Extension candidates

[Willihammer]

Its extension season. The Twins are pot committed already to Sano (top international signee of the last decade, no backup at third base for forseeable fu ture) and Buxton (#2 draft choice and best outfield defender in the org, fastest baserunner). What value is there to waiting? If they bust the Twins will have to tear down and rebuild again anyways. The cost of doing that is minimized by stricter international and rule 4 draft bonus pool rules.

Plus, by committing to the "new core" maybe the culture change Falvine want so badly will happen organically, and more quickly. By delaying that commitment the Twins will remain Mauer's and Hughesy's team.

 

I would also extend Pressly and May (for a huge discount) who will both be arb 1 guys next winter.

[drjim]

I would lock up Buxton if he was willing, but I would wait on Sano.

 

Wouldn't touch those pitchers. There's a reason May would be a discount, not a sure thing he ever pitches again.

 

I would still consider Dozier if it can be limited to 3 additional years.

[Oldgoat_MN]

I would wait to extend Buxton and/or Sano until they had a productive year that made it look like they absolutely belonged in MLB. It will cost more at that point, but they aren't going to sign now for peanuts anyway. Might as well wait until you have a better idea of the players they are going to be.

 

There is no pitcher on the Twins roster that I would offer an extension to at this time.

 

If you were to extend Dozier it should include a lump sum 'moving fee' if he is traded, rather than a no-trade clause. Three years sounds pretty safe, though his agent may not think it's a good idea.

[Thrylos]

I'd wait another season for both Buxton and Sano and then extend them for 5 seasons each, if they perform, so they are locked until their late 20s.  I would not extend any of the pitchers they have...

[Willihammer]

Wouldn't touch those pitchers. There's a reason May would be a discount, not a sure thing he ever pitches again.

Not even Pressly?

[theBOMisthebomb]

Yes to Dozier and Buxton, maybe yes to Sano.  I would wait on Pressly and May.  

[Mike Sixel]

Not one pitcher, no. I would roll the dice on both Sano and Buxton, but it won't be happening. Both had down years, they'll be betting on themselves.

[drjim]

Not even Pressly?

I'm very high on Pressly but don't think much is gained by locking up a middle reliever.

[jorgenswest]

Extending my Dozier makes it more difficult to trade him. Right now any team can take on that contract.

[Brandon Warne]

Hot take: I'd sign Jorge Polanco to a really cheap deal if he was willing. Something a little lower than Tim Anderson's deal. 

[amjgt]

Not one pitcher, no. I would roll the dice on both Sano and Buxton, but it won't be happening. Both had down years, they'll be betting on themselves.

What dice are you rolling. If Sano and Buxton don't pan out we are screwed whether they are signed long term or not.

 

Rolling the dice is NOT signing them to an extension (not that I'm advocating that)

[Otto von Ballpark]

Not opposed, but what terms are we talking here?

 

I'll note that Falvey and Levine's former clubs just inked extensions with Jose Ramirez and Rougned Odor respectively and I'm not a fan of either one.

[Willihammer]

Not opposed, but what terms are we talking here?

 

I'll note that Falvey and Levine's former clubs just inked extensions with Jose Ramirez and Rougned Odor respectively and I'm not a fan of either one.

Immediate raises in 2017-2018, maybe one FA year guaranteed and 2+ option years, discounted for risk. Something like 8/45 for Buxton and Sano with 20m of that being the final two option years.

 

I'd offer Pressly the same deal the Astros and Will Harris agreed to: 2yr/5m guaranteed with a $6.5m 2019 option that includes an incentive. Maybe try to add a 2020 option also.

[Vanimal46]

I would extend Sano and Buxton both with no hesitation. Ideally having options for their first 2-3 years of FA.

 

No idea what the terms would be, but I'm guessing it would be more than what Tim Anderson got from the White Sox (6/25 + 2 option years that could make it $50 MM total)

 

Jorge Polanco is a sneaky extension candidate that Brandon Warne brought up and I'd think about doing that too.

 

No pitcher in this organization is on my radar for an extension yet.

[Bill Brown69]

I posted a year ago that I was not and will not be concerned by the "lack" of spending the Twins have exhibited in the last couple years AS LONG AS THEY USE IT LATER.

 

Roster wise you have Rosario, Buxton, Kepler, Sano and Polanco with A maybe for Dozier.

Pitching wise There aren't many here yet but Berrios, Mejia, Chargois, with a May and Pressly and a few others in the mix.

 

I want 4 of them to spend 10 big league years in a Twins uniform. I for one am tired of the assumption that everyone leaves at free agency and am sick of trying to "project" the next group of prospects to be great. I don't know which ones but there are people in the front office who are paid big $$ to figure it out and make a decision. Does Sano turn into Ryan Howard with his weight? Does Buxton kill himself with his aggressive play? Does Dozier turn back into a pumpkin? Is Rosario actually on the cusp of being a solid player for 10 years? Will Kepler ever turn his tools into an Ellis Burks type and have a 75 WAR career? Can Polonco hold a position or is he destined for super utility? Every position player has question marks just like every pitcher but get at least 2 of them signed forever. And guess what, it is my money paying the salaries and I don't care what it costs, just pick the right ones and sign them.

 

Don't tell me how much the Mauer and Puckett contracts hamstrung the team. How much has the decreased interest over the last 4 years hurt? Fans want a few familiar names to go root for so give it to us!!!!!!!!!!! 

[DocBauer]

I think I'd extend Pressly but wait for everyone else until I see a full productive season from them.

 

I know it's not a popular idea, but I still wonder about extending Dozier with an eventual move to 1B. In a year, or so, you could have an infield of Sano, Gordon, Polanco and Dozier.

 

That infield, with this young OF, Castro and Garver at catcher, I'd be pretty excited about that everyday lineup.

[Oldgoat_MN]

 

Not even Pressly?

Well, I said above that I wouldn't offer an extension to any pitchers.

Ryan Pressly has been pretty exceptional. I just never really think of extensions for middle inning relievers. Interesting thought, though...

[Oldgoat_MN]

 

I think I'd extend Pressly but wait for everyone else until I see a full productive season from them.

I know it's not a popular idea, but I still wonder about extending Dozier with an eventual move to 1B. In a year, or so, you could have an infield of Sano, Gordon, Polanco and Dozier.

That infield, with this young OF, Castro and Garver at catcher, I'd be pretty excited about that everyday lineup.

I like that lineup, too.

Not sure how I feel about replacing the 6' 5" Mauer at first base with the 5' 11" Dozier, though.

[goulik]

I would wait to extend Buxton and/or Sano until they had a productive year that made it look like they absolutely belonged in MLB. It will cost more at that point, but they aren't going to sign now for peanuts anyway. Might as well wait until you have a better idea of the players they are going to be.

 

There is no pitcher on the Twins roster that I would offer an extension to at this time.

 

If you were to extend Dozier it should include a lump sum 'moving fee' if he is traded, rather than a no-trade clause. Three years sounds pretty safe, though his agent may not think it's a good idea.

If you can get an extension on Sano as a 25 homer guy now why wait until he's a 30-35 home run guy.Bet a little on him now vs a lot later. If he takes that bet we are likelier to win that bet then he is ATM. It's all in the details of how much it would take tool extend him

 

 

Definitely wait on Buxton

[GP830]

I know it's not a popular idea, but I still wonder about extending Dozier with an eventual move to 1B. In a year, or so, you could have an infield of Sano, Gordon, Polanco and Dozier.

 

That infield, with this young OF, Castro and Garver at catcher, I'd be pretty excited about that everyday lineup.

I wonder if there'd be any benefit at that point of shifting Dozier to 3B and Sano to 1B. Seems like both guys would be more suited in those roles.

[DocBauer]

I like that lineup, too.

Not sure how I feel about replacing the 6' 5" Mauer at first base with the 5' 11" Dozier, though.

I know Dozier wouldn't have the classic size at 1B you would expect, but he's athletic and has good hands and obviously vast experience on the right side of the infield. His bat plays at the position for sure.

[DocBauer]

I wonder if there'd be any benefit at that point of shifting Dozier to 3B and Sano to 1B. Seems like both guys would be more suited in those roles.

I have thought about that as well and it's worth considering. But Sano has the better arm and is younger. Dozier is not remotely old, but if anyone would begin to slow down it would be him. The move to 1B puts everyone in their best overall spots and allows for Dozier to lose a step and still be effective defensively.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Immediate raises in 2017-2018, maybe one FA year guaranteed and 2+ option years, discounted for risk. Something like 8/45 for Buxton and Sano with 20m of that being the final two option years.

Thanks. Seems light considering both were elite prospects pretty recently. Tim Anderson just got slightly better than that, and he is a year behind Sano and Buxton in service time.

 

In any case, I definitely support having the conversation, and now would be the time to pursue it, when they are both still 2 seasons away from arbitration.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

I would lock up Buxton and I think he would be open to that conversation. I would wait on Mark Reyno--- I mean, Sano. I love the guy, don't mind his defense, but with those whiffs, it could still go downhill for him.

[Otto von Ballpark]

I'd offer Pressly the same deal the Astros and Will Harris agreed to: 2yr/5m guaranteed with a $6.5m 2019 option that includes an incentive. Maybe try to add a 2020 option also.

Harris is older, but I think he is definitively better than Pressly, no? I don't necessarily see this as a priority.

[drock2190]

I wouldn't offer an extension to Sano or Buxton unless it was super cheap. 

 

Both of them need to get their strikeout percentage under 30% or they still stand a decent chance to be a bust.

[laloesch]

 

Its extension season. The Twins are pot committed already to Sano (top international signee of the last decade, no backup at third base for forseeable fu ture) and Buxton (#2 draft choice and best outfield defender in the org, fastest baserunner). What value is there to waiting? If they bust the Twins will have to tear down and rebuild again anyways. The cost of doing that is minimized by stricter international and rule 4 draft bonus pool rules.
Plus, by committing to the "new core" maybe the culture change Falvine want so badly will happen organically, and more quickly. By delaying that commitment the Twins will remain Mauer's and Hughesy's team.

I would also extend Pressly and May (for a huge discount) who will both be arb 1 guys next winter.

 

I'd wait another year and see where everything is heading into 2018.  

 

The team has a number of free agents in 2018 and 2019.  Perkins and Santana (has 2019 option) are free agents in 2018.  Mauer, Hughes and Dozier are free agents in 2019. If the club has another disastrous season in 2017 and things aren't looking good heading into 2018 then they will have the flexibility to be able to completely reboot and dump 65% of the payroll and go from there.