Twins 4, Brewers 1: Miranda Walks Off the Brewers!

[dex8425]

15 hours ago, Linus said:

Didn’t see the game. Did we finally play a clean game?

Good defense and no miscues there that I saw. Celestino could not get a bunt down (2 attempts, then struck out) but defense was good, nice plays from Correa and Celestino. Good at bats from everybody except Buxton who was 0-5 with four strikeouts. He swung at everything. 

[BH67]

This eight-cylinder roster runs continually on four and gets the job done enough times for me to remain hopeful, but one never knows which four work in a given game.  The rise of Polanco, Kirilloff and Miranda in the last few weeks is the closest thing the Twins have to a durable positive trend.

[Thebigalguy]

Buxton: 0-5, 4Ks. Mendoza line in sight. Will he be at the All-Star game with a sub .200 average?

[PDX Twin]

17 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Odds were VERY HIGH the Twins score once they had two on and nobody out. So, he didn't add much to the odds of winning. 

But then, the algorithms didn't figure in that the Twins are exceedingly proficient at stranding multiple runners who get on with no outs!

[ashbury]

2 hours ago, jorgenswest said:

It was a really good take on the first pitch forcing Hader more into the zone with two on base.

Didn't mean to dismiss Miranda's accomplishment. He himself said in his interview that the pitcher hung one.  The slo-mo was a thing of beauty to watch.  I don't know Hader's arsenal to understand what he was trying to accomplish with a more successful version of the same pitch, but that one surely wasn't how the plan was drawn up.

[ashbury]

4 hours ago, adjacent said:

So, if I understood correctly, Miranda's WPA would have been 1 - the Twins probability to win tha game at that moment (+/- other contributions that Miranda had earlier in the game). Thanks

That's the idea. The homer was exciting, but three runs didn't make the win count more.

Said another way, the value of something may be unrelated to the probability of it happening.  And the value of the same event may differ based on the situation.

There is some value in getting the job done then and there, rather than say a walk or a scratch single that leaves it to the next guy, and the guy after that if he fails, which WPA probably captures only in part, but that's getting pretty esoteric.

[Alex Schieferdecker]

I think Rocco has decided that he needs to squeeze a couple extra outs from the Duran/Jax/Thielbar group, because there's nobody else he can trust.

[darwin22]

2 hours ago, Alex Schieferdecker said:

I think Rocco has decided that he needs to squeeze a couple extra outs from the Duran/Jax/Thielbar group, because there's nobody else he can trust.

I tend to agree with you, but if its just "now" Rocco is figuring this out----then his acumen for managing his bullpen is even more under scrutiny.

[rwilfong86]

20 hours ago, darwin22 said:

Having seen Miranda in 4 games last year when he was with Wichita------before his promotion to AAA, it sure is satisfying to see him make some adjustments from his rough early star to the season.  My "eye test" seems to indicate he's becoming more relaxed/confident at the plate.  Defensively, he's not there yet, but he seems much more comfortable at 3B.

Absolutely.