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All I ask is that the choice is a once-in-a-decade clear no-brainer, he's willing to go under slot and he isn't represented by Scott Boras.

 

Not a deal breaker, but I'd also prefer that he's able to catch and play SS and pitch with either arm.

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All I ask is that the choice is a once-in-a-decade clear no-brainer, he's willing to go under slot and he isn't represented by Scott Boras.

 

Not a deal breaker, but I'd also prefer that he's able to catch and play SS and pitch with either arm.

 

Yeah, but let's not lose sight of what really matters - is he a good clubhouse guy?

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All I ask is that the choice is a once-in-a-decade clear no-brainer, he's willing to go under slot and he isn't represented by Scott Boras.

 

Not a deal breaker, but I'd also prefer that he's able to catch and play SS and pitch with either arm.

Yeah, but let's not lose sight of what really matters, does he battle his tail off?

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Greene sounds like the real deal.  I do like what Lewis brings to the table, I guess I can hope he would fall.  Melendez also is a very interesting guy they should look at with the 35.  My .02 from this list. 

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Faedo?  That name smacks of a legacy pick! :)

 

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Then come back and get this legacy pick at 35 perhaps. Mark's kid is Dalton and is in the top 50. Both Gators too!

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All I ask is that the choice is a once-in-a-decade clear no-brainer, he's willing to go under slot and he isn't represented by Scott Boras.

 

Not a deal breaker, but I'd also prefer that he's able to catch and play SS and pitch with either arm.

 

Hopefully, enough of us are on Santa's good list for this one.

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As of now, my pick would be Hunter Greene, and I don't think this is close. I see a lot of people wanting to get a college pitcher that would be quick to majors. I get that train of thought, it certainly is less risky and would likely give a guy a chance to pitch for the Twins in 2018 or 2019. However, I think that train of thought is also a bit flawed as those guys would have been top picks out of high school and not in college if they had the immense potential that a guy like Greene has.

 

Tired of middle rotation log jams and no aces? Then you have to take a chance and trust Falvey and Levine to be able to develop a potential future ace like Greene straight out of high school. Who knows, you get a guy in the system at 18, maybe he is in the rotation by age 21 if he is developed right. Plus, I don't think we should be focusing on who the quickest guy to the majors will be. We are not exactly approaching our world series window anytime soon. That would likely be in 4 to 6 years assuming Falvey and Levine are a success on almost all level.s

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Santiago isn't worth a comp pick, unless the Twins pick up some salary iMO

A mid 70 draft pick returns a 10 war player  about 5% of the time.  Another 20% of the time you get a player the equivalent of Santiago.   A team needing to fill in the back of their rotation, a late comp  pick is cheap for that

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A mid 70 draft pick returns a 10 war player  about 5% of the time.  Another 20% of the time you get a player the equivalent of Santiago.   A team needing to fill in the back of their rotation, a late comp  pick is cheap for that

Santiago is a borderline non-tender for a reason. Nearly every team is willing to gamble in the draft rather than give up a draft pick for a sort of expensive one year rental.

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Jeren Kendall is the consensus top college hitter. If they take a college hitter, it would be him. I've heard Brett Gardner/Jacoby Ellsbury comps, for whatever that is worth. Needs to strike out less. Will be fun to watch him this year too.

 

Florida plays at Vanderbilt April 13-15 2017. That would be a fun road trip. #2, #4, #5 and #19 on the mlb pipeline list.

 

I'm definitely not a fan of Kendall. To put it bluntly, his college numbers are downright mediocre. He averaged a 2.65 K/BB ratio over his first two years and has an OPS of .619 in the Cape over 102 ABs.

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I'm definitely not a fan of Kendall. To put it bluntly, his college numbers are downright mediocre. He averaged a 2.65 K/BB ratio over his first two years and has an OPS of .619 in the Cape over 102 ABs.

 

Not saying I like some of his numbers either. Just saying, the college hitting/position crop is such that he is thought of as the best college position player. Take that for what you will.

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As of now, my pick would be Hunter Greene, and I don't think this is close. I see a lot of people wanting to get a college pitcher that would be quick to majors. I get that train of thought, it certainly is less risky and would likely give a guy a chance to pitch for the Twins in 2018 or 2019. However, I think that train of thought is also a bit flawed as those guys would have been top picks out of high school and not in college if they had the immense potential that a guy like Greene has.

 

Tired of middle rotation log jams and no aces? Then you have to take a chance and trust Falvey and Levine to be able to develop a potential future ace like Greene straight out of high school. Who knows, you get a guy in the system at 18, maybe he is in the rotation by age 21 if he is developed right. Plus, I don't think we should be focusing on who the quickest guy to the majors will be. We are not exactly approaching our world series window anytime soon. That would likely be in 4 to 6 years assuming Falvey and Levine are a success on almost all level.s

 

Not every player is physically mature at 18 out of high school. Plenty of major league ace pitchers are college guys. Verlander, Kluber, Scherzer, Price. All college arms. High school pitchers are the absolute riskiest draft commodity. There's a reason no high school RHP has every been selected 1-1. The stakes are so high with the first pick- it absolutely cannot be blown.

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Not saying I like some of his numbers either. Just saying, the college hitting/position crop is such that he is thought of as the best college position player. Take that for what you will.

 

Which is why I said as of right now, college arm is what I'd prefer at 1-1. Then save up some cash for some harder to sign high schoolers for the comp round and 2-1. 

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Which is why I said as of right now, college arm is what I'd prefer at 1-1. Then save up some cash for some harder to sign high schoolers for the comp round and 2-1. 

 

Are you leaning Faedo (if the draft were today) or Wright? I can go both ways, but I'm kind of leaning Wright more than Faedo, at least as of today.

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Are you leaning Faedo (if the draft were today) or Wright? I can go both ways, but I'm kind of leaning Wright more than Faedo, at least as of today.

 

Faedo- Hard to knock a 6.33 K/BB ratio in the best conference in college baseball. I'd actually go with Bukauskas over Wright. I'm not afraid of short pitchers and I'm not big on Wright right now. Vandy pitchers seem to break frequently. 

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I do hope that the Twins FO tries to trade for some of the extra comp picks but I'm not sure if anyone is actually willing to trade theirs.  All of those teams seem to be in rebuild mode as well.

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Faedo- Hard to knock a 6.33 K/BB ratio in the best conference in college baseball. I'd actually go with Bukauskas over Wright. I'm not afraid of short pitchers and I'm not big on Wright right now. Vandy pitchers seem to break frequently. 

 

I forget who did the study a couple years ago, but the results showed that right-handers under 6'2" where typically the best bargains in the draft. It seemed the true risk associated with their height was not anywhere close to the perceived risk. The study was based on MLB results. I remember that read from prior to the Tyler Jay/Carson Fulmer draft.

 

Of course at 1-1 the Twins probably shouldn't be looking for bargains.

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I forget who did the study a couple years ago, but the results showed that right-handers under 6'2" where typically the best bargains in the draft. It seemed the true risk associated with their height was not anywhere close to the perceived risk. The study was based on MLB results. I remember that read from prior to the Tyler Jay/Carson Fulmer draft.

 

Of course at 1-1 the Twins probably shouldn't be looking for bargains.

Well if the new management can save the Pohlads a few bucks ...

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I forget who did the study a couple years ago, but the results showed that right-handers under 6'2" where typically the best bargains in the draft. It seemed the true risk associated with their height was not anywhere close to the perceived risk. The study was based on MLB results. I remember that read from the Tyler Jay/Carson Fulmer draft.

 

Of course at 1-1 the Twins probably shouldn't be looking for bargains.

 

The study showed that MLB teams under value them, and if you pick them in the late first to second, you are likely getting "more value" than a normal pick. It was on Fangrpahs, I want to say like 2 years ago or so. They have value of a late first, but usually get picked in the third or later rounds...., or something like that. 

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The study showed that MLB teams under value them, and if you pick them in the late first to second, you are likely getting "more value" than a normal pick. It was on Fangrpahs, I want to say like 2 years ago or so. They have value of a late first, but usually get picked in the third or later rounds...., or something like that. 

 

Right, obviously the strategy really should have no impact with pick 1-1. Unless someone like Bukauskas is clearly the best player but there are hesitations about his height.

 

Not that I think he's the best player or even best pitcher.

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