Current Twins' Injuries

[chpettit19]

3 hours ago, KirbyDome89 said:

Yeah, most guys pitch into their 40s, win multiple Cy Young awards in their mid-late 30s, and are essentially a lock for 30+ starts (your favorite stat!) every year. Definitely not an outlier. 

He hasn't done it once in a ST game, and there's doubt he'll be ready by opening day, but I guess that's just like, my opinion huh. Yep, I think turning to a guy that was replacement level (if even that) days into ST because your 1B isn't likely to be playing games until mid March at the earliest means the Twins were probably invested pretty heavily in Kirilloff. Crazy right? 

Unless you think the Twins won't need that 6th man, they're relying on a healthy Ober in either situation, and if he can't go the result is the same. "Who have already debuted," that's a cute spin. You mean the 31 career innings combined between Varland and SWR? 

17 starts for Ober is essentially asking him to throw 90ish innings, and he's eclipsed that mark exactly one time in 5 professional seasons. That alone seems kinda crazy. Then SWR and Varland each need to contribute that many productive innings? Yeesh. 

We can have some more fun with numbers and use the median rather than the mean. 25 (Gray), 27 (Ryan), 24 (Mahle), 21 (Maeda - his average was 22 not 25), 21 (Lopez) for 118 starts; a whopping 8 more than last year with Paddack going down in his 5th start. 

I'm neutral on Varland and SWR. Worthy of a look isn't the same thing as being able to step in and consistently get ML hitters out. 

Fine, Kirilloff is the one that won't start the season with the Twins. Still an injury concern they aren't relying on. I've literally said 1 of those 2 won't start with the team and you continue to complain they're relying on them. They're not even going to be on the roster! This is my last response to you. Not being on the roster literally means they aren't relying on you. It's the very definition of not relying on you when they won't even let you freaking play.

What do you think "depth" looks like on other teams? Do you think the average team is sitting on guys better than Ober, SWR, and Varland as their 6, 7, and 8 starters in AAA? You realize that's not the situation, right?

Maeda has started 32, 25, 20, 26, and 21 games in his major league career (outside of 2020 where it was literally impossible to start 20 games). That is 124 starts in 5 years. That equals 24.8 starts per year. Sorry I took the liberty of rounding up to 25. Definitely not 22, though. And he didn't have those mid or low-20s starts because of injuries (outside of the 21 in '21), but because he moved to the pen for the stretch run and playoffs on a loaded team. His number would have been even higher if he were on a less loaded team. But don't let that context get in the way of your clearly data driven opinions.

[Squirrel]

@KirbyDome89 and @chpettit19-

Thank you for the debate! But, for the sake of the thread, I think you both have reached the end of your arguments. Let's move on now.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

 

[stringer bell]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/03/twins-notes-buxton-polanco-gordon-miranda-kirilloff-rotation.html

Updates on many of the Twins' injured players. The only less than positive report is on Kirilloff. I'm not sure of the process for him. I don't know when he could be put on the IL and I'm pretty sure he can't play in games while on the IL. It would appear that he might need to stay in Florida for a while after the team heads north and might also need some rehab time in St. Paul (I'm speculating). 

 

[Squirrel]

9 hours ago, stringer bell said:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/03/twins-notes-buxton-polanco-gordon-miranda-kirilloff-rotation.html

Updates on many of the Twins' injured players. The only less than positive report is on Kirilloff. I'm not sure of the process for him. I don't know when he could be put on the IL and I'm pretty sure he can't play in games while on the IL. It would appear that he might need to stay in Florida for a while after the team heads north and might also need some rehab time in St. Paul (I'm speculating). 

 

That sounds about right. So looks like either Larnach or Wallner head north with the team

[FlyingFinn]

Can you imagine the uproar we would have here if we traded for Montas (out at least half the season) and signed Rodon (reportedly starting the season on the IL). I was on the Rodon bandwagon, just not at the price the Yanks paid.

[Squirrel]

14 minutes ago, FlyingFinn said:

Can you imagine the uproar we would have here if we traded for Montas (out at least half the season) and signed Rodon (reportedly starting the season on the IL). I was on the Rodon bandwagon, just not at the price the Yanks paid.

Yeah, there’d be lots of screaming, and probably loudest from those who wanted them. All I can say is ‘whew, glad we passed.’ And yeah, I was on the Rodon bandwagon, but not so much Montas

[lecroy24fan]

Kiriloff hit a liner off Duran's leg during BP today.

 

Kepler left the game with hip tightness in the 4th inning.

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1 hour ago, lecroy24fan said:

Kiriloff hit a liner off Duran's leg during BP today.

 

Kepler left the game with hip tightness in the 4th inning.

Obviously, I'm hoping both Kepler and Duran are all right. Also encouraged to hear that Kirilloff was hitting against live pitching after playing in a (minor league) game for the first time.

[Mike Sixel]

I told y'all they weren't dealing Kepler and others when acquiring vets....this FO wants healthy depth. Lots of depth. 

[stringer bell]

With the announcement that Polanco and Kirilloff will not be available on Opening Day, there still are several players who are limited or not playing, with a week until the opener in Kansas City.

1) Miranda has only played first base, due to a sore shoulder.

2) Duran took a comebacker off his leg. It was diagnosed as a contusion.

3) Kepler had a tight hip. He originally was in last night's starting lineup, but was scratched.

4) Ronnie Henriquez has tightness just above the elbow and hasn't thrown in a month.

5) Josh Winder has shoulder impingement and hasn't participated in a game. He has been throwing live batting practice.

It is nearly certain that Henriquez will go on the Injured List, perhaps even the 60-day IL. Winder may join him or he might be optioned to St. Paul. Gilberto Celestino will be placed on one of the injured lists as well. 

I believe Kepler and Duran will be playing in a game before this week is over. 

Miranda is the tricky one. If he is limited to first base, with Buxton serving only as a DH, it doesn't leave a clear place for Trevor Larnach to play. It would also mean that someone regarded as a bench player against right handed pitching (Castro, Farmer, Solano) would be playing third base. 

[Squirrel]

1 hour ago, stringer bell said:

2) Duran took a comebacker off his leg. It was diagnosed as a contusion

Duran is fine. He will be pitching in the next game. I’m sure more than a few players have bumps and bruises.

 

[stringer bell]

Twins website updated both the active roster and injury lists, with updates of  Polanco, Kirilloff and Winder. Reading between the lines a bit I think Winder is in line to swap with Sands sometime in April if Sands goes long in a game or is ineffective. Kirilloff will have to show that he can drive the ball before he's activated and I'll bet on a rehab assignment. Polanco apparently has pain from a bone bruise that is slowing him. 

https://www.mlb.com/twins/news/twins-injuries-and-roster-moves

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A mixed bag of injuries as we approach the conclusion of the second week of play. The Twins have been hit hard in one area—left handed hitting corner-types. Kirilloff has been on IL since the start of the season, Kepler and Gallo added recently. Also on IL since the start of the season is Jorge Polanco, making it four presumed starters on the injured list. Polanco and Kirilloff have both started rehab assignments in Florida. 
 

On the pitching side, no one has been added since Opening Day, with Josh Winder also rehabbing for the club at Fort Myers. Ronnie Henriquez remains on IL and not yet ready for rehab. 
 

Paddack and Lewis remain on the 60-day IL with Lewis looking to start his rehab next month and Paddack shooting for a late-season return. 
 

i bumped this thread to ask the question, is it fair to think the Twins will not be further hampered by injuries than they are right now? Or put another way, they’ve used all of their position players on the 40-man roster, will it come to the point where they will need to dig deeper into their minor league depth?

Max Kepler could be activated this weekend, Gallo has only a week to serve on his IL time and, as mentioned, both Polanco and Kirilloff are already on rehab assignment. 
 

I’m hoping the Twins next transaction is activating a player off IL and optioning someone to St. Paul. We shall see. 

[Twodogs]

Farmer had surgery after getting hit in the face and Buck left the game after a collision on the basepaths.  Hopefully not serious stuff.

[Twodogs]

On 4/12/2023 at 2:18 AM, stringer bell said:

A mixed bag of injuries as we approach the conclusion of the second week of play. The Twins have been hit hard in one area—left handed hitting corner-types. Kirilloff has been on IL since the start of the season, Kepler and Gallo added recently. Also on IL since the start of the season is Jorge Polanco, making it four presumed starters on the injured list. Polanco and Kirilloff have both started rehab assignments in Florida. 
 

On the pitching side, no one has been added since Opening Day, with Josh Winder also rehabbing for the club at Fort Myers. Ronnie Henriquez remains on IL and not yet ready for rehab. 
 

Paddack and Lewis remain on the 60-day IL with Lewis looking to start his rehab next month and Paddack shooting for a late-season return. 
 

i bumped this thread to ask the question, is it fair to think the Twins will not be further hampered by injuries than they are right now? Or put another way, they’ve used all of their position players on the 40-man roster, will it come to the point where they will need to dig deeper into their minor league depth?

Max Kepler could be activated this weekend, Gallo has only a week to serve on his IL time and, as mentioned, both Polanco and Kirilloff are already on rehab assignment. 
 

I’m hoping the Twins next transaction is activating a player off IL and optioning someone to St. Paul. We shall see. 

Saints need to get some of their guys back?  😀

[cheeseheadgophfan]

On 3/9/2023 at 1:20 PM, Craig Arko said:

Tony Oliva and Rod Carew had very serious knee injuries that might have benefited from recent surgical improvements. 

I bet i heard my Dad say say over 100 x's that Oliva would've been as good as  Mays, Mantle etc....but for those "damn knees".... LOL

[stringer bell]

I'm going to bump this back up for discussion. Many recent pieces of news and transactions.

1) Nick Gordon probably lost for a long while with a fracture of the shin bone. Kyle Garlick recalled to replace Gordon.

2) Jorge Polanco placed on the IL for a strained hamstring. Edourd Julien recalled to replace Polanco.

3) Jorge Alcala was recently placed on 15-day IL. News today that he has a stress fracture of his radial bone.

4) Byron Buxton left today's game with right leg tightness.

5) The Twins' website indicates that Max Kepler may not be ready to be activated when his ten days on IL will be up. 

6) Royce Lewis is on his rehab assignment, but so far hasn't played on consecutive days. In his last game, he had three hits, including two homers. Lewis is eligible to come off the IL on or about June 1. The Twins will have to make room for Lewis on the 40-man roster (Alcala or Gordon to 60-day?).

[Squirrel]

Some Twitter updates:

 

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[glunn]

1 hour ago, stringer bell said:

 

4) Byron Buxton left today's game with right leg tightness.

 

I was at the game and wondered why he did not come out to hit in a key situation. I would note that earlier in the game it looked like he hit first base awkwardly,  

[laloesch]

add Correa to the list with Plantar fasciitis.  

[chpettit19]

1 hour ago, laloesch said:

add Correa to the list with Plantar fasciitis.  

No thank you.

[Mike Sixel]

3 hours ago, laloesch said:

add Correa to the list with Plantar fasciitis.  

Yikes. And might explain the start

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

27 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Yikes. And might explain the start

Not likely.

Have you had it? It’s a hard thing to play through. if Correa has been masking the pain and playing on it, then I don’t know what to say 

To add: hoping Correa takes care and recovers and we see him better in a few weeks. He might be best to DH at that time as well. By that time I would hope to see Lewis at short and Buxton moved off of DH. This could be a silver lining.

Edited May 24, 2023 by Hosken Bombo Disco

[Squirrel]

28 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

Not likely.

Have you had it? It’s a hard thing to play through. if Correa has been masking the pain and playing on it, then I don’t know what to say 

To add: hoping Correa takes care and recovers and we see him better in a few weeks. He might be best to DH at that time as well. By that time I would hope to see Lewis at short and Buxton moved off of DH. This could be a silver lining.

I’ve had it and played through it, until I couldn’t any more. Probably wasn’t a bad case but I did eventually have to stop playing tennis and rest

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

37 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

I’ve had it and played through it, until I couldn’t any more. Probably wasn’t a bad case but I did eventually have to stop playing tennis and rest

Not likely but not impossible I guess; we can’t really know for sure. I would hope Correa wasn’t playing on it and making it worse. I’ve given my non-clinical opinion and I stand by it. 🙂

[Squirrel]

7 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

Not likely but not impossible I guess; we can’t really know for sure. I would hope Correa wasn’t playing on it and making it worse. I’ve given my non-clinical opinion and I stand by it. 🙂

Have you had it? I have, as I said, so your not likely comment is most definitely not clinical as I know for certain you aren’t my doctor 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

9 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

Have you had it? I have, as I said, so your not likely comment is most definitely not clinical as I know for certain you aren’t my doctor 

Well, then. So much for trying to lighten the mood around this place. 🙂 

(yes i have had it)