Who should we buy?

[Brandon]

We keep talking about being sellers but the Twins are on a 13 - 5 run. If we gain another game or two by the deadline we would be 5-6 games back. Who do you think we should target if the front office decides to make a run this year instead of selling?

[luckylager]

So you're saying there's a chance? 

 

[Vanimal46]

JT Realmuto.

[Mike Sixel]

No rentals.

 

Look, it is great to be optimistic as a fan.....but 7 of those wins came against potentially historically bad teams.....Baltimore might win 50 games this year, but I doubt it.

 

So, if they deal for anyone, they better be here for 2019, and better yet 2020 or 21.

 

Those players will be expensive, but if you want to get better, you need to spend assets to do so.

[Brandon]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/07/twins-trade-rumors-ryan-pressly.html

 

In this mlbtraderumors article it mentions the Twins may turn course and buy rather then sell if they can gain another game or two by the deadline.

[Brandon]

So you're saying there's a chance?

Something like 3720 to 1. But if the Millinium Falcon can successfully navigate an asteroid field then we could compete for the division.

[Mike Sixel]

 

Something like 3720 to 1. But if the Millinium Falcon can successfully navigate an asteroid field then we could compete for the division.

 

Probably the same level of realism there, actually......if you change division to WS.

[Vanimal46]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/07/twins-trade-rumors-ryan-pressly.html

 

In this mlbtraderumors article it mentions the Twins may turn course and buy rather then sell if they can gain another game or two by the deadline.

2nd year in a row Falvine is flip flopping on whether to buy or sell. I'm not sure if it's a good thing to be influenced this much on a micro level.

 

As Mike Sixel types over and over again, pick a path and stick to it.

[lukeduke1980]

As much as I enjoyed last night....a closer.  How about Rasiel Iglesias for Stephen Gonsales

[wsnydes]

 

2nd year in a row Falvine is flip flopping on whether to buy or sell. I'm not sure if it's a good thing to be influenced this much on a micro level.

As Mike Sixel types over and over again, pick a path and stick to it.

The only thing worse than doing nothing is indecision.  That's not something that I want in a front office. 

[Vanimal46]

The only thing worse than doing nothing is indecision. That's not something that I want in a front office.

I hope they have a more strategic approach short and long term than what we do as fans... Look at the whole season, not just one week in late July to make a decision.

[wsnydes]

 

I hope they have a more strategic approach short and long term than what we do as fans... Look at the whole season, not just one week in late July to make a decision.

Correct.  Even if it's something minor at the deadline, that's something.  All I ask is to see a direction one way or another.  

 

Doing nothing with where they're at constitutes indecision in my view.  They have plenty of areas that can be improved upon and they have some assets that can be sold.  Either direction can be justified right now.

[SF Twins Fan]

Would Jose Martinez be a bad player to trade for? He doesn't fit in the NL because he's not a very good first basemen but he is a good hitter and easily could be the Twins DH the next few seasons. He's 30 but isn't a free agent until after 2022. He's also a right handed bat, which I feel like the Twins definitely could use. He would also be a good platoon with Mauer.

 

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/teams/depth-chart/STL/st-louis-cardinals

 

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/players/playerpage/1208943/jose-martinez

[Mike Sixel]

 

Would Jose Martinez be a bad player to trade for? He doesn't fit in the NL because he's not a very good first basemen but he is a good hitter and easily could be the Twins DH the next few seasons. He's 30 but isn't a free agent until after 2022. He's also a right handed bat, which I feel like the Twins definitely could use.

 

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/teams/depth-chart/STL/st-louis-cardinals

 

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/players/playerpage/1208943/jose-martinez

 

Interesting idea.....and I don't know. Maybe? How bad is he at 3rd/1b?

[ewen21]

What about Jeff Cirillo or Phil Nevin?

[SF Twins Fan]

 

Interesting idea.....and I don't know. Maybe? How bad is he at 3rd/1b?

 

 

Here are his numbers from baseball reference.  It would be nice to have some position flexibility but it would also be really nice to just have one player be a DH for 75% or more of the season as well.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/martijo08.shtml

 

Edit - He grades out pretty bad at first.

[Han Joelo]

Some folks call it indecision; I call it zeroing in on your objective, waiting until that last possible moment to be sure.

 

 

[Mike Sixel]

I'm more interested in a DH that can play a position or two. I just saw on FGs that there are very few full time (even half time) DHs in the league at this point.

 

You'd have to be a truly great hitter to be a full time DH, given bullpen size across the league, imo.

 

so, I am less intrigued, I guess.....

[Loosey]

I still think you sell even if you make a mini-run.  I mentioned it in another post, trading away Dozier will not change the % chance of catching Cleveland by that much if you consider his whole season.  I think you can replace Dozier's production with Sano coming back and have Esco play 2nd/3rd rest of year.

 

If Buxton can come back at some point and play similar to 2nd half last year they may still have chance, gain some prospects and still be in a position next year to compete.  

 

 

[Han Joelo]

Well crepes.  Or crepes, but I meant kripes, I guess.  How do you post gif's again?  I thought I bookmarked the instructions last time someone (Ashbury) helped with this, but alas.

[Danchat]

I’d rather buy (trade prospects for mlb talent) over the offseason. I’d rather not try to chase the small chance of winning the division just to get the chance to be pulverized by the Astros or Yankees.

[nicksaviking]

 

Do you think St. Louis would take Lance Lynn back for Martinez, maybe sweetened with Morrison, Duke or a a AA non-pitcher, non top 20 guy?  Probably not, but a girl can dream....

 

Maybe if the Twins take Greg Holland and eat all of his salary.

 

I wouldn't mind getting Holland somehow regardless. He's got name brand recognition and plays a position that allows for both short term memory loss and optimistic projections. He's got the ingredients to be one of the few players who could regain value to trade in August if he's able to pull his act together for 30 days. 

 

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

2nd year in a row Falvine is flip flopping on whether to buy or sell. I'm not sure if it's a good thing to be influenced this much on a micro level.

As Mike Sixel types over and over again, pick a path and stick to it.

 

I'm not sure they've flip flopped... at least this year. They bought last year and were rewarded by pretty much dropping out of the race and they sold what they bought and picked up a better prospect along with another decent one for their closer. I won't fault them there. 

 

This year, they haven't really stated what they are doing. I don't have too much problem waiting, as I'm guessing they aren't getting much in the way of good offers, and let's be fair that this team is at best a fringe contender, much like last year's team, so unless they are being wowed (and I doubt it at this point), they would be wise to hold off.

[Dr. Beanpole]

No reason that you can't do a little of both. Sell Dozier and Lynn. Field offers on Gibson and Rodney. Plan to QO Escobar after the year and maybe sign him for a few years in a utility role if he'll take that. By all accounts, Sano looks like he's likely to be back up sometime in August, he can play 3B which can move Escobar to 2B or SS. Play to win the games while trading away guys that aren't likely to return next year. 

 

Call it a half-sell if you will, but I also don't find value in squeaking into the playoffs to be demolished by Houston in 3 games. If this team does turn it around in August again, the only trade-deadline guy who figures to be a significant factor in that would be Dozier, and I personally think you have to get something for him while you can. 

[zenser]

 

Maybe if the Twins take Greg Holland and eat all of his salary.

 

I wouldn't mind getting Holland somehow regardless. He's got name brand recognition and plays a position that allows for both short term memory loss and optimistic projections. He's got the ingredients to be one of the few players who could regain value to trade in August if he's able to pull his act together for 30 days. 

Holland was just DFAd so wait until he passes through waivers and get him for the league minimum.

[Loosey]

 

No reason that you can't do a little of both. Sell Dozier and Lynn. Field offers on Gibson and Rodney. Plan to QO Escobar after the year and maybe sign him for a few years in a utility role if he'll take that. By all accounts, Sano looks like he's likely to be back up sometime in August, he can play 3B which can move Escobar to 2B or SS. Play to win the games while trading away guys that aren't likely to return next year. 

 

Call it a half-sell if you will, but I also don't find value in squeaking into the playoffs to be demolished by Houston in 3 games. If this team does turn it around in August again, the only trade-deadline guy who figures to be a significant factor in that would be Dozier, and I personally think you have to get something for him while you can. 

Agree.  Only thing I disagree on right now is Gibson.  I think they have to keep him as a piece for the future.  I think he is a perfect mid-rotation guy to go along with younger High-end starters they have in Berrios and Romero.  I'm confident Gibson will be a very steady starter for a while now that he has figured out what type of pitcher he is. Sign him through is year 32/33 season and you have a pretty stable pitching core.

[Mike Sixel]

Agree. Only thing I disagree on right now is Gibson. I think they have to keep him as a piece for the future. I think he is a perfect mid-rotation guy to go along with younger High-end starters they have in Berrios and Romero. I'm confident Gibson will be a very steady starter for a while now that he has figured out what type of pitcher he is. Sign him through is year 32/33 season and you have a pretty stable pitching core.

He's 31 at the end of this year...he's already signed through his age 32 season.

[Dr. Beanpole]

 

Agree.  Only thing I disagree on right now is Gibson.  I think they have to keep him as a piece for the future.  I think he is a perfect mid-rotation guy to go along with younger High-end starters they have in Berrios and Romero.  I'm confident Gibson will be a very steady starter for a while now that he has figured out what type of pitcher he is. Sign him through is year 32/33 season and you have a pretty stable pitching core.

I like how he looks but eventually I think he'll regress back to the mean. If someone's left without a dance partner at the last minute I think someone panics and overpays drastically for Gibson, and I'd rather watch him roll back down the hill on a different team. I hope I'm wrong, but that's how I see it.

[Loosey]

 

He's 31 at the end of this year...he's already signed through his age 32 season.

Perfect!  

 

I'd still see if he wants to to extend two years beyond.  Buy out last arb year and give him a fair contract for 33 and 34.

[Brandon]

What about Texas C Chiniros to replace Wilson if not Reamulto.