Over/under on front office (yrs remaining)

[DJL44]

On 6/10/2023 at 9:51 PM, wabene said:

This could be debatable but I scratched the interim Rob Anthony, but included one year answer Howard Fox and the do everything man Calvin Griffith. 6 GM's in 62 years. 

And the over under is 10.33 years. 

Yeah, I think they get 3 more years, especially if they win the pennant in this lousy division. That would take them to 10 seasons, consistent with how the Twins have always been.

I don't think they need that long to figure out this management team is mediocre. Odds are strong the next management team will also be mediocre.

[lecroy24fan]

48 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

The Pohlad family runs the entire operation. If attendance craters in August and September, they will notice.

The development of players is a key part of a front office task, but the philosophy of play is also important. There have been instances where we see a few differences this season in approach, yet the Twins still lack in fundamental areas. The strike outs have been discussed and occasionally we do see different two strike swings. The guys who have the salaries have been a great disappointment to me. Correa plays a great shortstop but might benefit from hitting in the five or six hole. Buxton is, sadly, a shadow in the last month plus. If Taylor didn't have the ninth spot in the order locked up solid, Buxton belongs there. Gallo is working hard to make contact with too many holes in the bucket. Can he become functional again? Only if the pitcher puts the ball in his one small zone. Polanco has been hurt too often to know what anyone can expect later this year much less next season. Finally, Kepler and Vasquez have lost their bats. That is six guys with real struggles holding them down, which makes wins tough to collect. Things can always change and we hope it does but the best lineup right now would likely include more inexperienced players: Julien, Solano, Kirilloff, Lewis, Wallner, Correa, Larnach, Jeffers, and Taylor/Castro. Something has gone wrong, for a fair period of time now, with the guys we wanted to lead the team. The performance is not there and the energy seems inconsistent too. What responsibility is on the shoulders of Falvey and Baldelli is unclear. The Pohlads put out more than $20 million more in salaries than the ceiling from the Twins Daily charts last winter. The product has produced good starting pitching and half of a bullpen with weak support most of the time from the offense. I'm guessing that the patience of the Pohlad family will be tested if August and September are a repeat of last year. It is pretty hard to fire all of the players. 

After the asinine comments Dave St. Peter made last year blaming the fans for not showing up in the last few months I think he needs to go if the attendance sags again. It was not a good product to watch and I can't blame anyone for not showing up those few months.

[NotAboutWinning]

The current FO will be here as long as the Pohlads are happy with their asset management. The Pohlads are not baseball lovers who own banks, they are bankers who own an MLB franchise. Their asset is the franchise, not the team. That asset has appreciated from 44 million in 1984 to 1.4 billion today. So we all get to watch asset management at its finest instead of major league baseball management at its finest. I think this is the case with many small market, Central Division (American and National) teams.

[ashbury]

4 hours ago, NotAboutWinning said:

The current FO will be here as long as the Pohlads are happy with their asset management.

Take me out to the asset management game,

Take me out with the CFO.

Buy me some ballparks and writeoffs with a smirk,

I don't care if I look like a jerk.

For it's root, root root for the profits,

If the Twins don't win, well, who cares?

For it's one, two, three bonuses for me.

At the asset management fair!

[wabene]

On 6/17/2023 at 12:42 PM, ashbury said:

Take me out to the asset management game,

Take me out with the CFO.

Buy me some ballparks and writeoffs with a smirk,

I don't care if I look like a jerk.

For it's root, root root for the profits,

If the Twins don't win, well, who cares?

For it's one, two, three bonuses for me.

At the asset management fair!

You are a Mad Man sir! 

[HokieRif]

Sums up where I’m at right now

 

[Riverbrian]

On 6/17/2023 at 12:42 PM, ashbury said:

Take me out to the asset management game,

Take me out with the CFO.

Buy me some ballparks and writeoffs with a smirk,

I don't care if I look like a jerk.

For it's root, root root for the profits,

If the Twins don't win, well, who cares?

For it's one, two, three bonuses for me.

At the asset management fair!

What song should I use for the melody. 

Bachman Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business didn't fit. 

[Vanimal46]

If the season continues to swirl down the drain like it has since May, we may be talking about a new FO this winter. 

[ashbury]

1 hour ago, Riverbrian said:

What song should I use for the melody. 

Bachman Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business didn't fit. 

It was just some free verse.  Clear your mind of expectations.

[Riverbrian]

3 minutes ago, ashbury said:

It was just some free verse.  Clear your mind of expectations.

If you golf... you should golf. 

If you sing... you should sing. 

I'm going to try other B.T.O. songs until I find one that fits. 

You Ain't Seen Nothin Yet. 

[Parfigliano]

On 6/10/2023 at 5:51 PM, Shobae said:

Joe Mauer was an all time catching talent (who has a legit chance at the HOF despite the injuries), you're not gonna see another player of his caliber on the twins for a long time just probabilistically speaking. I'd recon franchises have gone many decades without seeing a player of Mauer's skill, twins fans are lucky that he was the hometown hero who played here for his 10 seasons as a catcher. I guess Buxton would fit the mold but I think he's done as a superstar given that he needs play tons of DH to be able to stay healthy.
Don't think you need to produce a young super star so long as you produce 4-5 good (3-5 war) players. Would you rather be the angels who had mike trout and some expensive replacement level players or the pre-franco Rays who were competitive with a bunch of guys no casual fan could name?

Easy.  Rays.

[Parfigliano]

On 6/10/2023 at 9:05 PM, Tlaker said:

Owners need to sell as well! Pohlad family is the absolute root of this franchise never ever going to win again!!

Owners willing to spend spend spend doesnt necessarily mean wins wins wins. 

I follow the Mets.  New owner.  Bottomless checking account.  Same Met results.

[MMMordabito]

They need to keep a few more Lewis Thorpe's while exposing a few more Tyler Wells'.

It would also help to trade a few more Lamonte Wade's for some more Tyler Anderson's in order to give playing time to a few more Jake Cave's.

That should help speed up the exit plan.