a ball that Vasquez should have handled. 

Runner on 2nd... Julien made a nice effort to get to a ball to his left... sliding to keep the ball in the infield. The Runner tried to surprise him by going for home anyway. Julien threw home and the ball was online but landed well short of the plate which gave Vazquez a very long hop to field it and Vazquez didn't read it and the runner scored. If Vazquez makes the catch... he has time to lower his face mask... take a swig of hot chocolate and then make the tag. 

No it wasn't a great throw... but Vazquez knows he should have caught it. 

A thrown on a long hop is easier to handle than a ball in the air when a runner is bearing down on you, IMHO.

[USAFChief]

12 minutes ago, jkcarew said:

Especially after he got absolutely hosed on the Strike 1 call.

Did he?

The bottom and especially the top of the little strike zone box on TV are basically worthless. I'm 100% positive it doesn't show whether or not a pitch was high or low.

I'm pretty skeptical of the right and left edges, too. But I think they're probably closer. We also don't know where the little white ball that shows where the pitch supposedly was, actually was. 1 ft from the plate? Over the middle? 2 feet behind?

We'd all be better off if they just did away with it.

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7 minutes ago, Jocko87 said:

Why on earth would he take an extra second to make a perfect throw that had a runner by 8 steps? Heavens.

It's the Correa effect on the throw.

Julien had plenty of time. He took his time to make a good throw and threw a one-hopper that should have been caught with plenty of time for Vázquez to make a tag (for those of you that didn't see the play).

[sampleSizeOfOne]

7 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

It was a poor throw but clearly a ball that Vasquez should have handled. 

Runner on 2nd... Julien made a nice effort to get to a ball to his left... sliding to keep the ball in the infield. The Runner tried to surprise him by going for home anyway. Julien threw home and the ball was online but landed well short of the plate which gave Vazquez a very long hop to field it and Vazquez didn't read it and the runner scored. If Vazquez makes the catch... he has time to lower his face mask... take a swig of hot chocolate and then make the tag. 

No it wasn't a great throw... but Vazquez knows he should have caught it. 

I blame Swiss Miss for distracting Vazquez.

[RickOShea]

Damn, how many dead horses are laying around?

[RpR]

6 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

It was a poor throw but clearly a ball that Vasquez should have handled. 

Runner on 2nd... Julien made a nice effort to get to a ball to his left... sliding to keep the ball in the infield. The Runner tried to surprise him by going for home anyway. Julien threw home and the ball was online but landed well short of the plate which gave Vazquez a very long hop to field it and Vazquez didn't read it and the runner scored. If Vazquez makes the catch... he has time to lower his face mask... take a swig of hot chocolate and then make the tag. 

No it wasn't a great throw... but Vazquez knows he should have caught it. 

I will agree with that.

I wonder though if Vazquez had caught it and moved left to make the tag if he would have been called for blocking the plate any way.

The runner who could have slid between Vazquez legs actually stopped, maybe looking for a blocking the plate call.

The Twins have been screwed on those in the past.

[Riverbrian]

Looking at Buxton with the face mask in 36 degrees and I think of all the Winters that I have spent in Northwestern Minnesota and Northeastern North Dakota. 

I've seen -30 below air temperature. I've seen 40 mph winds in January. I've done maybe 55 winters in these conditions. I shovel, blow snow, I used to play outdoor hockey, tackle football with my friends in the snow every Saturday. I built snowmen, dug tunnels, I've jumped cars that won't start... I've driven in blizzard conditions where you have to hang your face out of the window just to see the centerline. 

I can honestly say... that the only time I have ever worn a face mask was while snowmobiling. 

Well... OK... there were couple of times during a bank robbery but other than that. 

36 ain't face mask weather.  

[mnfireman]

9 minutes ago, stringer bell said:

95% on Vázquez.

Nope, it was a terrible throw, short of HP and up the 3B line. And by rule, Vazquez HAS to give the runner a lane. 

[jkcarew]

2 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Did he?

The bottom and especially the top of the little strike zone box on TB are basically worthless. 

We'd all be better off if they just did away with it.

It looked a little low…and MLB tracker had it very low. I guess, who knows. Either way a pitch you define don’t want him going after early in the count…and then, he’s penalized for it. But, all’s well that ends well!

[RpR]

4 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Did he?

The bottom and especially the top of the little strike zone box on TV are basically worthless. I'm 100% positive it doesn't show whether or not a pitch was high or low.

I'm pretty skeptical of the right and left edges, too. But I think they're probably closer. We also don't know where the little white ball that shows where the pitch supposedly was, actually was. 1 ft from the plate? Over the middle? 2 feet behind?

We'd all be better off if they just did away with it.

Some the supposed pitch locations on the MLB box make it look like the batter almost getting hit, or the ball is two feet over the catchers head.

[stringer bell]

Strike three.........errr ball four.

[USAFChief]

2 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

Nope, it was a terrible throw, short of HP and up the 3B line. And by rule, Vazquez HAS to give the runner a lane. 

What??

[Riverbrian]

6 minutes ago, UpstateNewYorker said:

A thrown on a long hop is easier to handle than a ball in the air when a runner is bearing down on you, IMHO.

Agreed... I'd coach my infielders to aim lower because the hop is better than sailing it. 

That play was on Vazquez... however... it still wasn't a great throw. 

[mnfireman]

1 minute ago, RpR said:

Some the supposed pitch locations on the MLB box make it look like the batter almost getting hit, or the ball is two feet over the catchers head.

Which is why I double-check the ball/strike calls on Baseball Savant.

[ChermesZ]

Yeah, pair that with the first pitch strike to Santana and this umpire is heading towards angel territory.

[jkcarew]

What is this ‘stealing’ of a base??

Is that legal, Father Pat?

[Guest]

Larnach >>>>> Wallner!!!!!!

For now.

[Riverbrian]

7 minutes ago, sampleSizeOfOne said:

I blame Swiss Miss for distracting Vazquez.

Sure I see how you are. 

Going after the neutral ladies.