maxisagod Verified Member Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) Question - The term "senior sign" is used a lot. What does that mean? I understand that the person is a senior in college (I assume), but what else is implied? A few different things. They can't play college ball anymore so they’re option after this year are limited, so their bonuses are usually only a few thousand dollars, not hundreds of thousands of dollars. If drafted in the top ten rounds, the team did this to save money to spend elsewhere in the draft. If drafted after the top ten rounds, the team is just looking to fill out their rookie league teams, and some scout suggested their name. They tend to only last a few years in the minors, getting replaced by top prospects or other senior signs. This isn’t always the case, after all, Brian Dozier was a senior sign. Dozier stock has always been... deflated because of it. He was always consider “old” for a prospect compared to the guys who sign out of high school. So even when he was a top 10 prospect, he was never the top prospect. He also will reach free agency at an older age, reducing his potential earnings. And though I can’t prove it, you'd think a 40 home run hitting, 2nd baseman All star would get more trade interest. His age I believe plays a factor in that as well. Edited June 17, 2017 by maxisagod
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 It would be interesting to get a peak at how the Twins top prospects would be after the draft. I would be most curious where Lewis and Enlow would be. Romero looks like he is turning the corner now and Gonsalves is back strong, but I would love to know how Lewis is viewed against those two.
clutterheart Verified Member Posted June 18, 2017 Posted June 18, 2017 I keep seeing that Enslow has agreed to around 2 MM. but I can't find that officially. Is that just articles regurgitating the same source?
Twins33 Verified Member Posted June 18, 2017 Posted June 18, 2017 I keep seeing that Enslow has agreed to around 2 MM. but I can't find that officially. Is that just articles regurgitating the same source?It isn't official yet. Not sure he's even had a physical yet. That's just the amount reporters are tweeting out.
joey emerson Provisional Member Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 Very excited to see that bechtold and de la torre. They are my two favorite picks from this draft. Lots of potential and could be the steals of the draft jsteve96 1
Jeremy Nygaard Twins Daily Contributor Posted June 19, 2017 Author Posted June 19, 2017 Very excited to see that bechtold and de la torre. They are my two favorite picks from this draft. Lots of potential and could be the steals of the draft I'm curious how reps are split between Lewis and De La Torre. I'm hoping Lewis plays more than every other day, but I'd like to see them both get a ton of reps at shortstop.
jsteve96 Provisional Member Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 While I agree that relationships are important I am not sure how much that applies to Rooker in this situation. Three Fourths of the guys he is going to "bond" with down there aren't likely to make it to his level. They also aren't going to change his swing in Elizabethton either. I think the value to going there is low. Given his age, playing against tougher competition as soon as possible is far more important. I think Kieth Law mentioned there are already a handful of guys his age in MLB already. His draft stock was lowered because of his age. I think the team that takes him needs to be as aggressive as possible to get him from point A to B. Yep two weeks in E-town won't hurt him but again I am not seeing an incredible benefit to sending him there either.He played 1B in college, I think the Etown move is just to get a dozen or less games in at RF then move up to CR
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) He played 1B in college, I think the Etown move is just to get a dozen or less games in at RF then move up to CR CR is hardly aggressive either, and why can't he play OF at CR to start? Edited June 19, 2017 by Mike Sixel
jsteve96 Provisional Member Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 CR is hardly aggressive either, and why can't he play OF at CR to start?They don't want to move Davis to left or to High A yet maybe?
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 They don't want to move Davis to left or to High A yet maybe? That's certainly possible. There are always reasons for individual decisions, but eventually it is a pattern.
Brandon Verified Member Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 Jeremy, when you update this page you shoul move it to that days articles. This one is a ways down now.
clutterheart Verified Member Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 They don't want to move Davis to left or to High A yet maybe? Goddness I hope not. Jaylin Davis looks to me like Adam Walker with less power and worse SO numbers. He shouldn't be blocking to anyone.
jsteve96 Provisional Member Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 Goddness I hope not. Jaylin Davis looks to me like Adam Walker with less power and worse SO numbers. He shouldn't be blocking to anyone. looks like ABW, does't mean coaching and maturity can't help fix the K problem. his K% is down to 25% the last 33 games with a .939 OPS.. still decent potential.Get Rookers feet wet for a week or 2 and see If Davis to LF or to A+ is better option, that's what I would do
jsteve96 Provisional Member Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 Goddness I hope not. Jaylin Davis looks to me like Adam Walker with less power and worse SO numbers. He shouldn't be blocking to anyone. J Davis not blocking him, Rooker going straight to FM after E-town.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 J Davis not blocking him, Rooker going straight to FM after E-town. I thought that tweet was updated to say to CR after starting out?
jsteve96 Provisional Member Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 I thought that tweet was updated to say to CR after starting out?nah, going to the miracle after 2 weeks in E-town. Mike Sixel 1
joey emerson Provisional Member Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 I'm curious how reps are split between Lewis and De La Torre. I'm hoping Lewis plays more than every other day, but I'd like to see them both get a ton of reps at shortstop. with the 3 infielders taken this draft early does that mean javier skipping right to elizabethton and Miranda going there too?
Pitz Verified Member Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 Javier was assigned to the Etown roster at the beginning of June (prior to the draft)
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted June 20, 2017 Posted June 20, 2017 nah, going to the miracle after 2 weeks in E-town.Where are you seeing that?
goulik Verified Member Posted June 20, 2017 Posted June 20, 2017 Wow. The signing tracker shows that we have 19 agreed already with 5 from the top ten rounds unsigned. If we sign those five, which normally you expect to get all top 10 rounds signed, that will be 24 plus there are two Seniors unsigned, that would make 26...we might know our whole list of draft signings already...
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted June 20, 2017 Posted June 20, 2017 If a draftee has agreed, is it just a formality for 'agreed' to become 'signed?'
Bob Sacamento Verified Member Posted June 20, 2017 Posted June 20, 2017 Where are you seeing that?MiLB.com has it and it's also on his MiLB.com page that he was reassigned on June 2nd Baseball America did have the preliminary GCL rosters but that was recently taken down after the draft as it will change after the recent draft picks. The worst part of the year is about to come up as several players will be cut from the lower levels to make room for new blood.
AZTwin Verified Member Posted June 20, 2017 Posted June 20, 2017 MiLB.com has it and it's also on his MiLB.com page that he was reassigned on June 2nd Baseball America did have the preliminary GCL rosters but that was recently taken down after the draft as it will change after the recent draft picks. The worst part of the year is about to come up as several players will be cut from the lower levels to make room for new blood.Bob have you seen Javier down there? How's he looking? The skeptic in me says the Lewis pick indicates that the front office isn't as big on Javier than the fans at this point
Bob Sacamento Verified Member Posted June 20, 2017 Posted June 20, 2017 Bob have you seen Javier down there? How's he looking? The skeptic in me says the Lewis pick indicates that the front office isn't as big on Javier than the fans at this pointYes, I've seen Javier play every weekend as the regular starting SS in EXST. Defensively, he's got a strong arm, covers good ground, his footwork needs work though and he doesn't have the softest hands. The biggest concern is that he is going to fill out and grow over the next 5 years and he might end up on the "large SS" spectrum or move to 3B or corner OF. Offensively, his swing needs work but the bat speed he possesses and how quickly the ball comes off his bat is pretty remarkable. Here's video of him this spring: Wander hitting, running the bases and fielding on 6/3/17https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ74YS9IuZ0 Wander hitting on 5/29/17https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPOX1j61VxI Wander hitting on 5/20/17https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM4NFu8WBP0 Mike Sixel, DocBauer and nytwinsfan 3
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted June 20, 2017 Posted June 20, 2017 MiLB.com has it and it's also on his MiLB.com page that he was reassigned on June 2nd Baseball America did have the preliminary GCL rosters but that was recently taken down after the draft as it will change after the recent draft picks. The worst part of the year is about to come up as several players will be cut from the lower levels to make room for new blood.We were discussing Rooker, not Javier.And, I was asking him where he's seeing that Rooker is going to Ft Myers after 2 weeks in ETown.
Jeremy Nygaard Twins Daily Contributor Posted June 20, 2017 Author Posted June 20, 2017 If a draftee has agreed, is it just a formality for 'agreed' to become 'signed?' Yes. USAFChief and Squirrel 2
drjim Provisional Member Posted June 20, 2017 Posted June 20, 2017 We were discussing Rooker, not Javier.And, I was asking him where he's seeing that Rooker is going to Ft Myers after 2 weeks in ETown.FWIW, Doogie keeps saying two weeks then off to Ft. Myers. Makes sense, Cedar Rapids is a waste of his time. DocBauer and Mike Sixel 2
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 FWIW, Doogie keeps saying two weeks then off to Ft. Myers. Makes sense, Cedar Rapids is a waste of his time.Ok thanks.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Yes.Thanks for all your draft reports and updates this season!
twinsfanstreif Provisional Member Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 MLB.com and MLB daily dish both have Sammons, Contreras, and Faucher all signed for $10,000 each on their tracker. Sounds about right and if true will in total save us $429,500, not too shabby markos and Dman 2
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