Monitor: Manager of the Year and Fired?

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

The Boss has had six #1 albums this century including The Rising which everyone has heard of, you're just listening to the wrong music!

Talk trash all you want about Molitor, but so help me, if I hear another bad word about him I will amend the Comment Policy to say negative expressions toward Bruce Springsteen are expressly prohibited and may result in a perma-ban from this site.

Nobody ****s with the Boss on Nick's watch.

[Reider]

The Twins have 85 reasons to keep Paul Molitor on as the Manager.

[Mike Sixel]

 

The Boss has had six #1 albums this century including The Rising which everyone has heard of, you're just listening to the wrong music!

Talk trash all you want about Molitor, but so help me, if I hear another bad word about him I will amend the Comment Policy to say negative expressions toward Bruce Springsteen are expressly prohibited and may result in a perma-ban from this site.

 

The Boss has had six #1 albums this century including The Rising which everyone has heard of, you're just listening to the wrong music!

Talk trash all you want about Molitor, but so help me, if I hear another bad word about him I will amend the Comment Policy to say negative expressions toward Bruce Springsteen are expressly prohibited and may result in a perma-ban from this site.

 

heh, I did an entire series of posts in a game thread last year about how bad most of his songs were.....I literally listened to them on Spotify during the game, and commented. So much mediocrity....

[Mike Sixel]

 

To some here bunts and sacrifices are a fireable offense, never mind that over the last 4 years Cleveland and Texas, the organizations that the FO come from,  are in the AL top 5 for bunt hits and sacrifices. Their FO must have some metrics that fly in the face of fangraphs.

 

If only it was "fangraphs" and not years of study and data from multiple places......sigh. 

[USAFChief]

heh, I did an entire series of posts in a game thread last year about how bad most of his songs were.....I literally listened to them on Spotify during the game, and commented. So much mediocrity....

There are no doubt literally dozens of people in the world who share this opinion.

[Mike Sixel]

 

There are no doubt literally dozens of people in the world who share this opinion.

 

I admit it might be my most misunderstood belief....

[old nurse]

 

If only it was "fangraphs" and not years of study and data from multiple places......sigh. 

Sigh. Ignore the point sigh

[Mike Sixel]

 

Sigh. Ignore the point sigh

 

well, your point was that a FO has data that is different than YEARS of study by multiple people. This isn't an area where a team has private data that doesn't publicly exist, either. So if your point wasn't about Fangraphs, what kind of data can you even imagine a team might have that doesn't exist in the public that would show all the studies to be wrong?

[jimmer]

well, your point was that a FO has data that is different than YEARS of study by multiple people. This isn't an area where a team has private data that doesn't publicly exist, either. So if your point wasn't about Fangraphs, what kind of data can you even imagine a team might have that doesn't exist in the public that would show all the studies to be wrong?

maybe the point was teams can still win even when they do dumb things (though I can't remember too many people complaining about players bunting for hits. The complaints are about just openly giving away outs)

 

Or maybe the point was just that Fangraphs sucks no matter how many different sources and websites say the same thing on a subject after doing their own studies for years ;-)

[bighat]

I would like to see a new manager in place. Molitor's an old crank who is riding the players' coattails. 

 

'Member when he got all cranky about Romine playing all 9 positions in one game? And he said something like "that circus stuff doesn't play well with me". This is the same guy who sent Chris Giminez out to the mound a record SIX times this year! What a flip-flopper!

 

Molitor is a walking box of Triscuits. I sure hope he finds success with the team the rest of the year, but next year I'd like to see someone else running the bench. 

[old nurse]

 

well, your point was that a FO has data that is different than YEARS of study by multiple people. This isn't an area where a team has private data that doesn't publicly exist, either. So if your point wasn't about Fangraphs, what kind of data can you even imagine a team might have that doesn't exist in the public that would show all the studies to be wrong?

The Indians and Rangers would not have the same data? They only started looking at it last week?  Same data, different conclusions. The baseball front offices are just filled with ignorant people?  Generic data vs situation specific differences in the data? Something in the data driven front  offices tells them  not to eschew the bunt

[Mike Sixel]

 

The Indians and Rangers would not have the same data? They only started looking at it last week?  Same data, different conclusions. The baseball front offices are just filled with ignorant people?  Generic data vs situation specific differences in the data? Something in the data driven front  offices tells them  not to eschew the bunt

 

Well, no place did I say that the FO were filled with ignorant people. No place. Not one time. They could believe the sacrifice in the 2nd inning is a good idea, be wrong, and not be ignorant people. So, I have no idea what you are saying there.

 

The other 27 teams are wrong? Is that your contention?

 

And, don't the Twins do it to an even more extreme amount? Maybe they do it too much, even if it should be done more by other teams?

[mikelink45]

 

Absolutely no offense intended towards you personally, but I believe there are likely numerous candidates out there who may not availed themselves to you. It may not be your job to find them, but that's what Falvine are here to do.

No offense taken, the enjoyable part of this site is the ability to exchange ideas and views.

[old nurse]

 

Well, no place did I say that the FO were filled with ignorant people. No place. Not one time. They could believe the sacrifice in the 2nd inning is a good idea, be wrong, and not be ignorant people. So, I have no idea what you are saying there.

 

The other 27 teams are wrong? Is that your contention?

 

And, don't the Twins do it to an even more extreme amount? Maybe they do it too much, even if it should be done more by other teams?

The Indians and Rangers are in the top 5 for both bunts and sacrifices in the AL. They must different metrics that fly in the face of fangraphs. Your sighing comment would lead me to believe  that you have a negative viewpoint with the capitalization to very strongly hint at stupidity

The extreme for SH are the Indians and Rangers, the extreme for bunts is the Rangers. The extreme for sac flies is the Indians. Somewhere, somehow an out for a run in a data driven organization makes sense.  This is not saying anything about the other 27 clubs , especially since I mentioned on the AL.